Conan's Passport

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Toast wrote: I thought they did investigate, but Shiho confirmed his death?
could be, but I don't remember things that long ago :P
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The thing is, if there was an Edogawa Conan birth certificate, there'd be no trouble in producing the rest of the papers Conan would need.

Like, for example, a passport.
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El Huesudo II wrote: The thing is, if there was an Edogawa Conan birth certificate, there'd be no trouble in producing the rest of the papers Conan would need.

Like, for example, a passport.
I've thought of a better issue than Conan not existing doesn't the paper work to get a passport take time to go though?  Unless Conan was already supposed to have one. They change is fake back story every time they tell it so I'm not sure if the kid was supposed to have been to the U.S. or not.
What it comes down to is he needed to be 17 to confess and maybe look like he was trying out for a role Kamen Rider W.  No matter how stupid using Shinichi's passport is for not raising BO flags.  They would totally have some sort of hack at airports to read boarding passes or something.
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Well... I doubt they'd be monitoring who goes in or out of the country without good reason.

But as I said: Maybe it's only a matter of time until someone realizes Shinichi is not dead like he's supposed to be. If I were Conan, I'd call every contact I have and tell them "Hey, lemme ask you guys a favor. If anyone asks about me, I'm dead. Yes, you heard me right. It's a case thing, I'll explain later."
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yamiangie wrote: They would totally have some sort of hack at airports to read boarding passes or something.
The only reason I could possibly think of why they would do that is to kill Shiho. Hacking flight rosters is more dangerous than beneficial imo.  
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Toast wrote:
yamiangie wrote: They would totally have some sort of hack at airports to read boarding passes or something.
The only reason I could possibly think of why they would do that is to kill Shiho. Hacking flight rosters is more dangerous than beneficial imo. 
not to mention, the BO may be an international crime syndicate, but that doesn't mean they have their fingers in every pie in the world. They're not omniscient. :P
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Akonyl wrote:
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Akonyl wrote:unless I missed something, the only people who think Shinichi is dead are the Borg, there's no system anywhere that has him legally pronounced as dead. So as long as he's not dead to the legal system, there's no reason for his papers to be invalid, and unless the BO has access to flight rosters, there isn't an issue there.
Maybe you're right.

But still, it's interesting that the BO haven't yet figured out Shinichi is far from being dead.
tbh I think the only reason they haven't yet is because they just trusted the APTX too much. Gin for one probably just thought "well, he's obviously dead now, so now to forget about him just like everyone else I've killed!", whereas if they had one methodical member who took notes, they'd be like "say, there was never a police report published about finding a kid's body in Tropical Land. Shouldn't someone have found his body by now?" which would them spur an investigation into his death.

But as it stands, they probably just think of Shinichi too much as "just another number" to care about investigating him. Remember, Shinichi is only the main character to us, to them, he's practically nothing. :P
Wasn't the whole point of using the Apoptoxin that it WOULDN'T leave a body to find? That it would completely break the person down on a cellular level and thus leave no evidence behind of the deed? So there not being a body just tells them everything went to plan.
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no no no no

the APTX's benefit is that it doesn't leave a detectable trace in the body

whoever examines the cadaver would never find the cause of death.
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Citan wrote: Wasn't the whole point of using the Apoptoxin that it WOULDN'T leave a body to find? That it would completely break the person down on a cellular level and thus leave no evidence behind of the deed? So there not being a body just tells them everything went to plan.
Say, where did you get that information?
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El Huesudo II wrote:Shinichi's death was proven by an agent that later turned out to be a traitor, but her word is not later doubted.
Well, she only betrayed them because they killed her sister. There's no reason for them to suspect anything she did before Akemi's death.
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um, how COnan in the first place can attent the elementary school if he did not have any paperwork? O_o
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orangpelupa wrote: um, how COnan in the first place can attent the elementary school if he did not have any paperwork? O_o
Um, it was mentioned in the anime and manga that Agasa took care of them.
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monsi wrote:
orangpelupa wrote: um, how COnan in the first place can attent the elementary school if he did not have any paperwork? O_o
Um, it was mentioned in the anime and manga that Agasa took care of them.
Yeah, "forged" them or something like that. They probably looked convincing enough to pass. ::)

Passports, on the other hand, aren't easily forged by your average, everyday professor, and are more strictly checked. :P
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Daiko Tantei wrote: I wonder how was Conan able to fly to a beach resort in Chapter 204 due to Agasa winning a raffle.
It's because,based on the anime, the location of the trip that Agasa won is on Okinawa, which is part of Japan.

Furthermore, when travelling within the country, it's not required to have a passport. However, if you're going to another country, that's the time passports are required.

Besides, it's kinda strange for parents to let their kids travel abroad without them.
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aly_angelflight wrote:
monsi wrote:
orangpelupa wrote: um, how COnan in the first place can attent the elementary school if he did not have any paperwork? O_o
Um, it was mentioned in the anime and manga that Agasa took care of them.
Yeah, "forged" them or something like that. They probably looked convincing enough to pass. ::)

Passports, on the other hand, aren't easily forged by your average, everyday professor, and are more strictly checked. :P
I don't know that the kind of paperwork you need to get into elementary school is checked that strictly anyway. Passports however, especially these days, are tricky documents indeed to forge.
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