soratothamax wrote:
@Kirite
You are right women can't be useful in shonen mangas, they have to be damsel in distresses.
Shin's mom and dad barely see each other. That's alright with them. But apparently, that doesn't seem alright with Ran. She'll be constantly worried about him being a detective. The only way she can survive in that relationship is if she tries to help him. But what good can she do? She used to at least kick butt. And even though we know that naturally it's difficult to get physical, she never had a problem with it before. The biggest mistake girls make in relationships is trying to change for a man. That could be the difference between someone's life. Yes, we're lucky he ran off and didn't put the knife into another civilian. But if she had stopped him, there would be no threat. If you have the skill, put them to use. She used to. Lately, she's letting Shinichi control her whole being. That's not bad for her. But that will also make things complicated in the relationship. If Shinichi harms her in any way (which I doubt), she'll let him control her. That's IF. She needs to develop her own persona, separate of Shinichi, like she used to have.
Also, I didn't say Shinichi is cool and aloof in cases.
I said when it comes to Ran and his feelings. His emotions and his ideals toward love in general are very cool and aloof on the outside. Ran wants him to respond to her the way he responds to cases, which is not aloof and cool. But he doesn't respond to romance and love that way. And even if he does confess, the response throughout the relationship will be hindered because his job will weigh in on his behavior, whether he likes it or not. In fact, it already has. Ran wants more affection from him than he really will give. Detectives lack in it the most....almost as much as scientists...
yea not practical, more realistic.
And yes, Shinichi is more realistic is what I mean and resourceful. Shinichi thinks realistically about most situations, especially romance, because being a detective he sees the world as it really is, and that it's dangerous. He isn't into much glamor or things that aren't useful. That's why he's practical. He also isn't easily influenced to indulge in that wasteful fantasy. He also knows how to use the environment for his use. So he is resourceful. He's always most interested in things that will further his career. Even though he is unconventional in making choices, meaning erratic, or strange in his choices, he is very practical about them. He will expect a firm practical response too. Anything useful.
Ran is just the opposite. She isn't realistic at all. She is idealistic. Though sometimes she can be resourceful (except with this recent manga...where she even lost all sensibility). She is more into interesting information. Shinichi always asks, "How will this information help me survive or anyone else?" Ran just likes information just to have it. Just to know. Ran doesn't think very realistic about anything. She's very dreamy. That's why she believes in superstitions and horoscopes and things of that nature. But she is sensible like Shinichi. Just not quite on his level...not nearly there. She's very elementary. He's more mature. Ran has seen the dangerous world, but she hasn't had to deal with them. She especially sees romance idealistically.
Idealistic people and realistic people often clash.
REALISTIC like someone I know. *cough* That he looks better with *cough* I'm ducking now...
I disagree with most of this, but I will raise some points:
1- Of course it is not alright with her and she keeps worrying about him, but why she acts this way? He left suddenly, contacts her from time to time, she is in the dark. Also, may be it does not count, but if we assume that she knows he is Conan, she does not know what he is hiding from.
2- May be idealistic people and realistic people clash in their view to things, but it does not mean that they can not be together. Ran in her ideal world does understand Shinchi's addiction to his work, although it annoys her, but she respects that. In 'disparate revival' at the restaurant, Ran has noticed that he was resisting checking the crime, but she told him to go-although in her heart she wanted HIM to decide and stay with her- because she did not want to rip him of something he loves to do the most. On the other hand, she said to Kazuha, that she too likes to see the victory look on Shinchi's face after solving a case.
However in 'what truly she wanted to ask', she caught Shinchi's jacket and did not want him to go with Heiji to solve the case until he reassured her, which she needed badly (who blames her after being left A FEW times in a mysterious way).
3-Although Ran is idealistic to some extend, she learnt Karate, she did not think it is a rough sport, she knows that she might need to use it when she needs to. Also,this virtue is ONE of the main reasons that helps her to gain people's love and friendship. Kazuha was jealous from Ran untill without thinking took off her matching top with Heji, which immediately made Kazuha look at her differently.Also, Heibara does not trust people or make friends easily, but Ran(unknowingly) has managed to win her heart and respect.
4-Since the beginning Ran puts her skills into action, just because for the first time did something like that, you and many Ran haters started cririsizing her badly and ignored the past heroic things she has done, INCLUDING RESCUING Heibara, all Heibar's fans woe Ran and her idealistic world(rescuing Vermouth before) this. I really hate it in real life when people do not forgive you when you slip and forget all the past things.
5- Not only Ran, most of the ladies demand or expect their partners to show more affection in real life. However, let's stay with DC characters. For example, look at Eri, how tough she looks, but she loved it when her husband said nice things like how much he misses her, that she has recorded it.
Besides, Shinchi can be romantic, taking her to a fancy restaurant, where his parents chose each others.( it does not matter what he wanted to tell her), but it was a cool move. Before this, He listened to his heart and decided to tell Ran the truth(when he was at the hospital), since she knew, then Heibara woke his rational side up (as she always does). I do not hate her for that, itwhich makes her a perfect friend .
In ep.268, at the end, when he phoned her, he perpousely used terms such as'sleeping like the dead' or ' peach shaped chocolate' not because he was motionless, like Ran would think, but to the reason he mentioned in ep.270 to prof. Agasa, which was clear to us only.
6- whether it was Ran or Shinchi or any other people, it is natural thing that we use any information in different ways. well, Ran is not a detective in her nature and many other people are not, that does not make her a stupid person.
8- Shinchi needs a soft person like Ran, after spending time with hard cases, at the end of the day, he needs to relax and find peace with a person like Ran
, so, he does not need another realistic person like him at home.
ooooops, I think I wrote too much
Every time I want to give up on DC, it manages to bring me back, it brings me back feelings I know that I will never ever feel or live again.
and say sorry, and the sweat talk begins.....ect ;) . It might sound negative for some of you, they will be happy in a realistic way, not a fairy tale of happiness, at least they wont be fighting about ladies , drinking, gambling....
*hisssssssssssssss* 
(although, I believe a person like her can adjust), I will look at the bright side, Shinchi is not the one who chose another one, it will be Ran's decision and Shinchi will never be able to love another woman, because when MEN are rejected, that person stays in their mind and heart, especially if the separation happens while they still love each other. It will be a sad ending to a brilliant love story 
