Files 743-752 Discussion Thread

[Shinran]

There's not much point in trying to figure out those missing words, since we're probable going to get access to them without trouble in the next file.

Regarding Ran's reaction, of course she would be mad. What's more, I'd be suspicious. It's hard to understand that a brainiac like Shinichi can't realize that he'd rather act interested to avoid Ran's suspicions. He even thinks something like "I'm not excited because I'm here". That seems pretty stupid. Even if he didn't have a reason to hide his identity, he could act a bit more interested just because she's thinking about him. Yeah, he really doesn't seem to be relationship smart at all.

Precisely, he's just blatantly saying, "Hey, Ran! I'm Shinichi because it's obvious that the reason I'm not excited is because I'm actually here!" I don't know what's even going on in his head anymore because of this. Maybe he's deliberately making Ran figure the truth out, but I highly doubt this. Though I'm pretty sure that Ran has her right to be mad at him. After all, Shinichi is acting like he doesn't have a care in the world.

[Dus]

@Riddle: What I can read:

A rolling bell rises me (no dot?)
I'm a long nosed wizard in a castle.
[...]on is a chilled boiled egg like a corpse.
I finished up with a whole pickle.
[...]ow I remember to ask a cake to cerebrate in adva[...]
It rings again for my hatred.
[...] tells me to finish everything piercing a white back [...]

The [...] means that you can see that there is something written there.
Now what I guess what the missing words could be:

London is a chilled boiled egg like a corpse. (Someone said it's "ion". But you can't see it clearly. It could also be a l, d, i or j) And since they are in London it would make sense)
N/How I remember to ask a cake to cerebrate in adva[...] (Someone said it could be Now. But How could fit into it too.)
He/She/It tells me to finish everything piercing a white back ? (dunno what could stand here. But there should be a lot of letters, so a long word or more shorter words. Since you can see some word between conans fingers/behind his hand)

I'm not sure about the meaning. Only thing that I thought of was tha "London is a chilled boiled egg like a corpse." could mean that he wants to kill a lot of people in london? If it's really london that's written there.

If I check the RAW file, it's pretty obvious that it says [...]ion. It's also more likely to be Low, because you can see the bottom stroke of an L. Doesn't look like it could be a serif of either an H or an N. Not that it makes any sense. I never noticed that the last sentence is a lot longer than we can see, but you're definitely right.
There is a point in trying to figure out what the note says. We have to wait 2 weeks for the next chapter. And I am going to wrack my brains about the meaning of this code.

You also have a point that Ai might have realized that there's no point in trying to make him stay in Japan. I still think it's suspicious that she never even tried. Nor did she point out how suspicious the behaviour of that lady is. Cursing in one's mother tongue isn't that unusual either. But it still seems like it's done on purpose to attract Conan's attention. Especially since the boy doesn't look Asian at all, so his parents are probably both British and English curses and insults should come more natural to him.

Another important point you make is that Shinichi is behaving very suspiciously. First he doesn't care about Ran being at the Holmes museum. Was it really too difficult to feign some interest in that.
And a six-year-old who speaks English fluently? I find it strange that no-one even asked him where he learned it.
Hawaii probably.

[RedPoppy]

@Riddle: What I can read:

A rolling bell rises me (no dot?)
I'm a long nosed wizard in a castle.
[...]on is a chilled boiled egg like a corpse.
I finished up with a whole pickle.
[...]ow I remember to ask a cake to cerebrate in adva[...]
It rings again for my hatred.
[...] tells me to finish everything piercing a white back [...]

The [...] means that you can see that there is something written there.
Now what I guess what the missing words could be:

London is a chilled boiled egg like a corpse. (Someone said it's "ion". But you can't see it clearly. It could also be a l, d, i or j) And since they are in London it would make sense)
N/How I remember to ask a cake to cerebrate in adva[...] (Someone said it could be Now. But How could fit into it too.)
He/She/It tells me to finish everything piercing a white back ? (dunno what could stand here. But there should be a lot of letters, so a long word or more shorter words. Since you can see some word between conans fingers/behind his hand)

I'm not sure about the meaning. Only thing that I thought of was tha "London is a chilled boiled egg like a corpse." could mean that he wants to kill a lot of people in london? If it's really london that's written there.

If I check the RAW file, it's pretty obvious that it says [...]ion. It's also more likely to be Low, because you can see the bottom stroke of an L. Doesn't look like it could be a serif of either an H or an N. Not that it makes any sense. I never noticed that the last sentence is a lot longer than we can see, but you're definitely right.
There is a point in trying to figure out what the note says. We have to wait 2 weeks for the next chapter. And I am going to wrack my brains about the meaning of this code.

You also have a point that Ai might have realized that there's no point in trying to make him stay in Japan. I still think it's suspicious that she never even tried. Nor did she point out how suspicious the behaviour of that lady is. Cursing isn't that unusual either. But it still seems like it's done on purpose to attract Conan's attention.

Another important point you make is that Shinichi is behaving very suspiciously. First he doesn't care about Ran being at the Holmes museum. Was it really too difficult to feign some interest in that.
And a six-year-old who speaks English fluently? I find it strange that no-one even asked him where he learned it.
Hawaii probably.

Let's just wait for the next file and we will get the whole text.

Who thinks that London Case could be also Suspicion Case? As said, Conan behaves suspicious since long time ago, there're so many signs that he's Shinichi. I can't believe that Ran is soooo blind. Shinichi who doesn't care about Holmes would probably make Ran worried (she had rights to get mad, I agree), then she would see Conan doing something suspicious and... BANG~! Or she would see accidentally (or not) Shinichi and... BANG~! She would be double mad!

Guys, I'm just curious about Ran's phone. Let's suppose that in London Case won't be anything about her suspictions. When she will go back to Japan, will she notice after checking a phone bills that Shinichi wasn't in Japan? I know that connections between two countries will be shown, but if two people with mobile phones talks through them in other country, it would be a difference in phone bills or not?

[Abs.]

1.  Shinichi's sneezing on the plane was not because he had a cold (he didn't), but because Ran and Kogorou were talking about him up in first class.

2.  I don't think it's a big deal that Shinichi's being so careless with his reaction to Ran on the phone/the phone bill when Ran returns to Japan - because he's probably going to end up taking the pill and becoming Shinichi in London and Ran's going to "realize" that the reason Shinichi seemed so disinterested is because Shinichi was actually in London (since he will show up as Shinichi in front of Ran for some reason)

[pofa]

For some reason, I assumed Agasa faked passports and things for Conan and Haibara a long time ago.

I hope the BO doesn't find out that Shinichi Kudou just flew to London. (Actually, I hope they do. I want to see them again.)

Yeah, he was kind of a jerk on the phone to Ran, regardless of whether he has a "surprise" for her later. She was looking forward to him being excited with her.

[Abs.]

Note: Shinichi doesn't know that he'll have to turn into Shinichi in London in front of Ran later  

I'm just saying that's probably how the story will go

So yeah, he's a jerk

But we knew that

[Shinran]

Note: Shinichi doesn't know that he'll have to turn into Shinichi in London in front of Ran later 

I'm just saying that's probably how the story will go

So yeah, he's a jerk

But we knew that

This is very true.

[delsie29]

I didn't think much about Shinichi and Ran's phone call, since I've been in similar situations. When someone randomly calls me while I'm busy doing something else, I tend to be fairly lacklustre about whatever exciting news they have and am more focused on getting this person off the phone so I can back to what I was doing.

Okay, so maybe I'm a jerk too.    (Though I've also been on the other side of that, where I'm the one with exciting news and whomever I'm calling is distracted and not paying attention.)

So Conan is in full fanboy mode and suddenly Shinichi gets a call from Ran. He was probably more interested in getting her off the phone, especially since the wrong noise (like someone shouting up the stairs in English) might tip her off that he's actually in the same building as her.

Admittedly, it was short-sighted not to ask for souvenirs. That was the most suspicious behaviour so far, I think.

For some reason, I assumed Agasa faked passports and things for Conan and Haibara a long time ago.

At the very least he must've faked some school records, otherwise how could they transfer into a "new" school? (Not that I know anything about the required paperwork; I'm just guessing.)

Also, there was the case where Shinichi's parents were introduced. If I remember correctly, they wanted to whisk him off to America. Wouldn't he need a passport for that? Well, I suppose they could've pulled some strings or called in some favours to make it happen....  Of course, something from 600+ chapters ago probably has limited relevance.



This chapter did feel a bit rushed, but with everything that had to happen before the end, it's understandable (annoying, but understandable). I thought the random invitation was part of the rushing - a plot contrivance to get our characters where they needed to go. Now I'll probably be proven wrong in the next chapter; it's what I get for taking things at face value. *laughs*

Plot contrivance is also the only reason I could come up with for why neither Ran nor Kogoro checked on Conan's passport themselves.

[Abs.]

Admittedly, it was short-sighted not to ask for souvenirs. That was the most suspicious behaviour so far, I think.

If someone got to go somewhere that I'd been dying to go to, I'd just be jealous and would hope they wouldn't bring back souvenirs for me (don't rub it in my face)

Well unless it's food

[delsie29]

Admittedly, it was short-sighted not to ask for souvenirs. That was the most suspicious behaviour so far, I think.

If someone got to go somewhere that I'd been dying to go to, I'd just be jealous and would hope they wouldn't bring back souvenirs for me (don't rub it in my face)

Well unless it's food

That's true.

I was wondering why Ran thought Shinichi would be glad to hear from her while she's visiting one of the places he's always wanted to go. When I get calls like that, I tend to be grumpy, not thrilled.

[Dashin]

I was wondering why Ran thought Shinichi would be glad to hear from her while she's visiting one of the places he's always wanted to go. When I get calls like that, I tend to be grumpy, not thrilled.

They are close friends, and she's excited to be in the place her dear friend would love to meet, so she calls him to share that good moment, cause he's the one who would understand what she's going through. It's also probably just an excuse to call him.

[xGinx]

Admittedly, it was short-sighted not to ask for souvenirs. That was the most suspicious behaviour so far, I think.

If someone got to go somewhere that I'd been dying to go to, I'd just be jealous and would hope they wouldn't bring back souvenirs for me (don't rub it in my face)

Well unless it's food

That's true.

I was wondering why Ran thought Shinichi would be glad to hear from her while she's visiting one of the places he's always wanted to go. When I get calls like that, I tend to be grumpy, not thrilled.

She just wanted him to be jealous of her and tease him a little .....

Who thinks that He's going to have problems with the second pill and to come back to Japan?? or maybe that He'll have to use it there in London??

[Dus]

It should be.
But there should be at least ONE person on this forum who has read enough Doyle to figure them out. Unless they're incredibly obscure or made obscure by Gosho's terrible English.

[xGinx]

Admittedly, it was short-sighted not to ask for souvenirs. That was the most suspicious behaviour so far, I think.

If someone got to go somewhere that I'd been dying to go to, I'd just be jealous and would hope they wouldn't bring back souvenirs for me (don't rub it in my face)

Well unless it's food

That's true.

I was wondering why Ran thought Shinichi would be glad to hear from her while she's visiting one of the places he's always wanted to go. When I get calls like that, I tend to be grumpy, not thrilled.

She just wanted him to be jealous of her and tease him a little .....

Who thinks that He's going to have problems with the second pill and to come back to Japan?? or maybe that He'll have to use it there in London??

havent you read any posts in here?

anyway, the riddle is probably filled with holmes refrences

Nah, I just got here xD .... It's 14 pages

[Akemi~chan]

She just wanted him to be jealous of her and tease him a little .....

Who thinks that He's going to have problems with the second pill and to come back to Japan?? or maybe that He'll have to use it there in London??

lol that'd be funny if he did, then he'd have to stow away on the plane