Callid wrote:
mangaluva wrote:
Question: who or where was his dad? Why is it when there are these mass shooting outbreaks, all people ever talk about are the shooters' mothers? Correlation does not imply causation and all, I'm just wondering why everything seems to be focused on their mothers.
The parents were divorced, and the father was living away, as a CEO of some minor company, IIRC. He sent alimony to the mother and the perpetrator (who lived at his mother's place).
He also refused to comment on the event initially.
Trying to count out the numbers of school shootings in the US (including gender and other stuff where given) and so far I'm up to 121 incidents of it...

I find it really weird how many of the early ones (before 1940s mainly) happened because of some poor woman refusing some guy's advances and getting her brains blown out for it though

. Most of the teacher-teacher shootings happened because of reasons that sound like they came out of DC

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Also, the number of shootings where a female was the one doing it... 6. Yeah, mostly males doing it

. Doesn't seem to be much of a link about the mothers though. Shooters have been in families which are together, divorced, whatever, from what I've noticed so far. The main things they've got in common is they tend to be male and in a few cases (though less than you may expect) they were the quiet, introverted types. Also, in terms of students doing school shootings the most common ages are around 14 to 17. Probably the most predictable thing about it all is that fact that the majority of shooters commit suicide not long after their crimes. I would say that the type of personality changes *how* the shootings are committed rather than whether they are so much too, though I guess personality might still be a factor in how probable it is that a person commits a gun crime. Doubt it's a good idea to kill off all males because they did most of them though

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Like it's already been mentioned though, correlation doesn't imply causation so~
Hmm... there are a few key times where the problem was as much the mental health support as the gun control tbh.
This one and
this part on the Sandy Hook shootings have some pretty big points on that.
And this is just going by Wikipedia alone (well, the lists of the shootings themselves. I've looked up some articles about some incidents from other sources but not that much for the reasons in the next sentence

). I'm trying to avoid using lists from other websites 'cause they'll almost certainly be biased, but looking at things, I think I might actually be missing some

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Of course, given the size of the place compared to, say, some countries in Europe it's not surprising the US is beating them in terms of school shootings because it's bigger, but even if you do make it proportional I'd have to say that this is serious overkill on the US side

This would be even better if you compared it to countries like Japan and various European ones. I think that looking more into how Switzerland works would be pretty interesting myself (it has a pretty high gun ownership level because of its army-type-thing but its restrictions are also very strict so it does much better than countries like the USA).
...and I think I'll take a break from this a bit. It's kinda depressing D:.