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What is Sera Masumi's identity

Akai's sister (someone else)
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75%
Akai's sister (FBI, CIA, or other law enforcement)
12
11%
Akai's sister (Black Org agent)
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1%
Akai's sister and Bourbon
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3%
Akai's sister (someone else)
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4%
Bourbon
0
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Black Org Agent (new)
0
No votes
Black Org Agent (known one in disguise)
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No votes
Sister of Black Organization member (not counting Akai)
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No votes
FBI
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2%
CIA
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No votes
Other agency (Interpol, PSIA, MI6...)
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1%
New or rival Organization
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No votes
Known character in disguise
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Relative of other known character not mentioned above
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2%
non-BO freelance assassin
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High school girl only
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1%
Someone else
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1%
 
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Jefufuh wrote: Just adding in my 2 cents...
Same

If Sera knows Conan, she must have meant him as Conan. If you believe that she knew him as Shinichi, then she knows that Conan is Shinichi. Either way I begin to wonder if she is a she or is someone else disguised as a girl. I currently have a crazy idea, but for now will keep that to myself.
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It's highly likely that Sera knows Conan is Shinichi.  Eiuske knew right away that Conan was behind Kogoro's success, so if Sera met Shinichi when they were young (i.e. when Shinichi looked like he does now) it wouldn't be too hard for her to make that further connection.
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If that is the case, why the currently secrecy? They were alone. She could have said I knew you when. But she did not. Sorry, but to me that suggest there more here then meets the eye. I have a feeling that they meet while he was Conan, and I also feel they do know the secret. That might explain why they are being so secretive.
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Just watched the Cold Case episode, and I was thinking about the bad kid comment.  I wonder if maybe young Shinichi found out she did something wrong and told her she was a bad kid?  Just a thought, since it seemed kinda directed at Conan.
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Sera called herself a bad kid because she's lying to Ran and Conan, using them as a means to find out what happened to her brother, when Ran and Shinichi(or Conan) were good friends of hers a long time ago.

Ran and Conan don't recognize her because Sera had her hair cut short and probably dyed her hair a different colour.
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If Sera knew about Akai being the reason why Akemi was killed she might think it was Akemi's sister Shiho that killed him. Shiho is the only suspect Sera would think of and Akai wouldn't tell her of the Black Organization.

Haibara felt a threatening presence from Sera because she was feeling angry about Shiho being the one responsible for her brother death.
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Pandora12 wrote:
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If Sera knew about Akai being the reason why Akemi was killed she might think it was Akemi's sister Shiho that killed him. Shiho is the only suspect Sera would think of and Akai wouldn't tell her of the Black Organization.

Haibara felt a threatening presence from Sera because she was feeling angry about Shiho being the one responsible for her brother death.
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Bingo. This would be one possible explanation for the future Masumi vs. Ai battle that Gosho mentioned in an interview a couple of years ago.
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Has anyone noticed that the name Sera first appeared on that nail polish bottle way back early in the manga during that artist murder case where the murderer tried to make it look like a suicide by jumping from a building?

I wonder if it's likely if Sera has a connection to the makeup company that sold that nail polish (like how Agasa's first love Fusae is the creator of the Fusae brand purses), and I wonder if Ran, Sonoko, or Conan will come across that bottle of nail polish and wonder if Sera Masumi has any connection to that company.

Also, I've seen the word Sera as part of the name of some wine on a menu at a restaurant recently.
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Jeichan wrote:Has anyone noticed that the name Sera first appeared on that nail polish bottle way back early in the manga during that artist murder case where the murderer tried to make it look like a suicide by jumping from a building?

I wonder if it's likely if Sera has a connection to the makeup company that sold that nail polish (like how Agasa's first love Fusae is the creator of the Fusae brand purses), and I wonder if Ran, Sonoko, or Conan will come across that bottle of nail polish and wonder if Sera Masumi has any connection to that company.

Also, I've seen the word Sera as part of the name of some wine on a menu at a restaurant recently.
Well Aoyama did promise a new BO member... He never said that the member wouldn't become one during a case or anything, could be cool if Sera knows about the org
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Crazy Fan Theory #4,708

I was just lying in bed, about to drift off to sleep, when a bunch of random things jumbled together in my brain. Apologies if this way-out-there theory has already been presented; I just wanted to toss it out before I fell asleep entirely and forgot about it.

Facts:
- Sera and Conan/Shinichi have met at some point in the past.
- Sera and Ran have met at some point in the past.
- Sera had an emotional/tearful reaction to seeing Ran treat Conan like a little brother.
- Sera's brother(s) is/are detective(s).
- Sera returned to Japan from America.
- Shinichi spent considerable time in America, and his parents still live there.
- Sera grew up reading the Night Baron series.
- Shinichi's father wrote the Night Baron series.
- Sera's mother is described as having large breasts.
- Shinichi's mother has large breasts.
- Sera has a second-oldest brother who is presumed dead.
- Shinichi has spread the rumor that he is dead to divert the BO.

Conclusion: Shinichi is Sera's second-oldest brother.

Of course, neither Shinichi nor his parents have ever mentioned his having a sister. And it doesn't really work with Akai in the picture (except that Shinichi clearly trusts him and lets him have free access to his house, so he could be a relative). Still, I thought the parallels were interesting.

(Hey, it's no more unreasonable than my other crazy theory that Shinichi and Kaito are actually twin brothers. I mean, Yukiko was studying under Kuroba Toichi at the time, and it WOULD explain their identical appearance...) ^_^
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"Sera has a second-oldest brother who is presumed dead."

But she talks to her brother in front of Conan...and she knows that shinichi is alive.
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Shinichi Edogawa wrote:
AVA wrote:Crazy Fan Theory #4,708

I was just lying in bed, about to drift off to sleep, when a bunch of random things jumbled together in my brain. Apologies if this way-out-there theory has already been presented; I just wanted to toss it out before I fell asleep entirely and forgot about it.

Facts:
- Sera and Conan/Shinichi have met at some point in the past.
- Sera and Ran have met at some point in the past.
- Sera had an emotional/tearful reaction to seeing Ran treat Conan like a little brother.
- Sera's brother(s) is/are detective(s).
- Sera returned to Japan from America.
- Shinichi spent considerable time in America, and his parents still live there.
- Sera grew up reading the Night Baron series.
- Shinichi's father wrote the Night Baron series.
- Sera's mother is described as having large breasts.
- Shinichi's mother has large breasts.
- Sera has a second-oldest brother who is presumed dead.
- Shinichi has spread the rumor that he is dead to divert the BO.

Conclusion: Shinichi is Sera's second-oldest brother.

Of course, neither Shinichi nor his parents have ever mentioned his having a sister. And it doesn't really work with Akai in the picture (except that Shinichi clearly trusts him and lets him have free access to his house, so he could be a relative). Still, I thought the parallels were interesting.

(Hey, it's no more unreasonable than my other crazy theory that Shinichi and Kaito are actually twin brothers. I mean, Yukiko was studying under Kuroba Toichi at the time, and it WOULD explain their identical appearance...) ^_^
"Sera has a second-oldest brother who is presumed dead."

But she talks to her brother in front of Conan...and she knows that shinichi is alive.
First, Sera's second oldest brother is alive. It's the oldest, Akai, whom Sera thinks is dead. Finally, her second-oldest brother is very unlikely to be Shinichi because she texts the brother Conan's picture and he replies back wearing clothes that Conan was not wearing. Unless Sera has a wrong number and someone is impersonating him it doesn't make any sense. Also the phone doesn't match either of Conan's.
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When DCW gets back online, I suggest checking out the article on the Akai family's middle brother for all the known information and major deductions so far. (Several people contributed to this btw, not just me.)
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Have we seen Shuukichi's phone?

I am still thinking that he is the mysterious brother, he noticed conan and his name is similar to shuichi.
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Shinichi Edogawa wrote:Have we seen Shuukichi's phone?
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...Check. In the future, I will reserve all facetious right-hemisphere brainstorming for a less literal forum. ^_^;

But your serious responses did correct my faulty memory where the second-oldest brother was concerned (I had remembered the bowling alley conversation between Sera and Conan incorrectly), so thanks for putting that right.
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Kleene Onigiri wrote:
Chekhov MacGuffin wrote: Sera Masumi could be her official name if the Akai family took witness protection and then switched the family name up to Sera. Akai Masumi is probably Sera's birth name though.

If WTP is the reason, I guess that would mean Sera Shuuichi.
Another possibility for both names being true names is, when the parents divorced. Then Sera Masumi changed her name for example (like, if she followed her mother or whatever) while Akai stayed Akai? :V
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In chapter 872, which is yet to be translated, while walking in the forest and explaining that she has two older brothers to Ran she says that the three siblings don´t have the same surname. She then tells that "Sera" is her mothers maiden name.

Also a bit teased with when Conan is wondering what the other surname of the three would be, Sonoko from the background says "akai" referring to a person wearing red (akai) she saw.
"Otherwise it would be weird."
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