ESPIONAGE: Round Four (Spy & Informants Win!!)

[dumytru]

Day 3 ended.

dumytru, the GM, was killed!

And---- as for voting results, it's a TIE!

votes soon

[Jd-]

My internal reaction: "Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo... Not another day of this... "

My external reaction: "OK, let's... try to work together. This time..."

A tie is obviously bad news all around for the civilian side. We now know... exactly what we knew before, which led to a tie. Are we really going to tie again tomorrow?

[Fujiwara]

...

Okay, how about this, Jd-:
Since you and I did nothing but fight for the last two days, and it has led us to nothing, I have a peaceful proposal:
How about neither of us says anything for the whole Day, letting everyone else come to a conclusion on their own?
We hand in our votes in the end based on what everyone said, but we don't take part in the discussion.That way we hopefully won't get a repeat of today.

[Jd-]

...

Okay, how about this, Jd-:
Since you and I did nothing but fight for the last two days, and it has led us to nothing, I have a peaceful proposal:
How about neither of us says anything for the whole Day, letting everyone else come to a conclusion on their own?
We hand in our votes in the end based on what everyone said, but we don't take part in the discussion.That way we hopefully won't get a repeat of today.

Done, done, and donnnnnne! (...I just hope this post isn't the last one in the topic before dumytru saying "Day 4 has ended!" tomorrow)

Godspeed to all involved. I will vote with the civilian majority, and for the love of all that's holy please avoid another tie. I won't be posting anything to influence you from here on. I realize this may open it up to the whole thing being hijacked by any bad player(s) around, but there's meant to be more good ones here to combat that. I'll rely on you and go with whatever your instinct is.

[Togop]

OK, Robo and Jellitto ignored my question about the rationale for their vites in day 2. So I'm making a separate post to repeat it:
We knew Ansai was definitely not the detective, so it only makes sense to vote someone else if you have some actual suspicions. As such, what were your suspicions for your votes during day 2?

[miakakiri]

*flails* OK, I tried to vote and thought I got it in just in time... but apparently my clock is not lined up correctly. I have 1:50pm EDT. What the heck time is the phase supposed to end? I am confused....
Dumytru-san's post is marked as having been around a half-hour ago.... so did I miss by a full hour or a half-hour or.... what?
So much confusion..... ~_~*

[dumytru]

The votes:

Jd-: Fujiwara, googleearth, togop
Fujiwara: Yuri, Jd-, RoboG55
Togop: jellitto
Phantom: seed

The remaining votes are selfvotes. Sorry I'm not posting them myself.

[Iwamoto Yuri]

*wakes up from too long nap*
Wow... this is great people, thanks for at least trying something this round...

[Jellitto]

OK, Robo and Jellitto ignored my question about the rationale for their vites in day 2. So I'm making a separate post to repeat it:
We knew Ansai was definitely not the detective, so it only makes sense to vote someone else if you have some actual suspicions. As such, what were your suspicions for your votes during day 2?

I voted Yuri on day one because she wanted to arrange a tie and I don't like arranged ties since they don't give any information to the Detective.

On day two I voted her for the same reason and didn't vote Ansai because of that. Three players had already said they voted for him, so I thought my vote wouldn't matter anyway.

@RoboG55 Did you send in your vote when you posted here close to the phase change or did you vote earlier?

[seed12]

Well since there is one day left, I might as well reveal this : I'm an informant

[Jellitto]

Well since there is one day left, I might as well reveal this : I'm an informant

... Why are you saying that?

You could be honest and be telling the thruth but you could also be the Spy and try to make yourself a perfect cover by that. I don't know why you would say that as a civilian.

But I still don't understand your motivation here to tell this.

[Togop]

seed12 probably wants to estabilish Fujiwara or Jd- as non-informant, tough not sure why. Reasons would do better to convince me than a strange claim like that.
Or he doesn't want to het arrested, but he hasn't been nominated yet.

[RoboG55]

OK, Robo and Jellitto ignored my question about the rationale for their vites in day 2. So I'm making a separate post to repeat it:
We knew Ansai was definitely not the detective, so it only makes sense to vote someone else if you have some actual suspicions. As such, what were your suspicions for your votes during day 2?

I voted Yuri on day one because she wanted to arrange a tie and I don't like arranged ties since they don't give any information to the Detective.

On day two I voted her for the same reason and didn't vote Ansai because of that. Three players had already said they voted for him, so I thought my vote wouldn't matter anyway.

@RoboG55 Did you send in your vote when you posted here close to the phase change or did you vote earlier?

I voted before I went to bed, but I saw that vote as completely irrational. And I changes it about 12 minutes until the phase change.
Day 1: Didn't have any time to vote really, so I voted myself by default.
Day 2: Voted googleearth because I was told that he/she disrupted the vote day 1. I didn't want to vote Ansai because he's my brother and it would be mean to try to lynch him.
Day 3: I followed Jd- and voted for Fujiwara. I originally voted for Miaka but that wasn't fair because she didn't really know what was going on and all. And besides, Jd- encouraged us to vote for Fujiwara. Had no better ideas; I voted for Fujiwara.

To be honest, I have no good idea as to who could be the Spy.

[PhantomWriter]

*flails* OK, I tried to vote and thought I got it in just in time... but apparently my clock is not lined up correctly. I have 1:50pm EDT. What the heck time is the phase supposed to end? I am confused....
Dumytru-san's post is marked as having been around a half-hour ago.... so did I miss by a full hour or a half-hour or.... what?
So much confusion..... ~_~*

I'm also confused. When precisely are the votes tallied?

[Togop]

Phase Results: 1:00~2:00 PM EDT Daily

dumytru counts votes sent by 1pm EDT and usually posts the results shortly after.

Robo, interesting of you to confess to being responsible for causing the tie.
I mean, tallied all announced votes here (viewtopic.php?f=30&t=12198&start=225#p804894) and then said I'll vote Jd-. So you should have known that voting Fujiwara would likely cause the worst-case scenario - a tie.

Nobody ever said that googleearth disrupted the tie in day 1. So it can only have been Ansai not on this thread. I realise askimg you and Ansai not to talk about the game at all is a little too much if you live together (I don't know if that's the case, but you did say you were brothers), but basing decisions on that is definely cheating.

I'll post more after talking to dumytru.