Conan and Bourbon - question

[Adel34]

I usually watch the anime and don't bother with the manga, but I do check it out occasionally when there's BO-related stuff going on. So it's been a while since Tooru Amuro was revealed as Bourbon. The moment I saw Bourbon still randomly assisting Conan with cases made me wonder - what the heck? Hasn't Conan always been eager to capture a BO member? I mean why does he let a BO member wander around, it seems very strange. Can't he call someone from the FBI to provide information? After all, he does have Jodie's number... I've been trying to look up some answers for this strange course of events on the DC wiki and browsing the latest manga files, but I couldn't find a good reason why Conan does absolutely nothing about Bourbon.

Could anyone provide some info on the topic? Because it's really confusing me.

[Puto]

He did tell Jodie about him. No idea why they didn't just arrest him, although I suppose that might be because that might compromise Haibara's safety? I don't know.

[Adel34]

He did tell? In which file?

Haibara's safety? But all BO members except Vermouth think that she's dead, right? And we know that Vermouth won't tell anybody, so...

[Akai Shuuichi]

File 850. Anyway, what I believe is since we don't know anything about the current DC timeline, we assume it's long since there were a lot of chapters that followed, but, it may be just a few days or a week maybe, this info sure will develop, and we will see a BO/FBI arc based on this info, but when? We don't know since as I already said we don't know the DC timeline. So, I assume the next BO arc would start with something like. FBI "Ok. Since we got info that Tooru is Bourbon, let's try putting a plan to assure we capture him." Or something of that kind

[dcfan01]

At the moment of that case, it made sense, since bourbon didn't know that conan was involved in the FBI vs BO thing..
He had no reason to keep his distance from the mouri detective office..
If conan confronted him, he would lose the only advantage he had over the BO, the surprise factor.(they didn't know he knows)

Now as you may have already read, in ch.850-852
Amuro learns that conan is involved with Jodie and the FBI, and that he knows about the BO, since he was the one that helped find the spy in the hospital.(Conan doesn't know the BO knows he knows (Friends, anyone?) )

And this is the real problem.. Amuro underestands the danger that conan represents, so the real puzzle here is why isn't the detective agency burning already?..

MAYBE there is more to Amuro than we know.. If it was Gin, Conan would already be 6 feet under the burned ground..

[Elixir]

Those FBI agents can't just arrest people in Japan. They have no authority as well as permit to operate. If Amuro Tohru should be apprehended by the Japanese police, on what legal case? Is there concrete evidence?

[Adel34]

@dcfan01: Maybe he's taking orders from Vermouth, after all Vermouth is the person who Bourbon usually contacts and she doesn't want Conan and/or his family to get hurt, so she told him not to hurt them (like she did to Gin a long time ago).

@Elixir: But they could keep Kir under supervision when she was in hospital and they did plan to interrogate her later, so what's the problem? They did get the authority of the Japanese police and they didn't have any "concrete evidence" either. I think that simply being under suspicion of belonging to a dangerous organization is an enough reason to take some action.

@Akai Shuuichi: Yes, that would make sense, I hope it will really be the case. On the other hand, they probably want to confront Bourbon and Akai face to face at some point. At this point Bourbon is still in the process of doing research on Akai's death. So yeah, maybe the reason why he isn't being captured is because of the developing plot reasons.

[Elixir]

@Elixir: But they could keep Kir under supervision when she was in hospital and they did plan to interrogate her later, so what's the problem? They did get the authority of the Japanese police and they didn't have any "concrete evidence" either. I think that simply being under suspicion of belonging to a dangerous organization is an enough reason to take some action.

~Dialogue from Episode 345 DCTP subs~
"Vermouth: My my.. What a dangerous toy you have there. Did you get the proper permit from the Japanese police, I wonder?
Jodie: I'll have the joint police operation authorized once I have you in custody. Naturally, I'm prepared to accept any official reprimands."
Well, that was in Episode 345. I am not sure if during the Clash arc, they already got permit. They were able to 'catch' Kir because she got into accident (and was immobilized) before participating in assassination attempt against a Japanese personality.

Akai and Conan must have realized it's pointless to interrogate her, because Akai might have already knew what she knew about the BO. Therefore, they would benefit more if she gets back there to leak more info.

Additionally, only few people knew Kir was there in the hospital. FBI, Conan-tachi, BO and some hospital staffs. Save me the trouble of searching (the manga chapter or anime ep)whether the Japanese police knew she was there under FBI supervision, or if they did get the permit.

Sure, they can arrest Amuro for the suspicion. Amuro can deny. So what then? I don't think it is enough to keep him for long.

[Chekhov MacGuffin]

@Elixir: But they could keep Kir under supervision when she was in hospital and they did plan to interrogate her later, so what's the problem? They did get the authority of the Japanese police and they didn't have any "concrete evidence" either. I think that simply being under suspicion of belonging to a dangerous organization is an enough reason to take some action.

~Dialogue from Episode 345 DCTP subs~
"Vermouth: My my.. What a dangerous toy you have there. Did you get the proper permit from the Japanese police, I wonder?
Jodie: I'll have the joint police operation authorized once I have you in custody. Naturally, I'm prepared to accept any official reprimands."
Well, that was in Episode 345. I am not sure if during the Clash arc, they already got permit. They were able to 'catch' Kir because she got into accident (and was immobilized) before participating in assassination attempt against a Japanese personality.

Akai and Conan must have realized it's pointless to interrogate her, because Akai might have already knew what she knew about the BO. Therefore, they would benefit more if she gets back there to leak more info.

Additionally, only few people knew Kir was there in the hospital. FBI, Conan-tachi, BO and some hospital staffs. Save me the trouble of searching (the manga chapter or anime ep)whether the Japanese police knew she was there under FBI supervision, or if they did get the permit.

Sure, they can arrest Amuro for the suspicion. Amuro can deny. So what then? I don't think it is enough to keep him for long.

Elixer is definitely right here. They kept Kir at the hospital because James Black was an old friend of the hospital owner. The police would not approve of the FBI's missions in Japan if they knew about them.

The FBI could kidnap Amuro, but that would paint a huge target on Kogoro's back again. If Amuro disappeared, Kogoro would be the first person suspected, or at least suspected of working with the FBI once the BO found out whodunnit. Gin is still suspicious of Kogoro after the transmitter on Kir's shoe incident. This time Gin might not listen to Vermouth and follow through on killing Kogoro.

Strategically Amuro right now is untouchable by Conan and the FBI. If they were to capture him Conan would have to find a good reason to throw him out away from Kogoro (Conan caught Amuro sneaking into Kogoro's detective mail?), or Amuro would have to be lured into a situation where no one (including Amuro himself) in the BO would think Kogoro contributed to the plan.
Amuro additionally has "blackmail" on Conan. All he has to do is reveal that he saw Conan and the FBI meeting together to the greater BO and Conan and Kogoro and Ran would be targeted, along with Conan's identity. Amuro could always hold this above Conan's or the FBI's head to escape a trap situation.

[Adel34]

@Chekhov : Your explanation seems reasonable, but what is going to happen from now on, then? If Bourbon continues to wander around Conan, he will discover his identity for sure. He can hack Kogoro's computer to gather information and he will still continue to research Akai's death. From the look of things, he's benefiting the most whereas Conan is at risk. I just can't believe that Conan is gonna just sit there and do nothing or just wait for Bourbon to make a mistake.

[Akai Shuuichi]

I don't think he'll be able to discover his identity, noway he could link Conan to Shinichi, at most, he can assure that Conan is behind "Sleeping Kogoro", which he already did.

[Pmofmalasia]

I don't think he'll be able to discover his identity, noway he could link Conan to Shinichi, at most, he can assure that Conan is behind "Sleeping Kogoro", which he already did.

Except Eiuske figured out that Conan is Shinichi, and he had less information than Bourbon does. Bourbon's much smarter, too.

[Akai Shuuichi]

I don't think he'll be able to discover his identity, noway he could link Conan to Shinichi, at most, he can assure that Conan is behind "Sleeping Kogoro", which he already did.

Except Eiuske figured out that Conan is Shinichi, and he had less information than Bourbon does. Bourbon's much smarter, too.

Certainly, but Eiuske was around Ran and Sonoko evertime so he heard about Shinichi relatively much more than Bourbon did, so it's easier for him to link them, and if you will re-call, Eiuske couldn't get solid proof until Conan told him, so even if Bourbon was able to surmise that Conan is Shinichi it would be really hard for him to find conclusive evidence.

[Chekhov MacGuffin]

@Chekhov : Your explanation seems reasonable, but what is going to happen from now on, then? If Bourbon continues to wander around Conan, he will discover his identity for sure. He can hack Kogoro's computer to gather information and he will still continue to research Akai's death. From the look of things, he's benefiting the most whereas Conan is at risk. I just can't believe that Conan is gonna just sit there and do nothing or just wait for Bourbon to make a mistake.

That is what chapter 900 is for I suppose. Conan has two advantages right now. The first is that Amuro doesn't know Conan knows he is Bourbon. I doubt Vermouth has told Amuro the truth. That means Conan can act under a guise of "what I did is just a coincidence". The second advantage is Akai Shuuichi who is living in the Kudo house. He would like to avoid being seen by Bourbon, but he can be sneaky, and he can continue to do moves like hack from afar.

[Puto]

Haibara's safety? But all BO members except Vermouth think that she's dead, right? And we know that Vermouth won't tell anybody, so...

Conan only knows that Amuro is Bourbon, because Amuro told 'Sherry' (actually Kaitō Kid, but he doesn't know that), who as far as Amuro knows, died afterwards. If Amuro finds out Conan knows his identity, then he'll try to find out how he knew, which could lead him to Haibara.