Detective Conan Files 796-800 Discussion Thread: Dun dun dun

[sonoci]

He makes a living out of selling cream stew on the internet.

How dare you accuse me of advertising fo-

...
u-uh, nothing

[sstimson]

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He makes a living out of selling cream stew on the internet.

LOL
and he sends it to the customers via e-mail?

The Willly Wonka of the internet?

[Black Demon]

Is it just me or the fact the Sera wants to meet Tooru was most likely because of curiosity, and nothing special ?

[Chekhov MacGuffin]

Is it just me or the fact the Sera wants to meet Tooru was most likely because of curiosity, and nothing special ?

I agree with this interpretation. At best Sera is just checking to make sure Mouri's apprentice isn't Akai.

[Cider]

I'm getting really impatient waiting for the new file.

Spoiler:

I want Ai to meet Toru so bad, let's see if she "senses" him. After all, if Chekhov's theories aree true, then he would carry that "BO scent," and since Ai didn't know him before, i'd be impressed if she felt insecure with him around.

[Black Demon]

I'm getting really impatient waiting for the new file.

Spoiler:

I want Ai to meet Toru so bad, let's see if she "senses" him. After all, if Chekhov's theories aree true, then he would carry that "BO scent," and since Ai didn't know him before, i'd be impressed if she felt insecure with him around.

But the problem is...

Spoiler:

Assume that Amuro is really Bourbon, so far there has never been mentioned whether Ai does know him or not. I wouldn't be surprised if Ai knew Bourbon and how he looks like from the beginning. And if that's the case, then I don't think that Gosho would let them met.

[Chekhov MacGuffin]

I'm getting really impatient waiting for the new file.
I want Ai to meet Toru so bad, let's see if she "senses" him. After all, if Chekhov's theories aree true, then he would carry that "BO scent," and since Ai didn't know him before, i'd be impressed if she felt insecure with him around.

But the problem is...

Assume that Amuro is really Bourbon, so far there has never been mentioned whether Ai does know him or not. I wouldn't be surprised if Ai knew Bourbon and how he looks like from the beginning. And if that's the case, then I don't think that Gosho would let them met. 

If Haibara is going to get the BO feeling from Amuro regardless of whether they know one another, that would be reason enough for Gosho to have them not meet. Amuro is new, so I doubt she would know him, unless Amuro dated Akemi or something like that. The other problem is that Okiya is going to be around, so his scent could cover up Amuro's. Haibara has had problems with numbers before when multiple BO agents were present. As long as Bourbon is loyal, I don't think Amuro will see Haibara, or if he does, he won't get a good enough look at her to tell she is a child.

[kuro_shiro]

I'm getting really impatient waiting for the new file.

Spoiler:

I want Ai to meet Toru so bad, let's see if she "senses" him. After all, if Chekhov's theories aree true, then he would carry that "BO scent," and since Ai didn't know him before, i'd be impressed if she felt insecure with him around.

But the problem is...

Spoiler:

Assume that Amuro is really Bourbon, so far there has never been mentioned whether Ai does know him or not. I wouldn't be surprised if Ai knew Bourbon and how he looks like from the beginning. And if that's the case, then I don't think that Gosho would let them met.

ai is going to meet conan. amuro will reach conan as well since sera ,ran and kogoro are worried for him.
in short if or not if ,amuro and ai will meet. what matters is what will happen then.
will she realise amuro is a bo agent or her sister's old freind??

PS:if or  not if, chekhov's theory are true until and unless gosho says otherwise

[mihai]

I'm getting really impatient waiting for the new file.
I want Ai to meet Toru so bad, let's see if she "senses" him. After all, if Chekhov's theories aree true, then he would carry that "BO scent," and since Ai didn't know him before, i'd be impressed if she felt insecure with him around.

But the problem is...

Assume that Amuro is really Bourbon, so far there has never been mentioned whether Ai does know him or not. I wouldn't be surprised if Ai knew Bourbon and how he looks like from the beginning. And if that's the case, then I don't think that Gosho would let them met.  

If Haibara is going to get the BO feeling from Amuro regardless of whether they know one another, that would be reason enough for Gosho to have them not meet. Amuro is new, so I doubt she would know him, unless Amuro dated Akemi or something like that. The other problem is that Okiya is going to be around, so his scent could cover up Amuro's. Haibara has had problems with numbers before when multiple BO agents were present. As long as Bourbon is loyal, I don't think Amuro will see Haibara, or if he does, he won't get a good enough look at her to tell she is a child.

Chekhov, I was rereading a part of your Akai - Okiya - Bourbon theories and came up with another interesting one(not sure if anyone mentioned before):

Spoiler:

what if Akai and Bourbon are brothers or something? First, in chapter 704 Okiya say "I've known his face for a very long time..." which means alot more time than just since they started working for BO and second, Bourbon was said to hate Akai even more than Gin does which means Bourbon knows Akai since way before he joined BO undercover

[D.]

He makes a living out of selling cream stew on the internet.

LOL
and he sends it to the customers via e-mail?

..and copy-paste it for the other costumers haha

You guys are so... I don't know what to say.

I was thinking about this earlier, Akai doesn't look like a good chef does he? The DB liked his curry, and he is pretty fast in preparing food.

[kuro_shiro]

I'm getting really impatient waiting for the new file.
I want Ai to meet Toru so bad, let's see if she "senses" him. After all, if Chekhov's theories aree true, then he would carry that "BO scent," and since Ai didn't know him before, i'd be impressed if she felt insecure with him around.

But the problem is...

Assume that Amuro is really Bourbon, so far there has never been mentioned whether Ai does know him or not. I wouldn't be surprised if Ai knew Bourbon and how he looks like from the beginning. And if that's the case, then I don't think that Gosho would let them met.  

If Haibara is going to get the BO feeling from Amuro regardless of whether they know one another, that would be reason enough for Gosho to have them not meet. Amuro is new, so I doubt she would know him, unless Amuro dated Akemi or something like that. The other problem is that Okiya is going to be around, so his scent could cover up Amuro's. Haibara has had problems with numbers before when multiple BO agents were present. As long as Bourbon is loyal, I don't think Amuro will see Haibara, or if he does, he won't get a good enough look at her to tell she is a child.

Chekhov, I was rereading a part of your Akai - Okiya - Bourbon theories and came up with another interesting one(not sure if anyone mentioned before):

Spoiler:

what if Akai and Bourbon are brothers or something? First, in chapter 704 Okiya say "I've known his face for a very long time..." which means alot more time than just since they started working for BO and second, Bourbon was said to hate Akai even more than Gin does which means Bourbon knows Akai since way before he joined BO undercover

well, i am not chekhov but i am too stubborn to notice that you only meant for chekhov

Spoiler:

your theory is intresting but not plausible
first of all okiya said ,"i saw a possible  acquintance(he means scar akai) but he turned out to be a look alike here . i have known him(he means akai) for a very long time so there is no way i could mistake him(akai) for a look alike(scar akai)"
it meant,possibly, to tell conan that scar akai whom jodie saw was a fake.
NOTE: bourbon is not the evil twin of akai..... unless gosho says that

and yes it is said that bourbon hates akai more than gin but it is said by gin not gosho aoyama.
and i doubt how could gin know that bourbon knew akai before he(akai) joined BO undercover.
beside it could mean that bourbon was more deeply hurt than gin by akai's betrayal or its aftermath(eg death of akemi etc)

Chekhov's theory are more believable to me than yours
PS: in the end all are theories and speculations.gosho is god in conan world and can do anything to the stories

[someone somewhere]

Akai and Bourbon being evil twin brothers would be nice

[D.]

Akai and Bourbon being evil twin brothers would be nice

^ LOL

[caribou]

going to go out on a limb (and some hopefulness~) that the case itself is connected to the BO. i suggested earlier that the BO's work may include a "consulting criminal" kind of work - where people go to them for help/instructions to get dirty work done. So the lady suspect here is the sister (or girlfriend?) of the bank employee who was killed. she wants revenge but doesn't know how to go about it - so she consults the BO (through a channel that is many many levels below the central org). they give her instructions how to go about the murders, provide the gun and listening devices, etc. in exchange, she gives the loot of the robbery. (i think the money is with the 3 robbers, but they need something to modify the serial number or smth to make it usable, this has to do with the locker?)

she may be contacted through 'dummy' numbers/e-mails - contacts that aren't traceable to anyone (or anyone important) -- that may be why she's having trouble contacting the people she is trying to contact in the last file. communication had always been one-way but now she urgently needs to find the last bank robber and kill her tonight

Why I think the BO may be involved:
1. My assumption that things like guns and listening devices aren't very commonplace for ordinary people to obtain.
2. If the Amuro-is-Bourbon theory is correct, he became Kogoro's disciple in order to observe him. Amuro doesn't know yet that dead bodies drop around Kogoro (or rather Conan) wherever he goes, so to ENSURE that he gets a case to observe Kogoro, he plants this case right in the detective agency.

-> This is why the crime had to take place in the detective agency (Kogoro would HAVE to investigate it) even though, logically speaking, it is not the most ideal place for a planned murder.
-> It cannot be traceable to the BO in anyway so the murder could not be done by the BO itself.
-> This would also explain why Amuro deliberately led everyone outside after he had deduced that the client was in fact in the bathroom (1st file in this case). He had to give the murder the opportunity to happen!

Of course there are a lot of holes with this theory but, give it a chance  ;D

[mihai]

Akai and Bourbon being evil twin brothers would be nice

that way if Scar Akai was Bourbon he didn't have to use too much disguise(just the scar that he might also got once from fighting Akai, which scar brought the hate for Akai). If you have too much disguise, the robbers might grab some of it and expose you. And since Gosho didn't point exactly which is Akai and which is Bourbon, Scar Akai can also be Akai with with a burned face after Kir "killed' him. Just like that, Okiya's words about knowing his face for a long time can fit what both Akai or Bourbon would say(one for knowing the other for a long time and one because of  hatred. But the possibility of Scar Akai being Bourbon fits better if you think about what Gin said about Scar Akai at that time(about doing only as he pleases).

It'd be interesting if Akai and Bourbon will prove to be (twin) brothers/half brothers/brothers. Who knows, we have to wait 2 weeks for the next chapter, so until then we should let our imagination romp around