Discussion Thread: Detective Conan Files 876-878

[MeiTanteixX]

Maybe that girl in the pic is also a teen, sera also looked really young the more i look at the picture, their age gap isnt necessarily big, she could 5/4 years younger(if sera is 18 then the girl could be 13) i dont think any woman would want to remarry and get a child that fast aftet her husband dies, but it depends on how old sera was when her father passed away

[k11chi]

That hand thing is really odd because usually we see either a eye or person being "...", but now it's just a creepy hand...

Usually the eye/person going "..." is for the "suspect"/"culprit", isn't it? The way I see it, that kind of thing is for case-relevant characters, usually being the suspect, culprit or witness, as they spy on something relevant to the case. This character isn't spying on anything to do with the case (yet), though.

On the note of the measurements, would Gosho pay enough attention to that so it could be measured mathematically when the only thing being shown is a hand? I imagine he'd "eye" it a bit and go by instinct (he has a lot of experience so he probably didn't have to think about measurements too much), but I doubt he'd expect someone to go to those lengths to check the height. (...Actually, it's kind of funny to imagine him pausing all of his work to measure the drawing with a ruler or protractor, while his assistants just sit there watching him while wondering whether or not to ask about how that relates to the case.)

On that note, I don't think the angle would work for someone from Conan's height. For one, the hand's a bit big for a little kid. Also, if it were someone Conan's height, I think the arm would be more angled. The angle fits the second picture Chek linked. Most likely, it's a teen or an adult.

No... Usually it's someone related to the case but not the culprit mostly

The ones I mean are characters like Subaru, Amuro and Conan himself

[Carmady]

Based on Sera talking about Conan and a girl "a long time ago", it makes it sound like that girl in the picture is Sera as a little girl, and she and Conan met back then (when he looked the same as he does now).

However, maybe the girl is Sera's niece, but was shown because she has a strong resemblance to what Sera looked like as a little girl, thus it would still be a reference by Sera to meeting Conan a long time ago.

[ShinRan4ver]

Based on Sera talking about Conan and a girl "a long time ago", it makes it sound like that girl in the picture is Sera as a little girl, and she and Conan met back then (when he looked the same as he does now).

However, maybe the girl is Sera's niece, but was shown because she has a strong resemblance to what Sera looked like as a little girl, thus it would still be a reference by Sera to meeting Conan a long time ago.

The Girl in the picture is definitely not Sera, given the grown up Sera is also in the picture.

[PhantomWriter]

Based on Sera talking about Conan and a girl "a long time ago", it makes it sound like that girl in the picture is Sera as a little girl, and she and Conan met back then (when he looked the same as he does now).

However, maybe the girl is Sera's niece, but was shown because she has a strong resemblance to what Sera looked like as a little girl, thus it would still be a reference by Sera to meeting Conan a long time ago.

But Sera says she has no other notable relatives [aunts, uncles, grandparents, ect.], aside from her mom, Shuichi [who she thinks is dead], and her second older brother. Where would that cousin come from?

And, at the same time, the mystery kid is blonde, which bothers me on some level. Theories that have who appears to be Sera be her mom tend to have the mystery kid be young Sera or young Shuichi. The problem is that they're all supposed to look markedly similar. Natural hair color would be an important trait in terms of resemblance, moreso than eye-bags, I would think. The contradiction is that they're supposed to look similar, yet one is blonde and the other two are dark-haired? [Though I will admit that the Shuichi theory does have a bonus little joke of "he looks like a miniature Char Aznable," it still bothers me due to that fundamental issue.]

This all presumes that Sera is telling the truth about how she and Shuichi resemble their mom and the middle brother resembles their dad, whom we don't know the appearance of, and that she's telling the truth about her immediate family, though.

[Spimer]

I just want to send out a warning: color covers in the Chinese scans are fan-made so they might not be their official colors to begin with: be skeptical of them.

[PhantomWriter]

I just want to send out a warning: color covers in the Chinese scans are fan-made so they might not be their official colors to begin with: be skeptical of them.

Even then, there's still a noticeable shade difference between the two, even if they aren't blonde.

[Aya Murakami]

Okay, so I've been doing some thinking on this whole Sera case, and this is what I've got figured out so far.

Spoiler:

So we know Sera is definitely related to Akai, as we've seen in the Mystery Train Arc. And we know almost for certain that Akai is Okiya. This means that Akai cannot be the person on the photo next to Sera. Now, I'm pretty sure that the person next to Sera is a girl, but whether she is as old as Conan or not is still quite vague in my opinion (take into consideration that her body is covered and thus we can't actually see what her body looks like). Also, I'm pretty sure that James Black is the rich friend Sera was talking about, taking into consideration that James knew Sera was a girl only from a picture, and as we've seen before Sera is usually assumed to be a guy. And it also looks pretty clear that Sera knows Ran and Shinichi from the past, and is pretty sure about Conan being Shinichi.
That being said, I've noticed some things.

First of all, the eyes of the girl in the photo. Not the actual outline of the eyes. Those, with the eye bags and all, are pretty similar to Akai's and Sera's. I mean the actual pupil of the eye.



As you can see, her pupils look like the pupils Aoyama draws on foreign people, such as Jodie or even Akai himself. On the other hand, Sera's pupils look like those Aoyama draws on japanese people, like Conan or Ran. Why's that?

Another thing I noticed is that the girl looks remarkably like Haibara. Now, if I remember correctly, Sera began searching for Haibara, and looking at her pictures. Could it be she was actually looking for this girl and thought Haibara looked similar to her? Could it be the original reason she came to Japan was to find out if Akai was dead, but also to find the little girl? Could it be she found her, and that's who she has hidden in her hotel room?
And one more thing. As far as we know, we only know Sera has a second brother because she's said so. But if she didn't have a second brother, and she made up that whole story as a cover up for something else, well then that would be a whole other story, wouldn't it?

[MeiTanteixX]

She must have a second brother, who else responded to her text? Even if it was someone else, why would she lie about it, and also, about shuukichi haneda, he was awfully suspicious as if he knew more than he could say, about conan for indtance, he does fit with the description of being sera's brother, he is 28, like her brother (since the schoolmates sera and co. met was 28, the same age as her brother), he changed his surname Sera into either Akai or in this case, Haneda(sera might not know it), he is intelligent as described by sera, doesn't look like akai and sera(since he looked more like their father, as apposed to sera and akai (who properly look like their mother)), and as mentioned, he acted as if he knew conans potential, exactly like her brother who revealed that he already met the "magician".

Another possible thing is that sera might be in love with shinichi, since she showed a lot of signs of having deep feelings for him, ex: her relief for conan making it alive after the kidnapping(ep 674), blushes by happiness after hearing conan asking if they've met before, asking if conan has met a certain first crush in the past, meaning herself(latest chapter), calling herself a bad kid after witnessing ran and conans deep relationship.

Oh yea, and about the girl in the pic, since we can agree that the eye bags, that akai and sera have, comes from the mother side, it is possible to conclude that she is related through their mother side since she got the bags herself, also as,mentioned by #Aya Murakami, the pupil and hair tells us that she has an American(foreign) inheritance. since it would be boring if she was a just a not-so-distant relative of sera, I would as i mentioned in my last message guess that she is sera's half sister, where as they share the same mother but different fathers, or she could be neice, which would be boring. As to when they started living together (sera and that girl), could be that she found her later on in Japan (and maybe confused with haibara) or they came together from America, with the help of James Black.

[Aya Murakami]

My only doubt about her being Sera's half sister is, why wouldn't she tell Conan about her?
I mean, she's been fine with telling him about his two brothers even though one of them is supposedly dead and that's why she came back to Japan in the first place, and even went so far as to explain to them the differences in the last names. I think Sera really trusts Conan, whether it's because she's met him before as a younger Shinichi (very possible) or because she is actually also in love with him (I have thought about this too), so it'd be weird for her not to tell him about having a half sister. Moreover, if this half sister was a victim of the Aptx. 4869, it'd be even more strange, since Sera knows something about it because she obviously knows Conan is Shinichi.
Also, about the theory of Sera being in love with Shinichi, I actually do believe it's quite likely because of her interactions with Conan and Ran, but honestly if that was the case, I'd be quite a little mad at Aoyama because let's face it, we've had this before with Eisuke and with Haibara, and I think now (sorry to the AixConan shippers but i'm basing this on facts) that Shinichi has confessed to Ran, introducing a sort of love triangle with Sera would be too much. I'd much rather Sera be like a best friend for Shinichi, different to Heiji. More like an annoying big sister that bugs him a bit but that he can also trust.

[mihai]

I don't think there'll be any love triangle of any sort involving Conan/Shinichi. Sera probably just has a crush on Shinichio and this chapter asked to see if he still remembers her from when they were young. But it was funny to see Conan shipped with Ayumi and Haibara and have to agree with Sonoko that he got away too quick.


one more thing that I have to add to Chekhov's theory is that the novelist might've known beforehand which of the editors would win. Because if he was supposed to write in the time of the murder, he wouldn't have time to actually write.

[MeiTanteixX]

I also believe that there will not be a love triangle, only a secret crush that might be revealed later on to either conan or ran (probably ran, like with Eisuke), another proof(hardly a proof) that sera might have a crush on him is during the introduction chapter of sera, when sonako said:"who knows, a love rival might turn up and snatch him away" to ran ,after ran told her about the confession and that she didn't answer. Right that moment Sera showed up! Typical Gosho sign

[MeiTanteixX]

And why she didn't tell him about having a half sister, could be that she might endanger her, maybe because she might be a target of the black organization (could be for any reason, like what @Aya Murakami said about apotoxin4869)

[Carmady]

And, at the same time, the mystery kid is blonde, which bothers me on some level. Theories that have who appears to be Sera be her mom tend to have the mystery kid be young Sera or young Shuichi.

Hair color can change in children (you could have pure white hair when you are young, and later it changes to brown).

Combining that with the girl he met "a long time ago", it seems like it should be white haired Sera before her hair changed.

If it was one of her brothers, how old would she and Shinichi have been? Would it even be possible for them to meet when her brother was that young?

There are lots of other options, but this seems like the most "innocent" option for Sera. If she is already well aware of APTX4869 for example, I don't think she would so easily show off a picture about it.

[AVA]

Aya Murakami pointed out that the girl in the photo resembles Haibara as well as the Akai siblings, which makes me want to suggest that she's Akai Shuuichi and Miyano Akemi's love-child... But since that would never happen with the Black Org watching, I guess we'll have to file that with the crack theory category. ^_^ Personally, I think the kid looks a bit like Vermouth, but I can't imagine how family reunions would go if the Akai and Vineyard lines shared a branch. Talk about family drama...

This might have already been mentioned, but we also don't have any overt proof that the "girl" in the photo is female. Clearly Sera can pass for male; it's possible that the child might just be an effeminate-looking boy. Note the thicker eyebrows (a typically masculine art convention) and unisex haircut. (Though I'll admit this theory isn't a likely one, since the outside-of-story editorial comments seem to have identified it as a girl.) I also think it's a younger child, probably about Conan's current age, judging by the head ratio as compared to Sera in the picture.

On a tangental topic, if the second brother does turn out to be Haneda Shuukichi, I really hope that he and Akai are in fact twins, because that would be the ONLY possible justification for parents naming their first and second sons Shuuichi and Shuukichi.