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Question: does Kid know Sera's a girl?

When he first saw her on the train—if at all—she was in her original guy-ish outfit; no skirt. Nakamori mistook her for a boy when they met, so her guyish demeanor definitely remains. As such, Kid may make the same mistake, and it's possible that Sonoko, if she is actually Kid, was referring to the boy's bathroom. As a guy, Kid would notice a crowded boy's room, and as a friend, Sonoko would point such a thing out. Being a girl, Ran wouldn't notice the boy's room being crowded, even if she weren't distracted by the exhibits and really had to go.

Sera's boyishness may crack this case wide open.
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Fennec wrote: Question: does Kid know Sera's a girl?

When he first saw her on the train—if at all—she was in her original guy-ish outfit; no skirt. Nakamori mistook her for a boy when they met, so her guyish demeanor definitely remains. As such, Kid may make the same mistake, and it's possible that Sonoko, if she is actually Kid, was referring to the boy's bathroom. As a guy, Kid would notice a crowded boy's room, and as a friend, Sonoko would point such a thing out. Being a girl, Ran wouldn't notice the boy's room being crowded, even if she weren't distracted by the exhibits and really had to go.

Sera's boyishness may crack this case wide open.
I checked the train case and unless I am missing a pronoun, Sera's gender wasn't implied in any of the scenes she was in front of Kid. Sonoko did seem to object to Sera being called a "son" by Nakamori. However, if Nakamori used "小子" (Check me on this someone with a Japanese version to refer to) it means "little child" which is gender ambiguous unlike "son". Sera didn't exactly correct Nakamori either. So, it could be the clue that cracks the case...
If so, I hope Sera gives the same treatment she gave to Nakamori to Kid as well.
Edit: Now that you mentioned it, I wonder if Okiya presumed that Sera was a girl in the case where they met...
Double Edit: Sera wore a skirt in that case, so there was no way for Okiya to mess up.
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Chekhov MacGuffin wrote: Edit: Now that you mentioned it, I wonder if Okiya presumed that Sera was a girl in the case where they met...
Double Edit: Sera wore a skirt in that case, so there was no way for Okiya to mess up.
What does Sera's clothing have to do with Okiya identifying her gender? All he has to do is recognize who she is... :-X
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aly_angelflight wrote:
Chekhov MacGuffin wrote: Edit: Now that you mentioned it, I wonder if Okiya presumed that Sera was a girl in the case where they met...
Double Edit: Sera wore a skirt in that case, so there was no way for Okiya to mess up.
What does Sera's clothing have to do with Okiya identifying her gender? All he has to do is recognize who she is... :-X
I was thinking about the same thing too. After all, he's supposed to know her.
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aly_angelflight wrote:
Chekhov MacGuffin wrote: Edit: Now that you mentioned it, I wonder if Okiya presumed that Sera was a girl in the case where they met...
Double Edit: Sera wore a skirt in that case, so there was no way for Okiya to mess up.
What does Sera's clothing have to do with Okiya identifying her gender? All he has to do is recognize who she is... :-X
But if he is trying to pretend not to know her, he might tip her off if he knows she is female from the start and refers to her that way, since Sera is probably used to Japanese people mistaking her gender. Sera doesn't give him the chance to make that mistake by wearing a skirt. It's the same principle that made James Black's familiarity with Sera suspect; he knew she was female from the get-go so he's suspicious.
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Chekhov MacGuffin wrote: It's the same principle that made James Black's familiarity with Sera suspect; he knew she was female from the get-go so he's suspicious.
I never thought that this would make him suspicious... Thinking back, that makes sense. Every character thought that Sera was a boy, including Megure. When James Black recognised her as a female, he said that it may be because of his age i believe? Back then i bought that. But you may be correct
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D. wrote:
Chekhov MacGuffin wrote: It's the same principle that made James Black's familiarity with Sera suspect; he knew she was female from the get-go so he's suspicious.
I never thought that this would make him suspicious... Thinking back, that makes seance. Every character thought that Sera was a boy, including Megure. When James Black recognised her as a female, he said that it may be because of his age i believe? Back then i bought that. But you may be correct
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Yukiko Kudo wrote:
D. wrote:
Chekhov MacGuffin wrote: It's the same principle that made James Black's familiarity with Sera suspect; he knew she was female from the get-go so he's suspicious.
I never thought that this would make him suspicious... Thinking back, that makes seance. Every character thought that Sera was a boy, including Megure. When James Black recognised her as a female, he said that it may be because of his age i believe? Back then i bought that. But you may be correct
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I would hope Kid would have sharper eyes than most people. Also he spends a lot of time with a flat chested hot tempered girl who doesn't have a lick of fashion sense. 
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yamiangie wrote: I would hope Kid would have sharper eyes than most people. Also he spends a lot of time with a flat chested hot tempered girl who doesn't have a lick of fashion sense. 
But Sera has a manlier voice.

Hell, she has a manlier voice than EISUKE.

Both of them are the androgynous little siblings. Oh god.
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El Huesudo II wrote:
yamiangie wrote: I would hope Kid would have sharper eyes than most people. Also he spends a lot of time with a flat chested hot tempered girl who doesn't have a lick of fashion sense. 
But Sera has a manlier voice.

Hell, she has a manlier voice than EISUKE.

Both of them are the androgynous little siblings. Oh god.
Calm down Sera's a replacement for that one girl from The Detective Koshien.  Also Gosho seems to like girls that could kick a man's ass.  I'm now not going to think to hard about shipping people based on who their voice actors played in previous roles.  You'll have to talk me out of thinking Sera's going to steal Shinichi from Ran. 
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El Huesudo II wrote:
yamiangie wrote: I would hope Kid would have sharper eyes than most people. Also he spends a lot of time with a flat chested hot tempered girl who doesn't have a lick of fashion sense. 
But Sera has a manlier voice.

Hell, she has a manlier voice than EISUKE.

Both of them are the androgynous little siblings. Oh god.
Oh my gosh, you're right. Eisuke is more feminine than Sera and Sera's more masculine than Eisuke. If they swapped sexes, they'd be the epitome of femininity and masculinity. xD
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Fennec wrote:
El Huesudo II wrote:
yamiangie wrote: I would hope Kid would have sharper eyes than most people. Also he spends a lot of time with a flat chested hot tempered girl who doesn't have a lick of fashion sense. 
But Sera has a manlier voice.

Hell, she has a manlier voice than EISUKE.

Both of them are the androgynous little siblings. Oh god.
Oh my gosh, you're right. Eisuke is more feminine than Sera and Sera's more masculine than Eisuke. If they swapped sexes, they'd be the epitome of femininity and masculinity. xD
Haha very funny
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