*SPOILER FREE* Discussion Thread: Detective Conan Files 859-861

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Nix wrote:I think she means that this increases the likelihood that Shuuichi and Shuukichi could be related :/
I still don't get it. D: W-wait, you don't like the idea, Nix?
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Ringo wrote:
Nix wrote:I think she means that this increases the likelihood that Shuuichi and Shuukichi could be related :/
I still don't get it. D: W-wait, you don't like the idea, Nix?
It's not like I don't like the idea, it's more that I just want it to be Amuro XD

As for the kanji, Gosho based Akai on the Gundam character Char Aznable. Therefore having Char's VA share a similar kanji in his family name with Shuukichi could imply towards Akai and Shuukichi being siblings. Plus, their names are too similar: Shuuichi and Shuukichi. :V
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Haneda Shuukichi is Sera's brother... say what??? But I guess it makes sense that Yumi would call him Chuukichi. Shuu-ni is the eldest. Chuu-ni is the middle. Hahah XD


I prefer her 'smart' brother be Okiya. >.<
On the otherhand, I thought maybe Sera is mocking Conan alluding that Akai (Conan) is a different person, that she was calling the 'smart' 2nd brother (Shin'ichi) for hints. In which in Conan's case, Conan = Shin'ichi.

Oh so many possibilities..
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Nix wrote:As for the kanji, Gosho based Akai on the Gundam character Char Aznable. Therefore having Char's VA share a similar kanji in his family name with Shuukichi could imply towards Akai and Shuukichi being siblings. Plus, their names are too similar: Shuuichi and Shuukichi. :V
Oh. D: That's already a long shot, but still is reliable. Thanks, Chekhov and Nix. (:
Elixir wrote:Haneda Shuukichi is Sera's brother... say what??? But I guess it makes sense that Yumi would call him Chuukichi. Shuu-ni is the eldest. Chuu-ni is the middle. Hahah XD


I prefer her 'smart' brother be Okiya. >.<
On the otherhand, I thought maybe Sera is mocking Conan alluding that Akai (Conan) is a different person, that she was calling the 'smart' 2nd brother (Shin'ichi) for hints. In which in Conan's case, Conan = Shin'ichi.

Oh so many possibilities..
That's the usual theory, Elixir. I enjoy this theory, but won't bother if the author defies it.
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^Ringo, that's not really that of a long shot since Sera and Okiya both have Gundam character references I think
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Ringo wrote: That's the usual theory, Elixir. I enjoy this theory, but won't bother if the author defies it.
Yeah. I kinda like the idea somehow, and kudos to the one who first brought the idea.. but if that's the case I would mind that Shuukichi is the smart one. Yeah, he IS smart but there's connotation that he's smarter than Akai. No way. XD just my preference though.
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We know that Akai, Okiya, Moroboshi Dai are named after Char Aznable of Gundam fame. Sera, Akai's sister also name after Char's sister so we can assume another brother of Sera will bear Gundum related name. Chek points out that Ikeda shuichi who voices Char and Akai share a kanji with Haneda Shūkichi . Since we already have theory that this Shukichi is Sera second btother,
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User 4869 wrote:We know that Akai, Okiya, Moroboshi Dai are named after Char Aznable of Gundam fame. Sera, Akai's sister also name after Char's sister so we can assume another brother of Sera will bear Gundum related name. Chek points out that Ikeda shuichi who voices Char and Akai share a kanji with Haneda Shūkichi . Since we already have theory that this Shukichi is Sera second btother,
That's the basic idea. He's a good pick because he is intelligent enough that Sera might think of him as the "smart one" and he SPOILERS ( would recognize Conan from a picture ) SPOILERS. I am not yet a strong supporter of any particular middle brother theory so far, other than Okiya is Akai, at least the Okiya we have seen so far.
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If Shuukichi is the second brother then Akai is a mix of Sera and Shuukichi but with better qualities ; he's stronger than Sera(assuming he's the one who taught JKD to Sera) and would be smarter than Shuukichi.. but it would be difficult 'cause Shuukichi seems very smart and great detective as a Shogi champion so maybe on par with him, hehe.
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This is all assuming that there IS a second brother. It's still possible that Sera was trying to throw Conan off by saying so, and was really speaking to Okiya/Akai (though, considering he's still pretending to be dead, the chances of him speaking to his sister... are probably not good).
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just got around to reading the second chapter, seems a bit more obvious of a murder method than most :x
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This whole second brother business... I still can't really accept this being anything but misdirection. Gosho is trying to set up something unorthodox. It's never meant to be as simple as it seems.
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Akonyl wrote:Okiya is actually the third (intelligent) sibling, and doesn't look like either Akai or Sera because he keeps his eyes closed all the time.

Akai's just dead.
A problem with that is when Okiya finally opened an eye in the last panel of Ch 824, he looked very much like Akai and Sera. I don't think Sera would say he doesn't resemble her based on having his eyes closed.
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she's just never seen him with his eyes open, so she wouldn't know.
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The translation of Yamamura's speech is pretty good!
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