Files 743-752 Discussion Thread

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How will Shinichi/Conan return to Japan? (stolen from baka1412)

Illegal ways (Document Forgery, "back-routes", bribing the officers, hijacking the plane, etc)
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Using his connection with the FBI's to sneak him out of the country.
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Agasa miraculously creates a Teleportation machine.
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Haibara send him another batch of antidote(s) (post/directly)
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Haibara entrusted back-up medicine to Jodie / Yukiko / FBI / she somehow got trustful friend out there (the mysterious lady on last file)
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Extra Terrestrial creatures help.
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He never returned to Japan again...
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He never returned to Conan again...
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He swim all the way across to Japan by sea..
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"Home Alone" reference; as a conan, he's tagging any unsuspecting adults during the last minutes before the plane take off, pretending to be their child.
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Asking for Japanese embassy help, hoping to get deported back to Japan..
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He'd get help from that pro tennis player eventually (for solving the case).. I don't know how she would pull some string though...
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Unexplainable Time Skip, the case finished, and we're suddenly back to Beika City the next day without explanation..
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Dus wrote: To Misztina: If you're not Misztina and still read the spoiler then you're clearly suicidal.
Spoiler:
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Dus wrote: Did anyone else think "Since when is Conan an Italian?" when he yelled "I'm-a Holmes apprentice? :P
Really? XD I was busy with other things.
Dus wrote: Anyway, I also thought the teddy bear was mighty suspicious, but I'm not so sure anymore. :-\
Why not? It's so obvious, it screams I'M A BOMB DAMMIT! What made you doubt?
Because it's so obvious. It might just be a red herring.
Dus wrote: I really wanna know what Ran said in the Panel where Minerva was wearing glasses. It almost made me suspect she knows Conan's identity.
According to Sushiknight, she said: "Be careful, protect Minverva even if you can't catch the culprit. I still have things that I need to tell Minerva."

Which is suspiciuos in that matter that Ran  trusts a kid in protecting others.
So it doesn't really explain why she's wearing glasses. Either it's a hint that she wants to ask Minerva about her suspicion that Conan is Shinichi or it's just a red herring. Or maybe she has already told her about her doubts. That would explain why she asked Conan if he can really do anything when he's so small.
Are we 100% sure this sub-arc will end with chapter 750? Cause there are quite a few unanswered questions. Or maybe they'll just carry over into another arc in London...
1) Don't know why reading this could make me suicide, but...ehh...okay. Maybe I'm a suicide. ^_^

2) Question:
Spoiler:
Why saying "I'm a Holmes' apprentice!" is kind of Italian? I'm just curious.
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Spoiler: Teddy bear
That teddy bear is suspicious, but I don't know why Hades would use only ONE bomb. Who he wants to kill really? Minerva, her family, all people in stadium???
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Spoiler: Minerva's glasses
About Minerva's glasses - I bet it should have been SUNglasses, but a person who coloured this, just forgot about the shades. It's the same with mother Glass. In file 748 she wore sunglasses too, but now she has normal glasses. Why? She's blind! It's just a mistake.
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Spoiler: Ran
I don't think that Ran has any suspicions right now. Probably she wants to say to Minerva that she was wrong about "Love=0 thing", and then she will tell her about "the chase scene", Shinichi's words etc...
6) No, no spoiler. ^_^ File 750 won't be the last one in this case. It's so slow, that it will be at least 2-3 files to end the case, and then a file or two to some lovey-dovey, return to Japan etc.
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Conan 48:69 wrote: maybe Hades will attack Conan in file 750?? Conan will somehow defeat him, but Hades won't tell him where's the bomb and the file 751 will be about searching for the bomb.
really interesting as a need of around one-two years of waiting for the anime starting of the London-arc....I'm waiting to see Takayama Minami's "in great pinch" acting as it is quite long ever since ep.564.....
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To Redpoppy:
Spoiler:
Somehow, when Italians speak English, they tend to say "a" in such places in a sentence were they shouldn't according to correct English. Like, my favourite Capt'n Bertorellei says: "Colonel, you a my friend and I keep a you waiting! But you will forgive a me, no?"

I know it is from a comedy, but it sums up perfectly. :D
To Dus:
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I'd rather think that the teddy bear is one of the places were the bombs are hidden, IF there are any other bombs.
Since he wants to revenge his mother's death and Hades' target is Minerva (she is the hated-person), it seems right that he only wants to kill her family, along perhaps some innocent people, which doesn't matter to him.
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Misztina wrote: To Redpoppy:
Spoiler:
Somehow, when Italians speak English, they tend to say "a" in such places in a sentence were they shouldn't according to correct English. Like, my favourite Capt'n Bertorellei says: "Colonel, you a my friend and I keep a you waiting! But you will forgive a me, no?"

I know it is from a comedy, but it sums up perfectly. :D
Thanks for the explanation, Misztina-chan~! ^_^ You're right, it's not correct to use "a" that much. But...well...it's Engrish. Gosho has made a lot more mistakes, like "incampetence", "Holme's" etc. O_O Scary...
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Yeah. What is more weird that not even his collegues or editors corrected it. Maybe when it gets published it'll be okay. Or is this intentionaly? @_@

Anyways, kids, today's lesson is: Do not learn English from Detective Conan.
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Misztina wrote: Yeah. What is more weird that not even his collegues or editors corrected it. Maybe when it gets published it'll be okay. Or is this intentionaly? @_@

Anyways, kids, today's lesson is: Do not learn English from Detective Conan.
Amen.  And similarly, don't learn japanese from american cartoons and limit any learning in anime to phrases explained or extremely common and short.  If you're going to learn a language, learn it from native speakers directly or whatever lessons you can get your hands on.
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English is the easiest language ever thou (i half-learned it on n64 games :p ), unless you really want to master all the grammar. But since most native speakers don't, i guess it's fine lol

Japanese on the other hand... Meh. I wanted to look for some class but i have a feeling i'll commit suicide shortly after that. And then Conan will come to my house and think "Jisatsu ja nai!"

About Engrish, i find it less irritating than americans putting apostrophes (or apostrophe's) everywhere :D
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Mr_Useless wrote:
About Engrish, i find it less irritating than americans putting apostrophes (or apostrophe's) everywhere :D
Seconded. Engrish isn't all that irritating to me; it's not their first language, after all. But if English is your first language, you have no excuse.
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mangaluva wrote:
Mr_Useless wrote:
About Engrish, i find it less irritating than americans putting apostrophes (or apostrophe's) everywhere :D
Seconded. Engrish isn't all that irritating to me; it's not their first language, after all. But if English is your first language, you have no excuse.
One reason why Jodie-Sensei's actress should be replaced. There is no excuse for an American-born woman to speak Engrish.  :P
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soratothamax wrote:
mangaluva wrote:
Mr_Useless wrote:
About Engrish, i find it less irritating than americans putting apostrophes (or apostrophe's) everywhere :D
Seconded. Engrish isn't all that irritating to me; it's not their first language, after all. But if English is your first language, you have no excuse.
One reason why Jodie-Sensei's actress should be replaced. There is no excuse for an American-born woman to speak Engrish.  :P
Can't help it. I think there aren't that many seiyuus who are very fluent at english. (I was very surprised when I heard Heiji though :o)
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Omg, people, let's imagine now London Case in anime! XD XD XD I will die from laughing! I bet all voice actors who will play new characters will use Engrish. O_O
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RedPoppy wrote: Omg, people, let's imagine now London Case in anime! XD XD XD I will die from laughing! I bet all voice actors who will play new characters will use Engrish. O_O
I actually think they will turn it all to japanese aside from some sentences here and there. I mean, do you really believe the japanese audience is ready to watch an anime in subs? heh anime with subtitles, what a ridiculous idea.........................................................................wait.......
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RedPoppy wrote: Omg, people, let's imagine now London Case in anime! XD XD XD I will die from laughing! I bet all voice actors who will play new characters will use Engrish. O_O
Well, I hope they do the same thing that they did with the Osaka 3K case.  Those three Americans were played by actual Americans.  If it is as big a case as it seems then I would hope that they would do a better job of it.  I hope.  They probably won't.
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Kor wrote:
RedPoppy wrote: Omg, people, let's imagine now London Case in anime! XD XD XD I will die from laughing! I bet all voice actors who will play new characters will use Engrish. O_O
I actually think they will turn it all to japanese aside from some sentences here and there. I mean, do you really believe the japanese audience is ready to watch an anime in subs? heh anime with subtitles, what a ridiculous idea.........................................................................wait.......

Now that is called funny ;D
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Sakina wrote:
RedPoppy wrote: Omg, people, let's imagine now London Case in anime! XD XD XD I will die from laughing! I bet all voice actors who will play new characters will use Engrish. O_O
Well, I hope they do the same thing that they did with the Osaka 3K case.  Those three Americans were played by actual Americans.  If it is as big a case as it seems then I would hope that they would do a better job of it.  I hope.  They probably won't.
Well actually for this case,

1.  I'd hope they'd use ENGLISH English speakers, or that the Americans chosen could do a good job with the English accent
2.  Some of those ENGLISH English speakers would have to know Japanese (Apollo, Minerva at the very least)
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