Shinichi+Ran

[Kor]

Because it wasn't obvious that the detective boys will be involved? I just didn't think it was that significant to write since it's OBVIOUS. Also, for what I said, the detective boys don't matter. Only Haibara and Ran matter  ;)

Of course they matter... we will have 3 girls and 1 boy, one shemale and one fat boy, each knowing each other since elementary school. With a lot of secrets, twists and hidden affections.
This is material for a completely different kind of manga.  ;D

Spoiler:

Not sure if I would read it if it weren't for Conan, Genta, Mitsuhiko, Ayumi, Ran and Ai though...  ::)

fixed. 
The only twist that a manga like that will have is that Gosho will stop making "Every character will have a soulmate" and he will make it a harem in which the three girls love Conan, while Mitsu and Genta are jealus from the side and try to get the attention of the girls.

[mangaluva]

Conan is such a little ladies' man 

[TheBlind]

Because it wasn't obvious that the detective boys will be involved? I just didn't think it was that significant to write since it's OBVIOUS. Also, for what I said, the detective boys don't matter. Only Haibara and Ran matter  ;)

Of course they matter... we will have 3 girls and 1 boy, one shemale and one fat boy, each knowing each other since elementary school. With a lot of secrets, twists and hidden affections.
This is material for a completely different kind of manga.  ;D

Spoiler:

Not sure if I would read it if it weren't for Conan, Genta, Mitsuhiko, Ayumi, Ran and Ai though...  ::)

fixed. 
The only twist that a manga like that will have is that Gosho will stop making "Every character will have a soulmate" and he will make it a harem in which the three girls love Conan, while Mitsu and Genta are jealus from the side and try to get the attention of the girls.

I actually thought you were referring to Ayumi as a shemale for a minute  .(fat=Genta,boy=Mitsuhiko,=shemale=....only one left is Ayumi)
Once you think about...Ayumi does seem like she's compensating for something. She's forcing the "I'm a girl" routine a little too hard. It will probably come down to a case where Ai mysteriously ends up in the hospital and after eliminating the impossible, Conan declares Ayumi the culprit. Forcing Ayumi to break down in tears and confess that Ai walked in on her changing and she had to get rid of her because she couldn't risk Conan knowing before they got married.

[Rellik]

I actually thought you were referring to Ayumi as a shemale for a minute  .(fat=Genta,boy=Mitsuhiko,=shemale=....only one left is Ayumi)
Once you think about...Ayumi does seem like she's compensating for something. She's forcing the "I'm a girl" routine a little too hard. It will probably come down to a case where Ai mysteriously ends up in the hospital and after eliminating the impossible, Conan declares Ayumi the culprit. Forcing Ayumi to break down in tears and confess that Ai walked in on her changing and she had to get rid of her because she couldn't risk Conan knowing before they got married.

lol you actually made a story for that xD

[Kor]

Because it wasn't obvious that the detective boys will be involved? I just didn't think it was that significant to write since it's OBVIOUS. Also, for what I said, the detective boys don't matter. Only Haibara and Ran matter  ;)

Of course they matter... we will have 3 girls and 1 boy, one shemale and one fat boy, each knowing each other since elementary school. With a lot of secrets, twists and hidden affections.
This is material for a completely different kind of manga.  ;D

Spoiler:

Not sure if I would read it if it weren't for Conan, Genta, Mitsuhiko, Ayumi, Ran and Ai though...  ::)

fixed. 
The only twist that a manga like that will have is that Gosho will stop making "Every character will have a soulmate" and he will make it a harem in which the three girls love Conan, while Mitsu and Genta are jealus from the side and try to get the attention of the girls.

I actually thought you were referring to Ayumi as a shemale for a minute  .(fat=Genta,boy=Mitsuhiko,=shemale=....only one left is Ayumi)
Once you think about...Ayumi does seem like she's compensating for something. She's forcing the "I'm a girl" routine a little too hard. It will probably come down to a case where Ai mysteriously ends up in the hospital and after eliminating the impossible, Conan declares Ayumi the culprit. Forcing Ayumi to break down in tears and confess that Ai walked in on her changing and she had to get rid of her because she couldn't risk Conan knowing before they got married.

if Ayumi was older it could have definitely been a possibility. There are some anime/manga that have a male character who acts/talks/dresses like a girl (JAPAN IS WEIRD!)
WHAT HAVE WE TURNED THE THREAD INTO?!

[Elika12]

Because it wasn't obvious that the detective boys will be involved? I just didn't think it was that significant to write since it's OBVIOUS. Also, for what I said, the detective boys don't matter. Only Haibara and Ran matter 

Of course they matter... we will have 3 girls and 1 boy, one shemale and one fat boy, each knowing each other since elementary school. With a lot of secrets, twists and hidden affections.
This is material for a completely different kind of manga. 

Spoiler:

Not sure if I would read it if it weren't for Conan, Genta, Mitsuhiko, Ayumi, Ran and Ai though... 

fixed. 
The only twist that a manga like that will have is that Gosho will stop making "Every character will have a soulmate" and he will make it a harem in which the three girls love Conan, while Mitsu and Genta are jealus from the side and try to get the attention of the girls.

I actually thought you were referring to Ayumi as a shemale for a minute  .(fat=Genta,boy=Mitsuhiko,=shemale=....only one left is Ayumi)
Once you think about...Ayumi does seem like she's compensating for something. She's forcing the "I'm a girl" routine a little too hard. It will probably come down to a case where Ai mysteriously ends up in the hospital and after eliminating the impossible, Conan declares Ayumi the culprit. Forcing Ayumi to break down in tears and confess that Ai walked in on her changing and she had to get rid of her because she couldn't risk Conan knowing before they got married.

if Ayumi was older it could have definitely been a possibility. There are some anime/manga that have a male character who acts/talks/dresses like a girl (JAPAN IS WEIRD!)
WHAT HAVE WE TURNED THE THREAD INTO?!

i now how to answer that
to a off topic thread

[Rellik]

*bzzz bzzz*

correct answer: who cares? 

[Schillok]

I actually thought you were referring to Ayumi as a shemale for a minute  ;D.(fat=Genta,boy=Mitsuhiko,=shemale=....only one left is Ayumi)
Once you think about...Ayumi does seem like she's compensating for something. She's forcing the "I'm a girl" routine a little too hard. It will probably come down to a case where Ai mysteriously ends up in the hospital and after eliminating the impossible, Conan declares Ayumi the culprit. Forcing Ayumi to break down in tears and confess that Ai walked in on her changing and she had to get rid of her because she couldn't risk Conan knowing before they got married.

Well, I don't want to interrupt, but isn't Haibara the prime candidate for the shemale? Crazy shrunk scientist with too much free time and a cellar all for her alone... 
Which would also make Shiho x Ran and Ai x Ayumi even more... interesting.

Err... anyway:

WHAT HAVE WE TURNED THE THREAD INTO?!

Should we go back to plain Ran x Shinichi?

[TheBlind]

Well, I don't want to interrupt, but isn't Haibara the prime candidate for the shemale? Crazy shrunk scientist with too much free time and a cellar all for her alone...  ::)
Which would also make Shiho x Ran and Ai x Ayumi even more... interesting.

Err... anyway:

WHAT HAVE WE TURNED THE THREAD INTO?!

Should we go back to plain Ran x Shinichi?

Always have to deflect onto Haibara don't we . But to answer your question I think Ayumi would be the prime candidate because she is the pure definition of an anime girl and if you are a..shemale it is because you want to be a girl(I'm logically assuming this to be the reason). So Ai who has many habits that you would not find in your typical anime girl is the least to be a shemale, a boy that everyone just assumed to be a girl? Maybe. But a shemale? No, Ayumi is the prime suspect of that.

Now back on topic.....actually is there really anything more that can be said about ShinichixRan?
Maybe Gosho needs to make good on Conan's words in The Missing Watch Case. Have a file where Conan finally believes he has done too much damage to Ran, picks up the phone as Shinichi, and removes himself from Ran's life. That would jump kick the series back into action, you would have a depressed Ran, a morbid Shinichi/Conan and an angry Ai that hates Conan for doing that.

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[kirite]

Ehh... you guys are having fun without me.  /sulk  It's kinda weird how I was speed reading and it was actually more disturbing when I went back to read closer xD.  

Shin's mom and dad barely see each other.

Actually no...Yukiko stopped working when she's 19-20.   I'm sure Yukiko and Yusaku stay together most of the time.  In the manga we see Yusaku ducking work to go travelling the world with Yukiko (again).  And I'm sure they're together normally because when they got into a fight it's because Yukiko noticed the lipstick mark after Yusaku came back home drunk.  

That's alright with them. But apparently, that doesn't seem alright with Ran. She'll be constantly worried about him being a detective. The only way she can survive in that relationship is if she tries to help him.

Like I said before someone out there to stab random civilians in a middle of a festival and someone trying to steal money has different objectives.  A purse snatcher if caught wouldn't be in as much trouble then if he was a purse snatcher who has injured/ killed a few people while doing so.  Sure accidents happen, but at that moment no one was hurt.  Sure it'll be great to catch the theif but that's why Ran went back, she wanted to find the guy and capture him.  

Well for someone constantly worried about him being a detective she's certainly hands off the whole thing.  During desperate revival she let him go check out the case and during the car case for Shiragami-sama she hanged back because she didn't want to distract him.  She doesn't need to help him in cases to "survive" anything (in fact I think if she helped him in cases she'll be less likely to survive).  She'll let him run off to do his thing while she watches, yells at him when he starts bragging, gives him a bandaid and wakes him up next morning for school (or something).  Sure she'll be worried, but that's normal, my dad's does dangerous work and the family worries about him too.  But that isn't something that stops a relationship.  You just realise it's work and in Shinichi's case it's something he loves to do.  Plus with their common trait of being nosy and helping people she'll actually understand if he chooses to do something stupidly dangerous for the sake of someone else. It's something she'll do too, the bravery to do the right thing is what she loves about him and emulates.  

I don't really understand...it's like saying girl/boyfriends must follow each other to work in order to date.  It just doesn't make sense to me.  The only people you work with at work is your coworkers, in Shinichi's case it would be the police and rival detectives (and cough hopefully phantom thieves).  What would a friend/love interest have anything to do with it?  If this was a martial arts manga does that mean Shinichi have to learn martial arts in order to date Ran?  What.

Ran doesn't seem that gentle when he's actually around.  As in, when he's not out there somewhere doing God knows what and coming back to drop down criptic messages and taking her out to fancy restaurants.  In fact the way she threatens to hit him is kinda scary.  I don't really think she'll let him be rude to her, much less control her.  Shinichi wouldn't be like that anyways.

Also, I didn't say Shinichi is cool and aloof in cases. I said when it comes to Ran and his feelings. His emotions and his ideals toward love in general are very cool and aloof on the outside.

He might be shy about his feelings (like how he rambled about Holmes instead of saying what he wanted to say in Desperate revival), I wouldn't say it's cool and aloof though.  It's like when Ran gave him the valentine chocolate.  He called it a peached shape chocolate and then said "I never ate such delicious chocolate" (or something to that extent).  That's not cool and aloof at all.  If that was cool and aloof then Ran's response of "why should I tell you??  And using detective kid is lame." is equally cool and aloof.

(actually now that I look at it Ran is kinda mean...xD)

I would mention how Shinichi's dream is about Ran and how he imagines them randomly confessing to each other and then snogging wihtout actually having a plan to how that would happen but yes, another time.  



And I think we should be able to talk about whatever the conversation goes to.  And I think if Shinichi removes himself from Ran's life she'll pull a Hondou Eisuke and start stalking him and threatening him with scissors.

PS:  You know there is a (few) mangas where Ayumi is a shermale... okay I stop now.

[Abs.]

And I think if Shinichi removes himself from Ran's life she'll pull a Hondou Eisuke and start stalking him and threatening him with scissors.

PS:  You know there is a (few) mangas where Ayumi is a shermale... okay I stop now.

YES.  She should stumble upon Kid instead, and try to stab him!

SHEMALES = AWESOME

[mangaluva]

And I think if Shinichi removes himself from Ran's life she'll pull a Hondou Eisuke and start stalking him and threatening him with scissors.

PS:  You know there is a (few) mangas where Ayumi is a shermale... okay I stop now.

YES.  She should stumble upon Kid instead, and try to stab him!

SHEMALES = AWESOME

Ran was so scared of that lucky fortune because she didn't want Shinichi knowing that she was a shemale

[Conia]

WTH? Every Female in DC is now a Shemale  ?

[Nyarl]

And to my dearest Kudo Shinichi...

... She WON'T keel over and die the moment you tell her your secret! Her reaction's more like slapping you/giving you silent treatment then after a few days she'll forgive you and keep your secret! And whether you like it or not, she's gonna get involved.

But if anything happens to Ran because he told her he will never forget himself.
Not to mention everything will become pretty awkward when he tells her - how should she treat him? Like Conan or like Shinichi? Not to mention she has to keep that secret, even from her best friend Sonoko, preferably even from her father. Heiji messes up often enough ("Hi Kudô... err I mean hi Conan-kun") and Ran sees him much more often.

Not to forget Rans disregard for her own safety when she does something she deems right. Remember how she hid in a car trunk because she had a bad feeling - which led to her protecting Haibara? She survived only because of the mercy of Vermouth at that time.
When she knows Conans secret and meets Gin and Vodka by chance, knowing that they might have the poison with them that Haibara and Agasa need to create an antidote - what do you think she will do? Just leaving them alone, hoping that Conan and FBI will arrive in time before these two man in black are already gone? I don't.
And when she decides to hide in the trunk of their Porsche at that time... Gin will notice the additional weight. And he will have no mercy.

The problem with that is that Ran has already associated Gin and Vodka with Shin'ichi's disappearance before. She was about to tell the police about them, but Agasa talked her out of it, then Shin'ichi started calling her to prove he was okay. She's very likely to remember them if she bumps into them on the street someday. If she thinks they might have something to do with forcing Shin'chi into hiding (and there's evidence in Paper Airplane that she still thinks he's in some sort of trouble) then it's very likely she would do something dangerous like try to follow them. On the other hand, I think she'd listen if Shin'ichi told her how dangerous they were and that her interference might ruin a careful plan to bring them to justice. Remember, in Paper Airplane she didn't just impulsively kick in the front door, she asked Shin'ichi for a plan. In both Shin'ichi Returns stories she was happy to let him go off to solve the cases and explicitly said in the latter one that she didn't want to get in the way. Of course, if she thinks someone is in imminent danger, she'd intervene regardless...

I think she's also much more likely to interfere destructively and unpredictably if she thinks she's protecting Conan from some vague threat than if she knew the truth.

[Schillok]

The problem with that is that Ran has already associated Gin and Vodka with Shin'ichi's disappearance before. She was about to tell the police about them, but Agasa talked her out of it, then Shin'ichi started calling her to prove he was okay. She's very likely to remember them if she bumps into them on the street someday. If she thinks they might have something to do with forcing Shin'chi into hiding (and there's evidence in Paper Airplane that she still thinks he's in some sort of trouble) then it's very likely she would do something dangerous like try to follow them. On the other hand, I think she'd listen if Shin'ichi told her how dangerous they were and that her interference might ruin a careful plan to bring them to justice. Remember, in Paper Airplane she didn't just impulsively kick in the front door, she asked Shin'ichi for a plan. In both Shin'ichi Returns stories she was happy to let him go off to solve the cases and explicitly said in the latter one that she didn't want to get in the way. Of course, if she thinks someone is in imminent danger, she'd intervene regardless...

I think she's also much more likely to interfere destructively and unpredictably if she thinks she's protecting Conan from some vague threat than if she knew the truth.

Or - what I think - when she bumps into them, she will remember that they were in Tropical Land the day Shinichi disappeared (and the roller-coaster murder happened) as well. She will think about Shinichi for a moment and then realize that she had seen him and talked to him a few times since that incident and come to the conclusion that this two man in black had nothing to do with his disappearance. She would probably remember them, but not investigate them any more.

On the other hand if she knew the truth... even if she knows it is dangerous, Ran just isn't the type to step back when she feels she can do something, even if it means risking her live.
In the other cases she didn't interfere because either she knows she can't contribute much to solving a case (and because she is actually not very interested on working on one anyway). She wasn't "happy" to let him go, she knew it was inevitable and because she accepts his desire to solve cases/riddles. Like you said, if she felt like she could make a difference (like in the paper airplane case) she wouldn't have wasted a second thought and done whatever possible.

I think more unpredictability is a good trade-off for the chance of not getting her involved unnecessarily.