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Yeah, it's Sera. Kid is just being damn obvious here. He obviously thought Sera was a man because of the "Is it all right for me to be in your group?" comment. Also the "Let's go by age, i'm the oldest" comment seems quite suspicious. Either he's using his own age, assuming that Kid is older than Ran and Sonoko, or he's assuming Sera is a fully of age licenced detective, and not also a highschool student. As for the erm... clothes. We've seen that Kid doesn't always steal clothes. He has before simply brought his own matching outfit to the person he's going to disguse as, so it's entirely possible he didn't actually steal her clothes, and thus would not have seen her... erm... physique...
As for Ran and Sonoko? Kid has already done Ran once already, and it nearly got him brutally murdered by Shinichi via soccerball to the face. I don't think he'll use her again. He got his kicks using her to prank him once, but while he may be a trickster, we've seen that he respects Shinichi. I think he'd refrain from disguising as her again. And Sonoko? Well... she's not that lucky.
"There is only one truth. It is neither kind nor unkind. It just is." - Kudo Shinichi
Yeah, it's Sera. Kid is just being damn obvious here. He obviously thought Sera was a man because of the "Is it all right for me to be in your group?" comment. Also the "Let's go by age, i'm the oldest" comment seems quite suspicious. Either he's using his own age, assuming that Kid is older than Ran and Sonoko, or he's assuming Sera is a fully of age licenced detective, and not also a highschool student. As for the erm... clothes. We've seen that Kid doesn't always steal clothes. He has before simply brought his own matching outfit to the person he's going to disguse as, so it's entirely possible he didn't actually steal her clothes, and thus would not have seen her... erm... physique...
As for Ran and Sonoko? Kid has already done Ran once already, and it nearly got him brutally murdered by Shinichi via soccerball to the face. I don't think he'll use her again. He got his kicks using her to prank him once, but while he may be a trickster, we've seen that he respects Shinichi. I think he'd refrain from disguising as her again. And Sonoko? Well... she's not that lucky.
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Or she really is a flat as a board and he never noticed, ZING! Erm yeah anyways the time he used Ran he had an exact dress stashed away, im guessing its the same here?
I really, REALLY wanted Sonoko to be Kid. But no, it's Sera. (Also: Sera's underwear is pretty borderline-not-feminine. WTF Sera, if we didn't know your gender you'd be the Pat of the show!)
The conclusion of this case is pretty lackluster...
...well, who knows. Maybe the dialog in that last part is pretty good, but seeing that I can't read Chinese, I can't really take full advantage of the current leak.
What I don't get is, didn't they check Sera? Or did they check in a way that wouldn't give Kid away, completely destroying the point of doing a check? They only seemed to pat Sera down. Did they think that would give Kid away? All this when they could just pinch his cheek? This is a recurring problem with Kid cases. Just off the top of my head, the Kirin's Horn case also could have been solved if everyone had gone through body checks, but that didn't happen. What's up with that? I know Gosho goes out of his way to let Kid escape each time (I again refer to the agonizing conclusion of the Kirin's Horn case) but he should at least be logical about it.
Sera technically was pinched earlier, but everyone missed her going to the toilets and 'coming back' so they saw no need for her to be checked so thoroughly again, I guess...?
What I'm more annoyed about is the fact that apparently Sera went into the male toilets because the female ones were full... I mean, what?
Terry Pratchett wrote:
The trouble with having an open mind, of course, is that people will insist on coming along and trying to put things in it.
bash7353 wrote:I kind of always assumed that Haneda's parents might've had names.
Sera technically was pinched earlier, but everyone missed her going to the toilets and 'coming back' so they saw no need for her to be checked so thoroughly again, I guess...?
What I'm more annoyed about is the fact that apparently Sera went into the male toilets because the female ones were full... I mean, what?
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Eh I guess if you're going to get mistaken for a guy all the time, might as well take advantage of it? . Or its a cheap reason the author gave to have Kid mistaken her for a dude.
On the site with the Chinese spoilers, there's a colored version of Sera that gives her pink strawberry-patterned underwear. xD
Anyways, 830 chapter explains Jirokichi's strange behavior. Apparently HE stole the turtle, though I don't know why. We'll have to wait for the translation on that one, I guess. Kid probably suggested the pat-down because for once, he didn't actually HAVE the jewel. I admit, having everyone's cheeks pinched is logical, but I think Conan would much prefer to identify Kid by some minor slip or oddity in his personality or actions. ^_^ Also, apparently Kid mistook Sera for a boy because she went to the boys' bathroom. ._. I'm just gonna guess she really had to go and didn't want to go all the way upstairs.
Also, next case has the long-awaited return of Heiji!
Fun fact: Sera apparently likes reeeaaally tight boyshorts. (At least, I think that's what they were; I'm not an underwear expert...)
Personally, I'm a little upset that the only comeuppance Kid got was a kick to the face. He deserved so much worse than just that...
I did enjoy the chapter. Though that was mostly because the last two or three pages had me cracking up laughing. You can say I have a crude sense of humor if you wish, but Sera kicking Kid in the face while he was disguised as her and she wore nothing but her underwear...I absolutely loved it! (And now everyone on the forum thinks I'm insane...)
Saitoh-Hajime wrote:
ya know it makes me really angry needing to click endlessly here.
why? When i open this link i am prepared for theories, why is it hidden never the less?
just a remark, i needed to say out loud.
Because there are a lot of people out there who don't want to spoil the file for themselves before it's released in English. By using spoiler tags, people who for some reason end up in this topic and who aren't prepared for the spoilers, don't get spoiled. It's explained in the first post of this topic to use spoiler tags too...
Terry Pratchett wrote:
The trouble with having an open mind, of course, is that people will insist on coming along and trying to put things in it.
bash7353 wrote:I kind of always assumed that Haneda's parents might've had names.
While I don't want to post an overall opinion about this case without reading the last file translated, I didn't like Sera in it at all (and I don't usually find her annoying). Kid also seemed somewhat worse than usual (and I don't normally dislike Kid cases)
Well, if you don't like Kid, then this chapter should be considered pretty good. I mean, he got a flying kick to the face by Sera—and you know that's GOT to hurt more than Conan's soccer balls. xD
Come to think of it, I'm suddenly wondering how she'll react to the news that Akai's alive. I mean, will she be happy, sad, or downright furious? He has a bit to worry about for their reunion. xD
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. Or its a cheap reason the author gave to have Kid mistaken her for a dude.
