[768-770] Jeet Kune Do: Sera's Identity Speculation Thread

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Abs. and Kaoko wants to know who the Jeet Kune Do character is <3

Poll runs till May 25th, 2052, 6:24 pm

Eisuke
7
7%
Shuuichi Akai's little brother
3
3%
FBI member
0
No votes
CIA member
0
No votes
BO member
1
1%
Haibara's future hubby <3
6
6%
Bourbon
4
4%
Shuuichi Akai
4
4%
Vermouth
2
2%
Kaitou KID
11
11%
Just a new character
25
24%
The murderer
2
2%
Shinichi's new rival
22
21%
Anokata
5
5%
Can't decide
11
11%
 
Total votes: 103
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Maybe Sera is murdered by Natsuki, it would be a great comeback
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Silver1412 wrote: I'll say she knows about Conan. I've got no idea what's her role, but let me say one thing. We finally got a female detective! I'm not letting her go!
We HAD a female detective before. Only problem was that it turned out that she was the murderer in the end. XD
So i doubt this will happen to Sera.
But i still hope that she´s with the BO to finally move the damm BO plot, also i found out that there´s a wine called *La Sera* so who knows?
Maybe her codename IS Sera? She introduced herself with only Sera after all unlike usually with both surname and first name. Hint? Hint? ;)
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Abs. wrote: My theory, keeping with the Sera Masumi/Okiya Subaru/Moroboshi Dai/Akai line of thought:

Sera was in America. She heard that her brother (Akai), who was in the FBI, had died (there may have even been a funeral). However, she doesn't believe it. She researches some things, and finds out that this super-smart 7-year-old was somehow involved. She thinks that perhaps the 7-year-old is working together with her still-alive brother to hide the fact that he's still alive, and that the 7-year-old's deductions are actually coming from her brother. But when she hears that it's coming from this Kudou Shinichi guy, she figures out that something else is up, and then she notices Conan running off. Then she realizes that there's something seriously wrong with this 7-year-old. XD
This sounds very convincing. It also takes into account all the facts. Of course, who else but Sera herself could make such a conclusion?

*cough* Anyway, referring to the theory that Sera may yet still be a guy...I really don't think so. A few points why not:

A) Why bother to use an entire case to specifically fool people into the 'right' conclusion only to end in the 'wrong' conclusion...to later show the 'right' conclusion? It's not beyond Gosho, but that just seems like a waste of time, IMO.

B) Even if Gosho were to do something like that, he wouldn't have done it this way, I don't think. His characters always have a straightforward plan for what they're going to do. If Sera's purpose was to pose as a girl when really being a guy, why bother with a tomboyish look in the first place that was so easily 'mistaken'? Especially with first impressions in the area they're meant to fool, spies wouldn't make such a mistake.

C) Though it doesn't seem to be mentioned that much in Conan from what I've seen, there's a very big obstacle Sera would've had to avoid had she been a he posing as a she: physical exams. Like I said, it doesn't seem too prominent in DC, but I've read many a manga where the Japanese physical exam was a huge problem. Heck, there was even one where the situation was oddly similar to what Sera's would've been where a guy posing as a girl was freaking out immensely about the exams. I'm not sure if all Japanese schools have them, but I'm thinking the one in Conan does as an early chapter had a brief image of Conan weighing himself with other kids lined up behind him (see early library case just after Heiji's appearance). It's not to say that was an exam or that it'd extend to the high school, but it sure looked like one. How would Sera get out of that and further...why would 'he' take the chance by transferring to a school in the first place uncover as a girl? That's just too winded and complicated. Even 'to get close to Ran to get close to Conan' doesn't work as a reason to pose as a girl and go through all that trouble.


AAAnyway, I'm excited to see more Sera in the future. To end it off: the next file is already out? O.O I saw the pages, but...whoa, it's faster than I thought.

EDIT I came to a realization on something. ...Something possibly big.

It's likely everyone here has read the file, but just as a precaution:
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At the point where Sera shouts out 'Around here, Kudou-kun?' It seems everyone has looked at that and said 'Phew, Conan avoided the bullet on that one. She tried to slip him up.'

She didn't try: she did.

From what I can see, she's a fair distance away from Takagi at that point and even if she yelled really loud there's no way she would've heard his response from the phone. She knew he was there and instead of falling for her trick and saying something along the lines of 'Yeah, that's about right' he fell for the second trick in that he answered her question in the first place.
I could be wrong, but this just seemed like a WHAM realization when I thought of it.
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James Rye wrote:
Silver1412 wrote: I'll say she knows about Conan. I've got no idea what's her role, but let me say one thing. We finally got a female detective! I'm not letting her go!
We HAD a female detective before. Only problem was that it turned out that she was the murderer in the end. XD
So i doubt this will happen to Sera.
But i still hope that she´s with the BO to finally move the damm BO plot, also i found out that there´s a wine called *La Sera* so who knows?
Maybe her codename IS Sera? She introduced herself with only Sera after all unlike usually with both surname and first name. Hint? Hint? ;)
yeah, all for the moving along with the BO plot. And she does seem to looking further into Conan plus her deduction was correct up until a certain point.
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Re: (spoiler) What do you think will be Sera's role?

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uh... let's got get off topic :L
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btw, if sera was related to akai as you speculate, then her role will be the same as eisuke?

just wondering.
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SZ5531 wrote: btw, if sera was related to akai as you speculate, then her role will be the same as eisuke?

just wondering.
If we go along with the speculations made here, then yeah probably. Since they'd both would have had searched for their missing sibling.
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EDIT: Merged topics made this a double post. :I
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*771 SPOILERZ* So... is Sera

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A lesbian?
I mean: "You're my type ... so I'll forgive you" to Ran, along with her androgynous style dress enough for make SONOKO fall for her.

I also doubt it's some conspiracy plot to make Conan jealous, since she openly wore a skirt to school, meaning that she's not really trying to hide her gender. Who knows though.
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Theory about Sera O,O

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-hmmmm...  BASED ON MY THINKING  ??? ... i think Sera is somewhat connected to eisuke(dont kill me if im wrong.. it is only a THEORY!!)...  you know.... the eyes!  and the fact that she suspects conan to be Shinichi...

- my other theory... She is bourbon .. no evidences though O,O

I wanna hear about other theories :)
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Re: Theory about Sera O,O

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another thing.. is it right that i post this on manga spoilers .. i don;t really know :((
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sonoci wrote: EDIT I came to a realization on something. ...Something possibly big.

It's likely everyone here has read the file, but just as a precaution:
Spoiler:
At the point where Sera shouts out 'Around here, Kudou-kun?' It seems everyone has looked at that and said 'Phew, Conan avoided the bullet on that one. She tried to slip him up.'

She didn't try: she did.

From what I can see, she's a fair distance away from Takagi at that point and even if she yelled really loud there's no way she would've heard his response from the phone. She knew he was there and instead of falling for her trick and saying something along the lines of 'Yeah, that's about right' he fell for the second trick in that he answered her question in the first place.
I could be wrong, but this just seemed like a WHAM realization when I thought of it.
Woah, you're totally right! I was just thinking, "Oh, she has reason to suspect him now" but could have already figured Conan = Shinichi at this point. She works fast, doesn't she? o_o

And nobody replied before, but does anyone know if it's possible to have two cell phones call each other that are that close together and NOT get a weird feedback noise? I was under the impression that it wasn't possible, but I guess it is in Gosho-verse. :P
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Yes, it is correct to post it here.

And you do make a point, since isn't crazy to think that Sera knows Conan IS Shinichi or at least that there's a deep connection between those 2. Going back, only Heiji, Conan's parents, Eisuke, Haibara, Agasa and Vermouth know about that.

Obviously Vermouth won't tell anybody
If Heiji is acquitanced with her, he would have called Conan and tell him. This applies to Haibara and Agasa as well.
Conan's parents? We don't know much about them, so i can't really tell. Same goes for Eisuke who disappeared like 200 files ago...

So those could have somehow told Sera about Conan/Shinichi, most probably Eisuke. Still, I think Sera deduced herself about the Conan and Shinichi connection, maybe from the London case?
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I don't think she's Bourbon because her age and gender does't match. She's too young to be a BO Operative. Gin suggest that Bourbon is a male and if Scar Akai is Bourbon, that guy also a male. I also don't think Gosho will place Bourbon is a spotlight (Where everyone talking about)

Character who introduced as smart, suspicious, spy on Conan never turn out to be bad (Jodie, Eisuke).
If Heiji is acquitanced with her, he would have called Conan and tell him. This applies to Haibara and Agasa as well.
I actually can see everyone you mention play a prank on Conan by use their knowledge about his identity. and they probably don't mind telling his identity to someone trustworthy. But I don't think that's how Sera learn about Conan.
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sonoci wrote: It's likely everyone here has read the file, but just as a precaution:
Spoiler:
At the point where Sera shouts out 'Around here, Kudou-kun?' It seems everyone has looked at that and said 'Phew, Conan avoided the bullet on that one. She tried to slip him up.'

She didn't try: she did.

From what I can see, she's a fair distance away from Takagi at that point and even if she yelled really loud there's no way she would've heard his response from the phone. She knew he was there and instead of falling for her trick and saying something along the lines of 'Yeah, that's about right' he fell for the second trick in that he answered her question in the first place.
I could be wrong, but this just seemed like a WHAM realization when I thought of it.
I totally agree with you and with Olive. Two mobile phones which are so close will always give kind of noise. Okay, we may think that Japanese cellphones are the greatest etc., but still Conan's with his bowtie would be heard no matter how loud was Shinichi's voice in the other phone.
Two - sonoci's theory. I find it awesome. There's no way that Shinichi would hear Sera's words from that far, AND there's no way that Sera would hear his response from that far. So... Sera heard Conan's words close to her. ^_^ Hope that Gosho made this situation on purpose.
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