I've never read Harry Potter, but from what Rowling said, she has always intended to end it the way it ended (somehow it's hard for me to believe though) and that she was getting a lot of hate-mail.mangaluva wrote:All agreed. It's not always a bad thing to change in response to readers (I changed my characterization of Saguru in WPBIO because a number of readers pointed out that I was painting him as a bit too much of an asshole... and they were right ^_^;) but professional writers have even more obligation to keep readers happy, since their paycheck is in it. Still, it's impossible to keep everyone happy, and some will be annoyed at your perceived loss of integrity... Creativity and business don't always work well together (except for those who do their best work in Deadline Panic XD) but them's the breaks. Aoyama just needs to gamble on ending the manga at a believable point, but one where we're still wanting a little more (not when we're sick to the back teeth of it) and thus more likely to read his next work, given his propensity for self-referencing. It's a judgement call.soratothamax wrote:Absolutely. It's not called slavery, it's called business. Aside from that, professional writing is 40% creativity, and 60% psychological (which includes business pressures, fan influence, and environmental issues within the home (paying bills, meeting family needs, etc)). Anytime you go into writing professionally Kor, it is like running a regular business.mangaluva wrote:That's kind of overexaggerating, Kor. Especially the slavery part. To publish anything, you need a publishing contract, which gives both you and the publishers- and marketers or any other parties involved- different levels of power. The write does not hold 100% of the power. This practice exists in all countries, in case you were wondering. It's just that Japanese social codes are a little stricter when it comes to work than they are in the west. It's not slavery. It's just stricter. In any country, if you've entered a publishing contract, you kind of owe the publishers to actually turn up the agreed amount of work. Think of Yuusaku getting stalked by his editors. Professional writers can't enter a contract then churn out a book a decade later, or whenever the hell they feel like it. All parties in a publishing contract have levels of rights and power, and that means that mangaka or authors or whatever have to turn up the goods. That's how it works.Kor wrote:so japan believes in slavery and forcing people to do things for living they don't want to do? this seems...odd.Melissa wrote: I know what you mean but we are talking about Japan. So I'm not sure Aoyama does just feel free to stop the job just because he feels it's enough for him. I mean, you have the social pressure. You can't quit your job just because you want it here.
Gosho has the master cards here. He has the rights over DC. Shounen sunday only has the publishing rights and if Gosho wants to finish, they can't do anything to him.
I, as a writer, don't believe a writer can be forced to write, otherwise the result is awful. When I will get my novel published, I will want to continue another novel in the series. Even if my books will be a greater hit than Harry Potter, I will write only as much as I'll need for the story and not strech it any more than that. Most of the stories that ended, but still a writer continues to write just because his work is popular, only fail eventually because the story isn't as good as it was. Thankfully, Gosho didn't end his story yet.
I take it you haven't had anyone read your writing yet, have you? Wait til that day comes.... it's not as simple as just write a story. Everybody is influenced in some way by others who read the stories.
It takes guts to end a story because it won't always satisfy everyone, and you lose a lot of money that may have contributed to paying bills or buying groceries, not to mention fame and honor. Once it's done, it's done and can never return. The chances of any other story being nearly as popular is 50/100. There's a large chance others will follow the writer through, but also a large chance that people will move on...
I have my values and I truly don't intend to change them for the sake of the readers unless I'm told to by the deciders (editors/publishers) "do this and that"
With my luck/imagination, the sky is the limit. These are my "dreams", not the readers', and they don't know better than me, and if my plan is to kill every one at the end, everyone will die at the end............
I never learned how to write a novel, I just read a novel series and decided "I can do that too!" and started to write. I'm sttuborn and I'm a person who doesn't change his view points, so until reality proves me wrong, I'll be heading that path I've chosen. Reality though didn't prove me wrong in the last few times it should have - I believe that if I truly desire something, it'll happen, and so far, it worked.
(reality, would you please prove me wrong? I lately started to think that reality is scared of me 8) and luck is on my side all the time 8))
