Agasa and Mouri are not the BO boss

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Re: Agasa and Mouri are not the BO boss

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Someone on another thread once said something like,
"I hope the BO boss reveal is a 'WTF?!!?!!" moment instead of a '...WTF?...' moment."

I agree. I'd like it to be someone we've seen around several times, but don't know so well that the big reveal would insult Conan's intelligence, which is how I would feel about Kogoro or Agasa being anokata. I think the shock value would wear off pretty quickly and I'd be left feeling a little cheated.

On the other hand, it'd be cool if we'd seen the character enough times to be relatively used to him/her, which is why I currently like Youko-chan over Yamamura's grandmother.  ;)
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Re: Agasa and Mouri are not the BO boss

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pofa wrote: Someone on another thread once said something like,
"I hope the BO boss reveal is a 'WTF?!!?!!" moment instead of a '...WTF?...' moment."

I agree. I'd like it to be someone we've seen around several times, but don't know so well that the big reveal would insult Conan's intelligence, which is how I would feel about Kogoro or Agasa being anokata. I think the shock value would wear off pretty quickly and I'd be left feeling a little cheated.

On the other hand, it'd be cool if we'd seen the character enough times to be relatively used to him/her, which is why I currently like Youko-chan over Yamamura's grandmother.  ;)
I think it'd be interesting if it was someone that was never suspected as the Boss.  I'm not sure if that's possible though since nearly every character has been suspected at some point...
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Re: Agasa and Mouri are not the BO boss

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Abs. wrote:
Chekhov MacGuffin wrote:
xGinx wrote: Mmmm, maybe the BO BOSS was Shinichi but he hasn't been told yet LOL

When was Yamamura's Grandma introduced in the story?? anyone knows??
The silver white car case I'm pretty sure. It's rather late in the series.
No, in the "Makoto comes from overseas via red handkerchief to save the day" case, Yamamura mentions her, and she's even drawn in...
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Yep, here she is. I'll add her to the list of recurring minor people then. I'm keeping a list here with a bunch of other garbage vague unsupported speculations.
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Re: Agasa and Mouri are not the BO boss

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Chekhov MacGuffin wrote:I'm keeping a list here with a bunch of other garbage vague unsupported speculations.
Dearest Chekhov,

How would you prefer we direct issues/corrections/critiques to what is written in your dumping ground?

Please advise.

Love, Abs.   :-*
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Sakina wrote:
pofa wrote: Someone on another thread once said something like,
"I hope the BO boss reveal is a 'WTF?!!?!!" moment instead of a '...WTF?...' moment."

I agree. I'd like it to be someone we've seen around several times, but don't know so well that the big reveal would insult Conan's intelligence, which is how I would feel about Kogoro or Agasa being anokata. I think the shock value would wear off pretty quickly and I'd be left feeling a little cheated.

On the other hand, it'd be cool if we'd seen the character enough times to be relatively used to him/her, which is why I currently like Youko-chan over Yamamura's grandmother.  ;)
I think it'd be interesting if it was someone that was never suspected as the Boss.  I'm not sure if that's possible though since nearly every character has been suspected at some point...
Pretty much. Ooh, no-one's suggested the Yokomizo brothers! It's been proved that with a wig, they could provide alibis for one another! J'ACCUSE!
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Re: Agasa and Mouri are not the BO boss

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Abs. wrote:
Chekhov MacGuffin wrote:I'm keeping a list here with a bunch of other garbage vague unsupported speculations.
Dearest Chekhov,

How would you prefer we direct issues/corrections/critiques to what is written in your dumping ground?

Please advise.

Love, Abs.   :-*
No idea. I do want the critique, but I just stuffed it in an old thread because I didn't feel like it was worthwhile enough to make a new thread. I could repost it in another thread that is more recent and more on topic for stuff like this, but I don't have a thread in mind. I sure wish you could post without bumping a thread to the top of the pile. Anyone have any opinions on what I should do?

Edit: After the latest beetle breakdown, I realized that Agasa can't be the boss because he would have definitely ordered Gin to fix it after all the trouble it's caused him. But wait, maybe the beetle is afflicted with a case/plot-seeking curse like Conan's which not even a dedicated mechanic could overcome. hmm...
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Hmm now Nyarl's the one who is ruining everything  :P

Perhaps something along the lines of "Chekhov's thread  >:("...
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A "Mysterious Checkhovery" topic. (jing will kill me for this one)
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Xytan wrote: To say much, while basing it off of Gosho's personality is logical...

Were talking about a diabolical evil mastermind, if anything he is going to do the unexpected - Even if the unexpected is simple and seemingly under our nose.

None of the main characters can possibly be the Boss, let alone known organization members... Even Vermouth in private shivered when she heard news regarding the Boss. Gin strikes me as a Bad Company character named 'Haggard' who just likes to kill things and blow stuff up, but in the end would follow orders.

If anything, Gosho will do something sporadic and unexpected. I'm in favor of a character that was 'briefly' mentioned somewhere but has appeared numerous times. Gosho won't probably drop the bomb but would leave subtle hints somewhere.
I totally agree with this. The BO boss has to come in swift and easy and and unexpected. If we have seen him, we didn't notice him. ;D And didn't he say that Ai would be surprised when she finds out who the boss is?

yep, this has to be a goal....if it's anyone we know currently...well that wouldn't be interesting at all... ;D

Except if it really was Kogoro or Agasa.... :o
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Re: Agasa and Mouri are not the BO boss

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The boss is Ai's Dad and he isn't really dead. 3 cheers for random accusations.
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Xcommando wrote: The boss is Ai's Dad and he isn't really dead. 3 cheers for random accusations.
Mmmm, i don't think it's too far from reality (at least DC's reality)
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Re: Agasa and Mouri are not the BO boss

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I think it might be slightly possible. Still if he was then he would not have had them kill Sherry but then it could give away his identity so he wouldn't. Since they say that he worked under the boss s a scientist, he could have secretly been the lead and had vermouth tell every one his plans, or he could of been promoted and his death was to make it seem the actual boss never left and he wouldn't seems suspected as the boss by other members because they think he is dead. And he could of made it possible to let his wife leave the organization with out being killed because see is also supposedly dead.

And their I set up a new BO leader suspect sherry's Dad.
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And Ai's dad being the BO boss was the thing Ai's mother told her in the cassette tapes....and Ai was next in line to inherit the BO....until someone killed him and took over!

My active imagination.... ;D
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Re: Agasa and Mouri are not the BO boss

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Plus since Gosho said "Ai would be surprised about who the boss is." This means it is a character that Ai is more familair with, other wise he wouldn't have just adressed Ai and would of said everyone. So it will be a character Ai knows personaly and Conan never met. This is another reason that shows why her Dad is a likely boss, and it CAN'T be Mouri or Agasa because of said statement.
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Re: Agasa and Mouri are not the BO boss

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agasa and mouri will never be the BO boss ..
and the my only reason is
because the story will be ruined ..

why would aoyama go that far if only agasa or mouri is the mastermind of the black organization ..
wahaha ! it is not someone close to conan .. i think ..
i think that the BO boss is someone sherry knows and conan nver met before ..

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