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[S.Vineyard]

Days Of Future Past was imo. the best part of the X-Men series yet.

@Singer: Rumors say that that a Hawaian Judge has dismissed the case.

[Conan-chandesune]

Days Of Future Past was imo. the best part of the X-Men series yet.

@Singer: Rumors say that that a Hawaian Judge has dismissed the case.

I agree with you. Also, the rumors are really bad for the movie. I have met many people who bash the movie just cuz of the allegations and go like.... gay, rapist and so on..... childish and, sadly, loud. X-Men grossed a little over a mil less than Cap 2 and i cant help but think it would be better if not for this, probably fake, scandal.

[Jd-]

Definitely the best X-Men movie.

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The creative way of "rebooting" everything was really great, because they had a lot of inconsistencies that had developed as a result of the spin-offs and First Class. This will let them set everything straight and keep it all on track going forward.

[mangaluva]

I went to see it yesterday with some friends since it has so many good actors involved and it is a really, really good movie.

Spoiler:

All I really want now is for the changes to include Magneto realizing that human genocide is the wrong path a lot sooner and he and Charles getting married and teaching together and being happy forever PLEASE

Okay, I know it won't happen, but I can dream.

Jennifer Lawrence was really exceptionally amazing as Mystique in this one, I think. You can see how she's growing into the cold-blooded killer that she is in the earlier movies, and more importantly you see WHY. I know I'D want to shoot somebody in the face if they were responsible for the graphically-recorded torture and murder of my friends.

Also, Quicksilver and every scene with him were solid gold and I wanted so much more of him. Extra giggles for him going, "so you can control metal, huh? My mom knew a guy who could do that..." especially with Michael Fassbender doing a little double-take and getting an expression like he's counting backwards in his head... XDXDXD (More likely a mythology gag than directly implying anything, but still pretty funny.)

Also bonus points to Michael Fassbender for keeping a tighter grip on his accent this time. Apparently it was because he was so excited about being in the same movie as Sir Ian McKellen that he put a LOT of attention into his accent and intonation to make it sound like McKellen's XD

I just hope we get to see more of some of the mutants from the future scenes. Especially Blink and Warpath. Blink's powers were AWESOME and Warpath was both a badass and pretty hot. More of them plz?

[Kor]

Fun movie. I enjoyed it.

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My only problem was that the second act kinda dragged, but besides that, I didn't have any real problems with it.

My favorite things about this movie:
Most of the one note mutants from First Class didn't appear in this one, which is a pretty good thing as far as I'm concerned. Not only did I not care about any of those characters, but it really did well for the movie to have the "past" section only focus on overall 5 mutants (plus Quicksilver).
Speaking of which, Quicksilver was one of the highlights of the movie for me. Too bad he didn't stick along or appear later on.
I also liked how they inserted threads and connections to the other movies (even Origins got some treatment).

One question, though:
Does Rogue have her powers again, or did she still give up on them? I couldn't see if she was wearing gloves in that one scene in the end.

[mangaluva]

Spoiler:

I didn't see if she was wearing gloves, although I'd assume that she did give up on her powers. It's probable that the serum still exists, and in the movies at least (dunno about the comics) Rogue never really enjoyed or embraced her powers, not because of societal pressure against mutants but because she couldn't stand not being able to physically touch anybody she loved without killing them (she should go have lunch at The Pie Hole sometime I swear). So whatever the new stance of society towards mutants is, she probably still gave them up. I think she had the white streak in her hair, so Magneto probably still wound up trying that business with the mutant-making machine.

Quicksilver was gold every second that he was onscreen, but I think my favourite in this movie is Mystique. I've really enjoyed her journey over First Class/DOFP. She made me cry too with her reaction to finding the autopsy photographs and at the end when she made her own choice not to shoot Trask.

[Kor]

Spoiler:

I didn't see if she was wearing gloves, although I'd assume that she did give up on her powers. It's probable that the serum still exists, and in the movies at least (dunno about the comics) Rogue never really enjoyed or embraced her powers, not because of societal pressure against mutants but because she couldn't stand not being able to physically touch anybody she loved without killing them (she should go have lunch at The Pie Hole sometime I swear). So whatever the new stance of society towards mutants is, she probably still gave them up. I think she had the white streak in her hair, so Magneto probably still wound up trying that business with the mutant-making machine.

Spoiler:

I'd like to hope she indeed gave up on her powers, mostly so at least some things (like character development) from the trilogy would remain.

[Jd-]

What's interesting is...

Spoiler:

The next movie, X-Men: Apocalypse, will be focusing on the 1980s and the First Class cast. So... we've now glimpsed the future as it was in the repaired timeline, which means the Apocalypse stuff has either happened and everything was fine later on, or it hasn't happened yet and the future is again ripe to be changed, meaning all of this could have again been for naught.

[Conan-chandesune]

Shit.
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[Jd-]

Shit.
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Incredibly smart move on Marvel's part. Those old contracts for Spider-Man/X-Men/Fantastic Four are allowing Sony and Fox to milk billions of dollars for no real licensing cost. Fox should've already done the classy thing and let Fantastic Four come back to Marvel and just focus on X-Men. It's obvious they don't know what they want to do with the franchise and are just scrambling to get something in the works just so they can keep the license.

[Conan-chandesune]

Incredibly smart move on Marvel's part. Those old contracts for Spider-Man/X-Men/Fantastic Four are allowing Sony and Fox to milk billions of dollars for no real licensing cost. Fox should've already done the classy thing and let Fantastic Four come back to Marvel and just focus on X-Men. It's obvious they don't know what they want to do with the franchise and are just scrambling to get something in the works just so they can keep the license.

Yeah, but... It's the FF. You dont stop publishing the FF. I have been reading an issue or two of the FF every month for the past decade. And it's just wrong. Also, if the X-Men weren't huge sellers, they would stop publishing it too??? WTF??? They are the X-Men. The premier superhero team. Before the Avengers, who are now as famous as them and are treated as EQUALS (which they are not, as far as i am concerned, they will always be second tier to the X-Men, and the critics and finances back me up on this one.), the X-Men were always the top of the best seller list of Marvel. They made the top 20 monthly sales chart since 1975. And till today, we have 5 X-Men titles in the top 20 and no Avengers one, (even though they are being published twice the amount of X-Men titles). Seriously, it BURNS me when people say the Avengers are Marvel's premier superhero team. They are not, and they never were. The X-men were setting records, both financial and critical, since the 80s. The Avengers were nobodies who barely made the top 100. But, i am diverting from the main topic. This is what i feared. Comic books are becoming a casualty of the war between big studios for billions of dollars. And i cant stand it.

[Kor]

What's interesting is...

Spoiler:

The next movie, X-Men: Apocalypse, will be focusing on the 1980s and the First Class cast. So... we've now glimpsed the future as it was in the repaired timeline, which means the Apocalypse stuff has either happened and everything was fine later on, or it hasn't happened yet and the future is again ripe to be changed, meaning all of this could have again been for naught.

Spoiler:

On the one hand, I don't see the point of retconing a retcon, especially so soon. On the other hand, that leaves us in a bit of tough spot because if we know everyone is okay in the new present, then there isn't much to worry about regarding Apocalypse.

lack of suspense vs. another retcon

I prefer avoiding a retcon, but hopefully the writers will find some sort of way to not compromise.

Since now they have full 50 years to fill stuff in and let us know what happened in the new timeline, I wonder how many midquels we're going to get.
I do wish for more sequels with the original cast, though. I know McKellen is getting really old, but I can never get enough of him.

[Detective Tommy]

Question about X-Men Wolverine Origins and X-Men Last Stand

Spoiler:

In the end when Professor X comes out the helicopter to greet Cyclops and the other X-Men, he was clearly walking. Does anyone have an explanation? I just assumed he was using his powers to project himself in front of them and he wasn't actually there. But I'm curious.

Also, Professor Xavier dies in X-Men Last Stand, so does anyone know for sure how he is alive in the future? Someone told me a mutant brought him back but not sure if that's true.

I don't know much about the X-Men comics, I've only watched the cartoons before. But just saw Days of Future Past and it was awesome!

[Jd-]

There are a number of inconsistencies in the X-Men movie franchise, but that's just how it is. This wasn't laid out like the Marvel movies to be a continuing series that would all culminate and intertwine--they were just making it up as they went along, which was fine to a point.

Going forward, I wouldn't expect those kinds of inconsistencies anymore. Hopefully.

[Kor]

@Tommy

Only point I can really explain to a degree (based on the movies) is regarding Xavier.

From wikipedia

In a post-credits scene, Dr. Moira MacTaggert checks on a comatose patient who greets her with Xavier's voice. Startled, she replies, "Charles?"

This was back in 2006, when no one knew they were supposed to stay for after the credits :V

There are a number of inconsistencies in the X-Men movie franchise, but that's just how it is. This wasn't laid out like the Marvel movies to be a continuing series that would all culminate and intertwine--they were just making it up as they went along, which was fine to a point.

Going forward, I wouldn't expect those kinds of inconsistencies anymore. Hopefully.

Even Future Past had an inconsistency from the last Wolverine movie, with Logan having metal claws again (at the former present) even though that was taken away in the Wolverine.
I know there was a report that Singer explained why that is, but well... it's not explained in the movie, so...
I was also wondering if someone could explain since when Kitty had a "sending back consciousness in time ability"

That said, if they decided to tackle all the inconsistencies and contradictions across the former timeline, that'd be additional lines of exposition, which would have probably hurt the movie rather than help it.