Discussion Thread: Detective Conan Files 831+

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mihai wrote:
Borealis wrote:
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Takagi is the victim again  :D

Seems like a big case next time
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Heiji looked good in Takagi's suit :).
Also I laughed when Conan remembered being hugged by both Ran and Kazuha. And yes, next case should be a big and awesome one. Did Heizo uncovered something about the BO for Amuro and Okiya to be involved too? Maybe not but it has to be great if we have Heiji and Heizo, Amuro and Okiya as well
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And Takagi looked good in his clothes  ;D
I had the impression he was fantasizing. But I don't understand Japanese or Chinese so I could be wrong.
*waiting for next chapter*
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Honestly? This case is one of those random cases that aren't that interesting for me. Heiji and Conan partnership is something of a tradition by now, and I'm bored by it if there is nothing more interesting. Thankfully, next case should be more entertaining because it may be one with a much larger scale than this one, and with Hanzo's return. Hopefully, also with Kazuha and "other detectives".

And what happened with Amuro and his "I will be back at Poirot again at the beggining of the week"? *time to rant*:

Is he REALLY coming back? Or will Gosho go into an endless loop of cases that takes place on just a few days? I'm confused here. Another thing that annoys me is how Gosho didn't actually finish the Bourbon arc yet. I mean, Bourbon IS STILL THERE. WTF?! A bunch of years and it's still ongoing...seriously. He also left a bunch of unresolved plot points after the end of the mystery train case. That was stupid. Wasn't that case supposed to be the end of the Bourbon arc? I mean, what about Date; Amuro's reasons for hating Akai(and not wanting to kill Sherry); Akai's death; Sera's reasons for suspecting Kogorou/hanging out around Conan, and a bunch of other stuff.
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leokiko wrote:
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Is he REALLY coming back? Or will Gosho go into an endless loop of cases that takes place on just a few days? I'm confused here. Another thing that annoys me is how Gosho didn't actually finish the Bourbon arc yet. I mean, Bourbon IS STILL THERE. WTF?! A bunch of years and it's still ongoing...seriously. He also left a bunch of unresolved plot points after the end of the mystery train case. That was stupid. Wasn't that case supposed to be the end of the Bourbon arc? I mean, what about Date; Amuro's reasons for hating Akai(and not wanting to kill Sherry); Akai's death; Sera's reasons for suspecting Kogorou/hanging out around Conan, and a bunch of other stuff.
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Well, I don't know, dude. We could consider the Bourbon arc to be officially over by now. It ended with quite a blast, really; even though it was already deduced long before (once again: Chek, you're awesome). This might be an entirely new arc, and judging by how there are 2 detectives watching Conan closely, and there's hints at Ran returning as the "suspect Conan" club founder, this could be an entire arc dedicated to Conan being under the magnifying glass.

And, well, the Vermouth arc ended long ago too, and she's still around. Hell, she's not only still around, she's much more active now than she was on her arc. It's likely that the same will happen to Bourbon.

As for the unsolved stuff... Well, we might just have to wait a little bit. I do still want MOAR PLOT RIGHT NOW, though. LOL
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Unresolved stuff from the Vermouth arc were only resolved in the train case, so we can safely say that in about 300 files we can expect the Bourbon unresolved stuff to get resolved too :P
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I just noticed another common trend with Heiji/Conan cases besides the explosion and fire themes: the murders tend to have a theme based on the supernatural or local legends.

-The Spider Mansion
-The Mermaid's Curse
-The Yuki-Onna case from the past
-The Shiragami-sama case
-The Demon Dog case

He even helps the Detective Boys in a case about a supposedly haunted warehouse! To add to that, when he disguised himself as Kudo, it was on a cruise full of people dressed up as monsters and other supernatural creatures.

And apparently, next up is a vampire case. xD
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Kor wrote:
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Unresolved stuff from the Vermouth arc were only resolved in the train case, so we can safely say that in about 300 files we can expect the Bourbon unresolved stuff to get resolved too :P
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What? Vermouth's stuff is FAR from being resolved. All the Mystery Train arc did was to recap all the stuff that's yet to be resolved about her (the entire reason for her traitorous and deceitful behavior and the until-then-unreleased part of the tapes the Miyanos left behind...), and it also added a new one: Vermouth's relationship with Itakura. That one, however, feels more like a weird mix between a preview of future cases and a retcon, IMO.

We've yet to reach any kind of closure to anything related to the BO. I know that their theme is "being mysterious", but when everything related to them in the story is a huge question mark...
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I wouldn't call it a retcon, there's been nothing hinting against it all now so I'd just say it's another plot hint...
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Stopwatch wrote:
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I wouldn't call it a retcon, there's been nothing hinting against it all now so I'd just say it's another plot hint...
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I just say it FEELS like a retcon, but maybe it's because it was a long while since Itakura was last mentioned.
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I had to pause in reading 832 just to comment on the severed head model. "Actually, I just made it to look like my dad." Sounds like a lot of family issues going on there. xD
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Fennec wrote:
Spoiler:
I just noticed another common trend with Heiji/Conan cases besides the explosion and fire themes: the murders tend to have a theme based on the supernatural or local legends.

-The Spider Mansion
-The Mermaid's Curse
-The Yuki-Onna case from the past
-The Shiragami-sama case
-The Demon Dog case

He even helps the Detective Boys in a case about a supposedly haunted warehouse! To add to that, when he disguised himself as Kudo, it was on a cruise full of people dressed up as monsters and other supernatural creatures.

And apparently, next up is a vampire case. xD
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and now Amuro/Okiya/Sera seem to be involved as well along with Conan/Kogoro/Heiji/Heizo. This case is going to be great. now I'm curious where the case will take place, but since Heizo called it might be around Osaka maybe. Also now if Amuro really shows up Conan will inform Heiji about him  being Bourbon.
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mihai wrote:
Fennec wrote:
Spoiler:
I just noticed another common trend with Heiji/Conan cases besides the explosion and fire themes: the murders tend to have a theme based on the supernatural or local legends.

-The Spider Mansion
-The Mermaid's Curse
-The Yuki-Onna case from the past
-The Shiragami-sama case
-The Demon Dog case

He even helps the Detective Boys in a case about a supposedly haunted warehouse! To add to that, when he disguised himself as Kudo, it was on a cruise full of people dressed up as monsters and other supernatural creatures.

And apparently, next up is a vampire case. xD
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and now Amuro/Okiya/Sera seem to be involved as well along with Conan/Kogoro/Heiji/Heizo. This case is going to be great. now I'm curious where the case will take place, but since Heizo called it might be around Osaka maybe. Also now if Amuro really shows up Conan will inform Heiji about him  being Bourbon.
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Heizo said the case is in Tokyo, he requested Otaki who is in Tokyo because this is not his jurisdiction. I also hope Amuro/Okiya/Sera may appear at least one of them, Amuro had higher chance since he is working Poirot downstairs, Conan and other may have breakfast in Poirot and discuss a new case, then Amuro shows interest and decides to go with them.

But Amuro is Bourbon, if Heiji meets him, Heiji may get targeted by BO too, Gosho may not let this happen now.
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Conan324 wrote: Kogoro's "it takes the two of you" remark was strange, does he now knows that conan is the brilliant detective?
Wasn't he referring to Hattori and 'Kudou'...?
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I think Kogoro was just mocking them like usual. "When I solve the case I don't need any help, but amateurs like you and Kudo depend on each other just to figure out how to use an elevator."
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If Amuro really tags along, Heiji would be in trouble. I think Gosho wouldn't want that to happen (yet). Imagine Bourbon checking out Vodka's report on the ghost ship and knew that Heiji had disguised as Shinichi before?
I have a strong feeling that the "detectives" in the next case will only be Heiji and Conan, as usual.
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Cider wrote:
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I have a strong feeling that the "detectives" in the next case will only be Heiji and Conan, as usual.
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