Mafia! Mafia! Mafia! Character Role Discussions

[Kleene Onigiri]

I thought we were going to make JKD a "heal"? Or is it a protection but uses rules of heal :x

What's the difference? :V

Sniping was usually the difference, bust since Sera uses "protect"/"heal" on herself anyway, it doesn't matter much? XD

[pofa]

The difference would probably be the investigation/stakeout keyword, I guess? Maybe people wanted it to be a heal so the healers could hide better?

That, and there is no "heal" action that lets you learn the attacker's name as of now.

[KangarooGirl]

I guess if it's not going to show up on SO anyway (and if it does, since it isn't investigatable I think it shouldn't) I guess it doesn't matter what the keyword is anyway :x :x :x

[Iwamoto Yuri]

just one question...
why is the (not knowing the) result of interrogation added..?
I thought it was obvious she wouldn't be able to see if the person she follows is Bo or not...

[aly_angelflight]

just one question...
why is the (not knowing the) result of interrogation added..?
I thought it wears obvious she wouldn't be able to see if the person she follows is Bo or not...

Just to make it clear that stalk will only give gender/age/item for results, I suppose. ^^;

[Iwamoto Yuri]

it's clearly said she can do just that...
i just added her being unable to catch a scent because stalk is similar to Haibara's follow... (only instead of scents, she kinda observes the target and sees what his age/gender is or what objects he/she has on him)

[Kleene Onigiri]

just one question...
why is the (not knowing the) result of interrogation added..?
I thought it was obvious she wouldn't be able to see if the person she follows is Bo or not...

Didn't you add that? O_o

But explaining more about actions is better than not explaining enough.
Through all those rounds I always saw someone who were confused about rules :V

[pofa]

Please discuss:

Anokata, Mafia Boss
Status: BO Leader
Day Action: Give Suitcase
Night Action: None...except...

This one I'm going to incorporate into Round 49 unless I get a unanimous backlash or something. Basically, I'm tired of trying to figure out an ability to give Anokata to make him not useless and crappy. So instead of doing that, I'm going to remove the role altogether and replace it--with any one of the town roles that already exist.

Basically, I'm saying that Anokata can be (almost) literally anyone in the game. You'll get your role in prep or N1 as usual. Say you're Conan--you'll get your PM with your actions, your observe status, your items, etc. But your PM will also say something along the lines of "You're Anokata!" and list the BO for you. You, Conan, WILL gain access to the BO board. You WILL be able to kill, APTX, and give out the suitcase. You are NOT in disguise; you actually are Conan, can use his actions, and can be interrogated, observed, and ID'd as such. But you're also the leader of the BO.

1)You will have items, probably a gun and maybe alcohol added to your inventory.
2)You will be able to be DB-identified as your role AND as Anokata.
3)Kills and crimes you have committed will show up as normal, and this will be important because in return for doing this to the town, I'm going to remove Blame from the game. So arrests/CE's/SIs/investigations can be trusted. But anyone could be Anokata.

Anyone...except DBs, Sonoko, and Yumi, because I can't figure out how to make that fair. :/ If you have a way to do so, you could suggest it though.

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So after doing this, I need some Vermouth suggestions. How can I make her not be a suckier Anokata? If it comes down to it, I'll just leave out Vermouth this round, because I really, really want to try this Anokata thing. But I hate to do that.

[KangarooGirl]

I like the Anokata idea and I like how you took away blame to counter the fact that Anokata-Eisuke won't be able to be caught unless with a kill inv/arrest.

For Vermouth, my suggestion is to make her like Irish and give her choices of who to disguise as the rest of the game. So you can control who she's disguised as to not OP the BO (perhaps just a choice of 3) and to be fair, do the same for KID.

[pofa]

Yeah, that was another thing--I'll obviously take into account who Anokata is and what powers he has when I'm balancing the strength of the BO.

[PT]

Maybe make her similar to Irish, but not the same? Make her temp disguises longer... Where Irish would being disguised N1 only (N2, N3, etc); make Vermouth have one disguise N1-D3 (able to use day actions and everything, then starting N4, she moves on to a second disguise?

Irish is good because he can work through a variety of abilities quickly and gather different sorts of intel, but has a harder time blending in since he changes actions so quickly, leaving him to only be Irish or Yukiko. For Vermouth, blending in would be easier, but she has less varied abilities due to having her disguises for longer.

I dunno. Just a suggestion.

Or you could just make Vermy/Irish/Kid/Yukiko all choose costumes + temp disguise, yeah.

[Kleene Onigiri]

Without blame, wouldn't CE be a lot stronger too now? (is CE in? XD)

Maybe give Vermy the freedom to put her disguise on and off whenever she wants (but still has a crime from the beginning). But not like Irish, she doesn't loose her disguise once she takes it off (but can disguise as the same role again later)
To not make it too powerful, she has to keep a disguise 2 phases long once she put it on, but can put disguises back on without delay.
Maybe this, added with the choosing which role she can disguise as. Or she has 2 set roles she has from the start (and it doesn't change once it's used like Irish's one)

[Iwamoto Yuri]

I like that Kleene, overall the idea sounds good :3

[Stopwatch]

Maybe not getting to choose her own costume though...

-Anokata: I have a new idea
-Killing actions: Yes or no?
-APTX: Set amount or rechargeable?
-BM: Do we like it?
-Are there any roles that people hate so much that it would make you feel better if we removed them until we figure out how to make them more fun? *looks at Kogoro, Pisco, etc.*

Let's see. While I prefer the current Anokata because he has the ultimate infiltrating role if played correctly I get your point about how no action has stuck for him so trying out something new could be useful. So, yes.
KA, I like them, but most others don't D:. It'll probably end up with them still out I guess.
APTX, rechargeable all the way for me. Both ways the BO have incentive to get the current APTX, but if there's only a set amount then the BO can lose out because they figured out roles earlier on. I think if they figure out the right roles in (most) circumstances they should be able to get them renewed.
And I love the BM. I'd like it kept in if possible.

[Kleene Onigiri]

Maybe not getting to choose her own costume though...

Ah, meant it, like she also get's a list like Irish and can choose one of them (or is that what you meant too?)