What's on his neck? File 827+ Discussion

[Fennec]

Actually, a necklace is pretty likely. If it has strong sentimental value, he may not be willing to take it off. At the same time, it might be a trademark item that someone would recognize, such as a favorite of Akemi's that she gave him, or a distinct crucifix (unlikely, but just an example). As pointed out earlier, the voice changer wouldn't specifically prove who he is. It would just prove he's disguising his voice.

[milk_hater]

I know this is obviously unlikely, but what if there isn't anything on his neck and he just doesn't want people looking at his neck. 

[Atraos]

I know this is obviously unlikely, but what if there isn't anything on his neck and he just doesn't want people looking at his neck. 

The fact that, when Haibara suspected him of being disguised, the first thing she did, was try to look at his neck is a pretty tell tale sign that his conceiled neck bears a telltale sign to his identity. I don't know the exact file, but I am sure someone here can give us the link to the precise page where it happened

[Citan]

I think that Haibara was trying to eliminate two birds with one stone. After all there's only two reasons for a person in disguise to hide their neck as Okiya seemed to be doing. Either something is concealed there (Either a necklace, a mark, or some kind of device) or you're a woman impersonating a man, in which case you would need to conceal your neck to hide your lack of an adam's apple. If she found no adam's apple she'd know this was probably Vermouth in disguise. If she found whatever else she was looking for, whether it be a scar, a piece of jewelry, or as I think is most likely, some kind of listening device, she'd conclude this was Moroboshi Dai, whom I believe at the time she wrongly suspected of actually being Bourbon.

[Kudo Shinchi]

I kind of hope it isn't a voice changer, that wouldn't be very interesting. As mentioned before, Haibara finding a voice changer wouldn't really prove Okiya is Dai. There are other things she could have done to figure it out. Also, would a voice changer really work if it's hidden on Okiya's neck. Conan's bowtie only works when it's directly over his mouth, how would one on Akai's neck work? Unless Agasa invented a new one... 

[AICHAN]

Actually, a necklace is pretty likely. If it has strong sentimental value, he may not be willing to take it off. At the same time, it might be a trademark item that someone would recognize, such as a favorite of Akemi's that she gave him, or a distinct crucifix (unlikely, but just an example). As pointed out earlier, the voice changer wouldn't specifically prove who he is. It would just prove he's disguising his voice.

If that was the case,Akai would be wearing it when he was working in the FBI...but we never saw Akai with a necklace.That would be weird to take it off while working and not do the same when he's in deguise.

I still think it's a voice device mostly because the only time he showed his neck,he conveniently didn't speak.
But I prefer the idea of a birthmark or a tatoo.

[Incomplete-tantei]

A voice changer isn't absolutely needed, Akai could have practiced modifying his voice, after all the voice isn't totally different from Akai's...
And yeah if it was only voice changer it doesn't prove it's Akai. While something more specific showing he really is Akai like a necklace (where it's written something like "A&A"...) is likely. Back then Akemi could have offered a present to Akai and Haibara could have been aware of that. And then if she thought "If he's wearing this then it's him." it would make sense why she wanted to take off the scarf.

And I don't understand why are you guys talking as if Haibara thought Okiya = Bourbon? I mean she wasn't aware Bourbon was one the move.. why would she thought of Bourbon just like that. She was thinking Okiya = member of the Org, yep.

@Atraos : http://www.mangareader.net/detective-conan/811/15

@AICHAN : How can you know he wasn't wearing a necklace when he was working in the FBI? Akai's whole neck isn't shown properly. I mean he could have hidden it a little. If it's the case tattoo, brithmark.. anything of those are possible 'cause we saw a little of Akai's neck.

[Nix]

I was pretty sure Haibara was checking to see if Okiya = Dai
I'm not absolutely convinced with the voice changer thing either. A necklace or tattoo seems a bit.. weird for a 'cool' guy like Akai. So I was thinking, perhaps a scar or something.
We can think like this: What is the most distinct thing that one can possibly have on his neck that makes everyone remember him even after 5 years...

[Incomplete-tantei]

I was pretty sure Haibara was checking to see if Okiya = Dai
I'm not absolutely convinced with the voice changer thing either. A necklace or tattoo seems a bit.. weird for a 'cool' guy like Akai. So I was thinking, perhaps a scar or something.
We can think like this: What is the most distinct thing that one can possibly have on his neck that makes everyone remember him even after 5 years...

That's why I can't imagine Akai with a tattoo.. I have to admit the necklace either doesn't "fit" to Akai but I got no other idea of what he can have on his neck :/
The scar sounds weird too. I mean Gin already has a scar... it would be like repeating the same thing with Akai. That has to be personal and original !

[Pandora12]

http://www.dctp.ws/V61-Reader/V61-8Read/A9.html

Okiya raised his arm to stop Ran from hitting his neck, so he must be hiding a voice changing device and he couldn't let Ran break it.

[Kudo Shinchi]

I don't know, I don't think he was raising it, it probably just looks like that from the picture. Right after Ran is seen surprised because, according to her, he didn't do anything to defend himself.

Come to think of it, Ran kicked him right in the neck. If he had something like a voice changer there, wouldn't she have felt it? More so, wouldn't her kick have broken it? Ran doesn't mention feeling anything there, though...

[Pmofmalasia]

I'm leaning towards the voice changer thing now.  It's worth noting that even though he didn't really say anything the page before the scene that Pandora linked, he still took the toothbrush out of his mouth and uttered some words.  When his neck was visible, he kept it in his mouth for whatever reason.  So that suggests to me that whatever it was did have to do with his voice.

As for how the voice changer would prove who he was, that's easy.  If Haibara or Sera were to see it, they'd remove it and have him talk in his normal voice, i.e. Akai's, and recognize him easily.

I don't know, I don't think he was raising it, it probably just looks like that from the picture. Right after Ran is seen surprised because, according to her, he didn't do anything to defend himself.

Come to think of it, Ran kicked him right in the neck. If he had something like a voice changer there, wouldn't she have felt it? More so, wouldn't her kick have broken it? Ran doesn't mention feeling anything there, though...

Agreed that he wasn't raising it, Ran definitely would have noticed some resistance to her kick, but she explicitly states that there was none.  As for where she kicked him, it's kind of hard to tell since it's a bit blurry, but it looks like it might have hit his chest or upper arm, assuming that the white oval at the end of Ran's sock is her foot .  Although he does seem to grab at his chin, there aren't any marks on his face, so maybe he was actually checking to see if it had been broken?

[Kudo Shinchi]

He could have been checking to see if it was broken, but if he was that means Ran probably would have hit, but that should mean Ran that should have felt something there, but she never mentions feeling anything there. Hm...

Akai also wore clothing with collars that covered his neck; it was something he did before even disguising as Okiya. It would make sense that whatever Okiya's hiding, Akai was hiding as well, and is the reason for him always covering his neck, whether he was Akai or disguised as Okiya. I don't see why Akai would be hiding a voice changer.

I mean, I can see the evidence for a voice-changer, but it isn't wholly convincing IMO.

[Chekhov MacGuffin]

Hickey marks -- Yukiko is cheating on Yuusaku.

But really, I think voice changer is not a bad idea although it would have to be more like the "mission impossible neck voice changer" design.

I really commented so that this thread would show up in new replies...

[Pmofmalasia]

He could have been checking to see if it was broken, but if he was that means Ran probably would have hit, but that should mean Ran that should have felt something there, but she never mentions feeling anything there. Hm...

Akai also wore clothing with collars that covered his neck; it was something he did before even disguising as Okiya. It would make sense that whatever Okiya's hiding, Akai was hiding as well, and is the reason for him always covering his neck, whether he was Akai or disguised as Okiya. I don't see why Akai would be hiding a voice changer.

I mean, I can see the evidence for a voice-changer, but it isn't wholly convincing IMO.

It's also possible that the force of her kick moved the voice changer, so he was adjusting it.  She wouldn't necessarily have to have directly hit it for that to happen.  That's a good point about Akai though, but I'm too lazy to go back through all his appearances to look at everything he's worn .  However, wasn't his outfit almost always the same coat?  In that case, it wouldn't be too odd IMO, but for Okiya to exclusively have many different clothes that cover his neck is a bit odd.


EDIT: Thanks to the amazing DC Rewatch project, I noticed that Akai didn't have his neck covered in the flashback (not sure if it's the same in the manga), so if it weren't a voice changer, then it would probably be a scar from leaving the BO or something to remember Akemi by.  Side note, I'm sure there was some sort of epic conflict with Gin we don't know about, if you ask me they have a pretty bitter rivalry for not even having met before Akai was found out.

Hickey marks -- Yukiko is cheating on Yuusaku.

But really, I think voice changer is not a bad idea although it would have to be more like the "mission impossible neck voice changer" design.

I really commented so that this thread would show up in new replies...

She did say that she would way back in that suspicion arc with the magician at ep. ~80, guess she's finally getting around to it