678??

[Tenken]

Yeah, I know that her being in love with Akai is the reason behind this but until this case, there weren't even hints that they were in a relationship, so it just feels too convenient how things are playing out.

Didn't Akai's rejection of Jodie ("That's why I need to break up with you") already imply that they had been in love ?

Ah, that's true, I was already wondering why she didn't have a surprised expression on her face when they arrived. In the panel before her monologue about defeating the robbers on her own you can see three small stripes next to her head, probably showing she must have heard them come.

Keen observation!
I think so, too, that Jodie intentionally let them electrocute her in order to drive away anybody's suspicion of her being a FBI-on-duty.

[GinRei]

She was acting oddly foolish. Treating it like a game. Who dies she think she is, John McClain? She should of been quiet and suspected they would come looking after her soon enough.

As I said a few posts up, she wasn't doing that to gloat.  She heard the other robbers coming, and wasn't sure whether they heard her talking to Conan and the DB.  If they had, and she didn't make her little monologue about beating the rest of them by herself, they'd wonder who she was talking to.  When she's doing her weird speech you can clearly see she has a sweat bubble, showing she's nervous about her statement.

Also, she's not surprised when they show up behind her at all.

I think so, too, that Jodie intentionally let them electrocute her in order to drive away anybody's suspicion of her being a FBI-on-duty.

I don't think someone being an FBI agent would be someone's initial impression.  Worst case: they'd think she was a cop.

[TheBlind]

Yeah, I know that her being in love with Akai is the reason behind this but until this case, there weren't even hints that they were in a relationship, so it just feels too convenient how things are playing out.

Didn't Akai's rejection of Jodie ("That's why I need to break up with you") already imply that they had been in love ?

I can't recall that scene, in which file/case did it happen? If you are referring to the flashback that Jodie had in this(677) case, that only implies the story decided to take this turn recently and used flashbacks to make it seem like this was in the works for a long time. If you think about it, it's no different if in the case where Akai finally meets Haibara, they throw in a flashback that they both met prior to the DC events and where in love. Just like the Jodie&Akai(maybe I'm alone in this) it just feels cheap if they just decide to add it to the series conveniently using flashbacks.

[Tenken]

I don't think someone being an FBI agent would be someone's initial impression. Worst case: they'd think she was a cop.

Conan said something about her being a FBI, don't know if the robbers heard it though.

I can't recall that scene, in which file/case did it happen? If you are referring to the flashback that Jodie had in this(677) case, that only implies the story decided to take this turn recently and used flashbacks to make it seem like this was in the works for a long time. If you think about it, it's no different if in the case where Akai finally meets Haibara, they throw in a flashback that they both met prior to the DC events and where in love. Just like the Jodie&Akai(maybe I'm alone in this) it just feels cheap if they just decide to add it to the series conveniently using flashbacks

Yes, that's in chap 677.

I think Gosho used a flashback b/c he didn't feel like telling the whole story. My take is that they had been lovers, but no more now, that's why we didn't see the romance between them.

Where did it say or imply that Akai and Ai "were in love" ??
Prior to seeing Haibara (who was unconscious), Akai only said "koibito" ("my love"), the rest was left to us to deduce who this "koibito" was.
In chap 677, Akai said "We end it" to Jodie in the face; that's pretty obvious.
If not so, why do you think Jodie looked so sad, thinking "Even so..." when recalling that moment?

[TheBlind]

I don't think someone being an FBI agent would be someone's initial impression. Worst case: they'd think she was a cop.

Conan said something about her being a FBI, don't know if the robbers heard it though.

I can't recall that scene, in which file/case did it happen? If you are referring to the flashback that Jodie had in this(677) case, that only implies the story decided to take this turn recently and used flashbacks to make it seem like this was in the works for a long time. If you think about it, it's no different if in the case where Akai finally meets Haibara, they throw in a flashback that they both met prior to the DC events and where in love. Just like the Jodie&Akai(maybe I'm alone in this) it just feels cheap if they just decide to add it to the series conveniently using flashbacks

Yes, that's in chap 677.

I think Gosho used a flashback b/c he didn't feel like telling the whole story. My take is that they had been lovers, but no more now, that's why we didn't see the romance between them.

Where did it say or imply that Akai and Ai "were in love" ??
Prior to seeing Haibara (who was unconscious), Akai only said "koibito" ("my love"), the rest was left to us to deduce who this "koibito" was.
In chap 677, Akai said "We end it" to Jodie in the face; that's pretty obvious.
If not so, why do you think Jodie looked so sad, thinking "Even so..." when recalling that moment?

I don't know which event of the two (my love) events you are referring to, but one was to Gin during the sniping incident and the other was for Akemi after seeing her sister. Also Akai and Ai aren't in love(as far as we know), I was showing how the series could just use the same method in file 677 and by just switching Jodie for Ai, they can easily establish a love relationship without any prior evidence. Flashbacks are usually used to add information that was not present in the current story and this information can be used to quickly change the flow of the story in another direction which is what happened here.

And finally, I'm not disputing they were in love(it's obvious by the flashback and the comments made by James). I was just pointing out how this "relationship" feels kinda cheap in the way it was introduced. All of a sudden Jodie is having vital flash backs she didn't even have when she first learned about Akia's death and James thinks now is the time to comment on their relationship even though he had plenty of opportunities in the past. In a series that has all its relationships take an eternity to build up(R&S-T&S-H&K-S&M), don't you think is strange one is magically introduced in a matter of seconds and made to seem as strong as the ones mentioned?

It just makes it seem that this relationship was created last minute to justify Jodie easily believing the Akai in the bank is the real one and even go as far to make excuses for him. If they were just friends(like the files prior to 677 made it seem), her FBI training wouldn't allow for her to be convinced so easily making it harder for "Akai" to get back with the FBI(if this is where the series is going).

[mysterygirl]

I think I have most of this bank robbery solved.

The only thing I am spacing on is what they had the bank's head chief set up on the computer. He said something about "this one's done.". That implies he did same thing several times.

That was a really clever trap the kids set up with the toilet paper. I'm going to have to remember that. They are just lucky he didn't pull the trigger when he fell. That would of brought the others rushing over.

Nice. *thumbs up* I think you cracked it. And yeah, the bank manager said he was done twice. Once for the money physically and the second time for the computer (money transfer?). As for where they might stash everything... They could burn their masks in the explosion (if there is a bomb) before mixing in with the hostages.  *shrugs questionably* 

[SkyVenger]

The Inside Man... period

[Kristantei]

Nice. *thumbs up* I think you cracked it. And yeah, the bank manager said he was done twice. Once for the money physically and the second time for the computer (money transfer?). As for where they might stash everything... They could burn their masks in the explosion (if there is a bomb) before mixing in with the hostages.  *shrugs questionably* 

I thought about wire transfers, but those are incredibly easy to trace to accounts and reverse. If these guys could afford to have offshore accounts I doubt they would be robbing banks. Not to mention that if their target was electronic funds, why was the one so angry that the bank's head chief had produced so little cash at first. It's easier to hack then to rob a bank for e-funds.

If the robbers try to hide among the hostages and the money and aren't gone then it's going to scream to the police that they hid among them.
If they try blowing up the outfits and money in some bomb that would still say that the robbers are money them. It would take a powerful explosive to obliterate everything. In a small building like that it would kill everyone inside. Not to mention that police would wonder why they would blow that stuff up.
There is even the small possibility that the robbers will take a few among the individual hostages and dress them up in the outfits, while they hide among the hostages.

[Rellik]

There is even the small possibility that the robbers will take a few among the individual hostages and dress them up in the outfits, while they hide among the hostages.

i thot about tat too, but i hope gosho wnt do the same trick twice, because 1. its lame and 2. it means his running out of ideas (end of DC) :O

[Kristantei]

i thot about tat too, but i hope gosho wnt do the same trick twice, because 1. its lame and 2. it means his running out of ideas (end of DC) :O

It wouldn't be the first time something has been reused.
One of my worst deductions had to of been on the case with gold medal athlete that killed her husband and used Eri as an alibi. I was off, because I never thought that Gosho would so closely mimic a filler episode that was almost the exact same trick. He did though.
That filler episode involved a lawyer in a hotel, Kogoro was being used as an alibi, the method of death were the same; strangulation, transportation of the body was the same; car truck, the bodies were placed to put blame on someone else, and both culprits were caught because of a sound heard over the phone.
The only reason my original deduction was off was because of how similar these two seemed.

[Rellik]

yeh but tat was a long time ago (and 1 of them r fillers), and now he used the same 2 tricks and they r not fillers.

obviously running out of ideas

Spoiler:

and OMG NOES we didnt get to kno who tat 'akai' is

[Tenken]

Spoiler:

Gosho did use the same trick twice.
The method the robbers did in this case (disguising as innocent people) is similar to that used by the bus hijackers in vol 29

[Misztina]

*ironic mode on*
Oh my, Gosho makes a person to kill another one. Obviously he is running out of ideas. People just die.
*ironic mode off*

Seriously...

Just read what you have written down. First "it's the same" trick, then "it's a similiar trick". Same is not equal to similiar.
It was not the same trick, the idea was the same though, escape as victims. But I liked this case. Except the appearance of the DB. XD;;

Nevertheless, I'd liek to see more progress in the main story too, without too many fillers.

[tiffishungry]

isn't it in gosho's point of view wouldn't he make more money if he kinda dragged it out a bit?
but yes
i would LOVEE to see more about the main story line there needs to be more BO stuff
and conan needs to turn back more often
i am hoping that Haibara is like actually working on developing the antidote

[Tenken]

Yea I know that Gosho's making more $$$ by dragging DC, but
(1) after DC ends, he can continue Kaito KID series, or
(2) after Conan brings down the B.O., Gosho can still show even more cases. I'd like that actually
I don't see why he can't. It tells me that Gosho knows that readers are more attached to the B.O. story, hence the slow progress!