Discussion Thread: Detective Conan Files 815-817 "Cabin Trap

[Stopwatch]

@alicetama

Spoiler:

Nope, not after. The person who translated it over on DCW said it was. 'aside' or 'besides' the Bourbon arc iirc which is why most people think the confrontation isn't actually related to the Bourbon stuff. I'll go search out the post if you want once my internet decides to work

Also, if there are any mods about can you edit my first post to include the pic that says to use spoiler boxes? I only just realised I'd forgotten it when seeing the unspoiler posts above so... :/
I'd do it myself, but my internet connection is being... stubborn atm so I can barely get anything done... D:

[believer08]

If the confrontation between Sera and Ai is not related to the Bourbon arc... so... It'll related to what?

[AICHAN]

If the confrontation between Sera and Ai is not related to the Bourbon arc... so... It'll related to what?

Spoiler:

I think it's related to Akai...Maybe that will be the moment for Ai to know the truth about Dai and her sister's death...

[sonoci]

Spoiler:

According to the spoiler translation that was posted, the reason why Amuro looks scary is because Sera called Ran and asked her what the Professor's car looks like. Ran replies by saying, "It's a yellow beetle but why are you asking me? We all know from the previous chapters that the person Amuro is interested in is Professor Agasa.

Spoiler:

When I read the translation of that part, the first thing that came to my mind was "Oh ****, he's knows what Agasa's car looks like"

You know, along with him being suspicious about Sera phoning, Amuro may be remembering that on the highway, the car that supposedly belonged to Agasa was different than a yellow Beetle. So, in addition to his Sera suspicion, he has that look because he's wondering why the car is different than the one he saw. To be honest, at this point and with what's happened so far, I don't think it'd be a far cry to say that Amuro thinks Okiya is Agasa, since he paid most attention to him on the highway (and he doesn't really have many other names to attach to Okiya). Right now, Amuro has only heard of Agasa, that he's a guy that made a pretty useful gadget for a little kid and was involved in the chase. Since Okiya was driving and Okiya began to pull the 'shoot the tires from the car' trick - which Amuro noticed - it would be believable to say Amuro connected the dots in such a way that Okiya="Agasa". If I'm right about that, I think that when/if Amuro meets the real Agasa, his reaction will be pretty funny :X

As for Sera, Amuro obviously saw and noticed her on the highway, making the connection to Akai. If he was around to hear Sera questioning about Agasa's Beetle - not knowing that she was actually asking to go after Conan, not Agasa - he'd have even more reason to believe Okiya="Agasa". I'm guessing that Amuro has a sneaking suspicion that Okiya is Akai, so the thought of Sera asking about "Agasa" (in Amuro's case, Okiya/Akai) makes the sister/brother connection even more likely, even though he's off track.


...At least, that's what I've gathered at this point :X Obviously things could be different with more translation but as is, I think this theory is pretty solid.

[unclesporkums]

Great theory, sonoci! Makes sense to me!

[alicetama]

Spoiler:

According to the spoiler translation that was posted, the reason why Amuro looks scary is because Sera called Ran and asked her what the Professor's car looks like. Ran replies by saying, "It's a yellow beetle but why are you asking me? We all know from the previous chapters that the person Amuro is interested in is Professor Agasa.

Spoiler:

Spoiler:

When I read the translation of that part, the first thing that came to my mind was "Oh ****, he's knows what Agasa's car looks like"

You know, along with him being suspicious about Sera phoning, Amuro may be remembering that on the highway, the car that supposedly belonged to Agasa was different than a yellow Beetle. So, in addition to his Sera suspicion, he has that look because he's wondering why the car is different than the one he saw. To be honest, at this point and with what's happened so far, I don't think it'd be a far cry to say that Amuro thinks Okiya is Agasa, since he paid most attention to him on the highway (and he doesn't really have many other names to attach to Okiya). Right now, Amuro has only heard of Agasa, that he's a guy that made a pretty useful gadget for a little kid and was involved in the chase. Since Okiya was driving and Okiya began to pull the 'shoot the tires from the car' trick - which Amuro noticed - it would be believable to say Amuro connected the dots in such a way that Okiya="Agasa". If I'm right about that, I think that when/if Amuro meets the real Agasa, his reaction will be pretty funny :X

As for Sera, Amuro obviously saw and noticed her on the highway, making the connection to Akai. If he was around to hear Sera questioning about Agasa's Beetle - not knowing that she was actually asking to go after Conan, not Agasa - he'd have even more reason to believe Okiya="Agasa". I'm guessing that Amuro has a sneaking suspicion that Okiya is Akai, so the thought of Sera asking about "Agasa" (in Amuro's case, Okiya/Akai) makes the sister/brother connection even more likely, even though he's off track.


...At least, that's what I've gathered at this point :X Obviously things could be different with more translation but as is, I think this theory is pretty solid.

Sonoci, that theory just opened a doorway to my mind.

Spoiler:

So, if Amuro is Bourbon (I bet I'm annoying you guys with this. XD) and since we know that Bourbon thinks Akai is alive, he probably thinks this:
Okiya= Agasa= Akai, which is why he is so hellbent on him. After all, he probably thinks that Akai is smart enough to invent the gadgets. (Not that I'm saying that Akai isn't smart. He just doesn't strike me as the type to create gadgets. XD)

[sonoci]

Sonoci, that theory just opened a doorway to my mind.

Spoiler:

So, if Amuro is Bourbon (I bet I'm annoying you guys with this. XD) and since we know that Bourbon thinks Akai is alive, he probably thinks this:
Okiya= Agasa= Akai, which is why he is so hellbent on him. After all, he probably thinks that Akai is smart enough to invent the gadgets. (Not that I'm saying that Akai isn't smart. He just doesn't strike me as the type to create gadgets. XD)

Spoiler:

That's pretty much what my thought is right now. It's also believable because Amuro only knows of one gadget so far, the tracking glasses/badge (arguably some of the "easier" gadgets). The only "problem" here is that Amuro as of yet wouldn't have too much of an explanation behind why Conan was given the tracking glasses/badge. To Amuro, Conan is just a kid, albeit a smart one. If he thought Okiya=Agasa=Akai then he'd probably want to know why Akai would give gadgets to a little kid. If that were to happen, Conan would be in big trouble.

As of yet, though, he's pretty safe. Right now I think Amuro only sees Conan as a link to "Agasa"...a bit similar to Sera's situation, except Amuro isn't pursuing that connection as much as she is. However, if he starts to see potential in Conan as a way to meet up with "Agasa" he may start to hang around a bit more, which would inevitably lead to him and Sera meeting, probably with Okiya watching in the background.

And thus the climax of the Bourbon arc would begin 

[AICHAN]

Your theory makes a lot of sense sonoci^^

[Partsu]

I think I wanna see how this goes...Sonoci's 4koma's has been pretty close to predictions so maybe this time too...even though it's not 4koma...

[sonoci]

I think I wanna see how this goes...Sonoci's 4koma's has been pretty close to predictions so maybe this time too...even though it's not 4koma...

Hmm, well, let's fix that, shall we? 

Spoiler:

[img width=600]http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/337/mistaken.png[/img]

[MaitreDétective]

excellent^ XD

[AICHAN]

I think I wanna see how this goes...Sonoci's 4koma's has been pretty close to predictions so maybe this time too...even though it's not 4koma...

Hmm, well, let's fix that, shall we? 

Spoiler:

[img width=600]http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/337/mistaken.png[/img]

sonoci...I love you 
This is just great as usual^^

[Sato]

XD love the strip.

[eva]

new pic  Note the subtitles is not a real Japanese translated into English, 

Spoiler:

 

[alicetama]

I love you sonoci.

@eva: that looks more like art from an older case to me, though. :/