Discussion Thread: Detective Conan 1,006–1,008

[ThatLee4]

That 2-page spread. Christmas came a bit early.

It is a big reveal. Tho is a but flat because of the RUM clue switch.

But I feel this double page is not drawn that well. For how big and iconic this scene should be

[blackmoon]

As i asked you before, the do you think that this is a ROD anime? 


AnywY, if his is the finale, then i really will explode the entire anime

I did mention about that Rei will go against Shinchi next time after going against haibara and akai and all these things for no reason

So you were referring to the new movie 22 featuring Bourbon\Zero\Rei?
According to the trailer, there is someone or something that he must protect above all price, so I wonder who or what that could be? His mother?

[misc86]

Hi there,

Is there a site/article someone can direct me to to find all of the latest major plot point spoilers / canon chapters of Conan that focus on the black organization? I have missed the last 6 months of content. Thank you, and much appreciated.

[Kor]

It's against the forum rules to ask or to give links to manga scanlation sites, so you'll just have to find that stuff on your own.

That said, if you're only concerned about the Black Organization, then the latest chapter (1008) is the only one that dealt with it in the past 6 months.

[misc86]

It's against the forum rules to ask or to give links to manga scanlation sites, so you'll just have to find that stuff on your own.

That said, if you're only concerned about the Black Organization, then the latest chapter (1008) is the only one that dealt with it in the past 6 months.

I am not specifically asking for scanlations, just asking for a site with summary information.

[kentasaiba]

Hey, I just thought about something. Can it be, that Shinichis parents returned intentionally? Yukiko now knows that her son and Ran are a couple. And Shinichi had this big house for his own the whole time. So normaly two 17 year old teenagers would... do certain things the whole day, if they are undisturbed. (And Shinichi kept one of the pills)

[MeiTanteixX]

Hey, I just thought about something. Can it be, that Shinichis parents returned intentionally? Yukiko now knows that her son and Ran are a couple. And Shinichi had this big house for his own the whole time. So normaly two 17 year old teenagers would... do certain things the whole day, if they are undisturbed. (And Shinichi kept one of the pills)

I don't think anyone knows about the leftover prototype antidote except for Shinichi. They were most likely honest about their reason for coming... it's a do-or-die situation, because the BO most likely suspect that Shinichi is alive after all this (according to them).

[Jamie M. Plankton]

Hey, I just thought about something. Can it be, that Shinichis parents returned intentionally? Yukiko now knows that her son and Ran are a couple. And Shinichi had this big house for his own the whole time. So normaly two 17 year old teenagers would... do certain things the whole day, if they are undisturbed. (And Shinichi kept one of the pills)

What about Subaru-san?

[Haibara & Aika ryona]

As i asked you before, the do you think that this is a ROD anime? 


AnywY, if his is the finale, then i really will explode the entire anime

I did mention about that Rei will go against Shinchi next time after going against haibara and akai and all these things for no reason

So you were referring to the new movie 22 featuring Bourbon\Zero\Rei?
According to the trailer, there is someone or something that he must protect above all price, so I wonder who or what that could be? His mother?

No no, I meant that I wrote oneday in movie 20 thread that been closed that he goes against haibara, and then akai, and both for no reason; so how will be the next person, shinchi.

Also, we all have reasons for doing bad thing; so no one will blame us for these thing. I do not believe anything for this anime after these 11 years. hahaha

[Nemomon]

Hey, I just thought about something. Can it be, that Shinichis parents returned intentionally? Yukiko now knows that her son and Ran are a couple. And Shinichi had this big house for his own the whole time. So normaly two 17 year old teenagers would... do certain things the whole day, if they are undisturbed. (And Shinichi kept one of the pills)

What about Subaru-san?

He's just a cook, and a bad one to that. He's more interested in what's going on in other people's houses than his own, so even if Ran and Shinichi would be walking naked in it, he probably would not nitice that .

But jokes aside, I also think that they returned to help Shinichi. They exactly know that Conan can be Shinichi a few hours a week, so they surely would not do certain things. Even if they wanted. Plus, in media Shinichi is still dead, because officially the photo shows Okita, and not Shinichi, so his house is still empty. Also, Yukiko knows Vermouth, and she knows how dangerous she can be. Yusaku knows that too. Plus, Yusaku came with the Karasuma thing, and he surely knows about him more than Shinichi, and therefore he probably knows better how dangerous BO can be.

[Zerozaki4869]

I just want a little information. In his message to Bourbon which pronoun did Rum use? (Watashi, Boku or Ore?)

[Serinox]

I just want a little information. In his message to Bourbon which pronoun did Rum use? (Watashi, Boku or Ore?)

He used no pronoun in Japanese.

[Batman]

New here, been lurking for years now, decided to join in now after this big reveal..

Anyways, I have a theory I’d like everyone’s opinion on.
The main sticking point with Karasuma as the boss is that he (at least what we knew of him before the reveal) couldn’t even solve the mystery of the treasure.

Could he not have conducted that as a sort of audition for joining the BO?The detectives who were worthy had their deaths faked and were made part of the organisation and those who knew but didn’t accept the offer were killed, thus forming the organization.

Thoughts?

[CrimsonGenius]

My reasoning

Spoiler:

It must be RUM & Vermouth who went wild (& even held auction/party, invited everyone in Karasuma's name to begin with on that night) to conceal, destroy any traces of & leads to Karasuma just in case over cautious like always, in Pisco, ASACA & drugged, made/drove his guests/ acquaintances to sheer madness like werewolves, kill each other in his mansion, instead fabricated it as a horror treasure hunt battle royale death game story to ensure, officially establish that Karasuma died along with his acquaintances circle, so that to make Karasuma mainly associated with werewolves instead due to famous tragedy night rather than being associated with Crows he was originally associated with and even had Emblem, which'd then again become hints as black, nanatsu no ko, phone no., who'd be well alive in reality, then later go on to found BO(or he sent them to get rid of traces/any leads to him) & even made it urban legend for leaving it to speculation for what truly happened & what did not events of that night, obvious ー red-herring.

He also initially probably funded, became donor to Miyanos research, but become selfish at some point & ordered some sinister research & made them his pawns when he founded BO, Also Carasuma mansion & immortality mermaid legend were released almost one after another in quick succession(but in manga Kouji, seeking immortality came first then 2 volumes later came Karasuma mansion) which revealed BO's visit in seeking immortality as well as Kouji's name in BO hitlist. Further Hints, info to both, in same order(Kouji then Karasuma) in very similar fashion, which were then revealed within an year within very few volumes just like Vol 28 & 30, last year. Also Crows vs Silver Bullet Werewolf just like Magician Phantom Thief vs medieval satanic gargoyle Witch & organisation seeking immortality in Magic Kaito. That'd make most sense . also my theory that original RUM was Karasuma himself who took persona of RUMーsecond in command (self proclaimed or spread rumors as so by Vermouth) to test loyalty of members & possibly identify any potential insiders/traitors/spies/silver bullets, the one identified/described as an old man holding stick/cane....

Who for some reason he could not become RUM again for some reason when RUM again had to make an formal appearance in front of members after first, hence someone else took place of 2nd gen RUM(middle aged, strong build) by Vermouth's suggestion obviously, she knew about RUM all along, then over time something again happened to 2nd, which once again, then again RUM had to make formal appearance in front of members, which again lead another person to become 3rd gen RUM of present by again Vermouth's suggestion/order/recommendation (most probably female now) who was yet a rookie inexperienced untrained member atm which might indicate it's RUMI (Kanenori is her other unnamed rival BO member or even 2nd gen RUM( (fits with middle aged, strong build) something had happened to him, absence which led to his successor, but now he's back wanting his code name back, also why he said this one is quick-witted to Rumi, competing over who gets to be RUM of present, as well as future, he might hacked Bourbon's phone to see RUM's message to Bourbon Time is money (her rival's name scrambled) red herring, then straight went to Agasa's house to gather info, since he wants his position back asap) hence why she screwed up her mission of Kouji's death(since she was rookie who messed up, Vermouth spared her, plus RUM recovered Horse piece, U shard, despite 'messing up' huge Carasuma which gave out boss' name, as well as just happened to contain red-herring characters RUM, she was so focused on Horse piece, U shard, that she didn't notice then, which was her great mistake, as well as there was a 'need' of RUM's appearances in future, is also kinda clumsy, has Kouji's horse shougi piece & possibly U shard from mirror (dying message?) & wears cleavage, breasts, thigh, legs, skin, back, shoulders, belly revealing skimpy clothing (Camisole/Tank top) like Vermouth when seen alone, hence why there are 3 completely contradictory different descriptions about RUM appearance.

Kuroda is a former PSB spy who had infiltrated BO but quit for uncertain reason or exposed, thus camouflaged death like Akai (accident, coma) ,took completely new appearance to hide from BO, hence why he knows about Rumi who messed up her mission, cautious around her. Iori Muga might be Tsutomu who took APTX4869 & became young, became butler, that'd explain why he has mascara kinda eyes, like Akai, also his debut was very silent killer without revealing his presence just like Akai's debut, similar body language, build, wearing muffler, similar clothes, face mask, revealing identity at the end of chapter, also that'd explain why he has knowledge about historical black Fridays of European countries, also Scar Akai & Subaru had appeared in previous Friday the 13th. Also Furuyo Senma' s father might've been also a BO member, or knew something about BO that he was not supposed to know, or knew truth about Karasuma for which he had to die along with for finding treasure he was forbidden to......

[jimmy_kud0_tv2]

My reasoning
It must be RUM & Vermouth who went wild (& even held auction/party, invited everyone in Karasuma's name to begin with on that night) to conceal, destroy any traces of & leads to Karasuma just in case over cautious like always, in Pisco, ASACA & drugged, made/drove his guests/ acquaintances to sheer madness like werewolves, kill each other in his mansion, instead fabricated it as a horror treasure hunt battle royale death game story to ensure, officially establish that Karasuma died along with his acquaintances circle, so that to make Karasuma mainly associated with werewolves instead due to famous tragedy night rather than being associated with Crows he was originally associated with and even had Emblem, which'd then again become hints as black, nanatsu no ko, phone no., who'd be well alive in reality, then later go on to found BO(or he sent them to get rid of traces/any leads to him) & even made it urban legend for leaving it to speculation for what truly happened & what did not events of that night, obvious ー red-herring.

Senma, the murderer in the Karasuma case admitted that the story of the party and auction where people went crazy and killed one another was a fabrication. It was a cover story to explain all of the blood in the mansion. In reality Karasuma had been killing people whom he had tasked to solve the riddle in his inheritance as motivation for the others to solve it faster.