Discussion Thread: Detective Conan Files 825-827 "Tennis Mee

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El Huesudo II wrote: To be quite honest, I'd prefer it if Kogoro finds Conan's secret out before Ran does.

Not only this would be hilarious in itself, but it would lend itself to many more hilarious moments.

Just imagine it: Kogoro suddenly becoming overzealous about being a great detective in his own terms (and messing up more because of this) because he doesn't want to lose to a kid (even 17-year-old-form Shinichi is a kid in his eyes anyway!). Kogoro more actively trying to kick out Conan from the investigation sites just so he doesn't steal the spotlight. Kogoro later trying to secretly conference with Conan when he realizes he can't make heads or tails of a case.

Worse: Kogoro freaking out along Conan when Heiji calls him Kudo. Kogoro changing his boasts for nervous laughter when someone reminds him of his fame. Kogoro freaking out at the threat of any moment that could be interpreted as Ran and Shinichi (as Conan) being intimate together, even if by accident.

And even better: Kogoro being actively involved in BO cases and being badass while doing so.

This would please me a helluva lot.
Maybe something like this:
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Kogoro : "I know who you really are, brat!"
Conan : "...Oh?"
Kogoro : "You're that Kudo punk!"
Conan : "...And?"
Kogoro : "...And you've been helping me solve my cases, so I can't tell anyone who you really are without destroying my own reputation!"
Conan : "Very good! You really are improving as a detective!"
Kogoro : "Damn you, kid. Damn you straight to hell."
Conan : "If you think you hate me now, wait until I marry Ran and become your Son-In-Law."
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Yeah, sorta like that. I doubt canon Conan would be that snarky at the moment of his cover being blown, but yeah.
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is it me or is a spoon should be there in last panel?
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kuro_shiro wrote: is it me or is a spoon should be there in last panel?
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You don't necessarily need a spoon to eat an ice cream cake, though. :-\
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aly_angelflight wrote:
kuro_shiro wrote: is it me or is a spoon should be there in last panel?
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You don't necessarily need a spoon to eat an ice cream cake, though. :-\
I would use only a spoon instead of a fork and knife for an ice cream cake :)
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If the ice cream cake is solid enough, I'd love a fork and knife too, you know.

However, yeah. Let's remember that Aoyama-sensei doesn't tolerate eccentricities or odd personal preferences (most of the time) and that his character's detection often depends on the simplest path and the most common/popular choices/courses of action/decisions/etc.

Now the question is...

...what does Aoyama-sensei use to eat ice cream cake?




(I really doubt the trick requires a spoon. I really, really, really doubt it.)
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mihai wrote:
aly_angelflight wrote:
kuro_shiro wrote: is it me or is a spoon should be there in last panel?
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You don't necessarily need a spoon to eat an ice cream cake, though. :-\
I would use only a spoon instead of a fork and knife for an ice cream cake :)
me too . :)

the thing is if ice cream cake is big enough to satisfy the fatty  ishiguri then ishiguri would know that it would melt (no matter how strong AC was)before he could finish and he should have brought spoon.

and  the knife is extremely suspicious to me.  after all what kind of guy would even think of using it while eating alone and forget the spoon? 
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I was wondering if any1's noticed how indifferent amuro is acting with mouri, sort of pushing him out the picture while complimenting conan at the same time.
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secretbeauty101 wrote: I was wondering if any1's noticed how indifferent amuro is acting with mouri, sort of pushing him out the picture while complimenting conan at the same time.
Oh god, you're right.

I'm scared.
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El Huesudo II wrote:
secretbeauty101 wrote: I was wondering if any1's noticed how indifferent amuro is acting with mouri, sort of pushing him out the picture while complimenting conan at the same time.
Oh god, you're right.

I'm scared.
We might get a Amuro-Conan confrontation/sign-off like the last Eisuke case in the next File, Amuro is basically at a similar level of Conan understanding(and like Eisuke would think Conan=Shinichi is impossible only because they don't know APTX's side effect, last panel) and the shocking re-apperance after a huge incident in which they reveal their true identity part is similar for both Eisuke and Amuro as well.
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ShinRan4ver wrote:
El Huesudo II wrote:
secretbeauty101 wrote: I was wondering if any1's noticed how indifferent amuro is acting with mouri, sort of pushing him out the picture while complimenting conan at the same time.
Oh god, you're right.

I'm scared.
We might get a Amuro-Conan confrontation/sign-off like the last Eisuke case in the next File, Amuro is basically at a similar level of Conan understanding(and like Eisuke would think Conan=Shinichi is impossible only because they don't know APTX's side effect, last panel) and the shocking re-apperance after a huge incident in which they reveal their true identity part is similar for both Eisuke and Amuro as well.
Well yeah... But this time it's not a potential strong ally. It's a freaking BO member.

And it's not gonna be a sign-off, because he stated he's coming back to work.

Holy flipping tables, what's gonna happen.
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El Huesudo II wrote:
ShinRan4ver wrote:
El Huesudo II wrote:
secretbeauty101 wrote: I was wondering if any1's noticed how indifferent amuro is acting with mouri, sort of pushing him out the picture while complimenting conan at the same time.
Oh god, you're right.

I'm scared.
We might get a Amuro-Conan confrontation/sign-off like the last Eisuke case in the next File, Amuro is basically at a similar level of Conan understanding(and like Eisuke would think Conan=Shinichi is impossible only because they don't know APTX's side effect, last panel) and the shocking re-apperance after a huge incident in which they reveal their true identity part is similar for both Eisuke and Amuro as well.
Well yeah... But this time it's not a potential strong ally. It's a freaking BO member.

And it's not gonna be a sign-off, because he stated he's coming back to work.

Holy flipping tables, what's gonna happen.
Yeah, especially in my opinion Amuro is haughty.
Come back to the case, did anyone also noticed that Kotone have never mentioned that she came with Machi to the Ishiguri’s room? From what she said I assumed that she had been there only one time and it was the very same time with Machi. However Kotone said, that she got the answer from victim when according to Machi Ishiguri didn’t give any response.
From the position of body the culprit before leaving the room probably put the body lay on his left side so that will explain the strange position of the hands.
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lethiminhkhuyen wrote:
El Huesudo II wrote:
ShinRan4ver wrote:
El Huesudo II wrote:
secretbeauty101 wrote: I was wondering if any1's noticed how indifferent amuro is acting with mouri, sort of pushing him out the picture while complimenting conan at the same time.
Oh god, you're right.

I'm scared.
We might get a Amuro-Conan confrontation/sign-off like the last Eisuke case in the next File, Amuro is basically at a similar level of Conan understanding(and like Eisuke would think Conan=Shinichi is impossible only because they don't know APTX's side effect, last panel) and the shocking re-apperance after a huge incident in which they reveal their true identity part is similar for both Eisuke and Amuro as well.
Well yeah... But this time it's not a potential strong ally. It's a freaking BO member.

And it's not gonna be a sign-off, because he stated he's coming back to work.

Holy flipping tables, what's gonna happen.
From what she [Kotone] said I assumed that she had been there only one time and it was the very same time with Machi.
No, she went up twice--once before lunch by herself and once after lunch with Machi.

Spoiler: Order of Events
Ishiguri and Conan go up to Ishiguri's room together. (1)
Kotone goes upstairs to check if Ishiguri really doesn't want to eat with them. She gets a response from him. (2)
People downstairs help prepare lunch. (3)
Ran and Sonoko go up to Ishiguri's room to give Conan his portion of the lunch. They don't get a response. (4)
Everyone but Conan and Ishiguri eats lunch downstairs. (5)
Everyone helped clean up after lunch. Ran and Sonoko helped Noboru put the trash in his truck. (6)
Kotone, Ran, and Sonoko took a shower. (7)
Machi went upstairs to tell Ishiguri that she was taking a shower. She got no response, and also felt the AC was on. (8)
Machi took a shower and then helped the girls with their grip tapes. (9)
Kotone and Machi went upstairs together to check on Ishiguri. They got no answer and thought he was asleep. (10)
Everyone was downstairs and heard a loud sound. Conan woke up. (11)

Noboru went upstairs sometime between (6) and (11) and didn't get a response from Ishiguri either. (He likely went around (7), but that's just a guesstimate.)
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Strange that the Chinese link wasn't posted here yet:
Spoiler: What's been translated so far
Conan#1:
Page 4:
Amuro "What are you doing Conan-kun?"
Conan: "Ah, my watch cover is broken..."
Conan: It's really unable to make Sleeping Kogoru appeared in front of him after all, since he is Black Organization member Bourbon.""If I am Kudou Shinichi who took a drug and shrunken to a child is getting exposed, even Vermouth may still remain silent, but the incident of Haibara also shrunken to a child may end up exposed too.

HADAA:
Last page:
Amuro: Yes. The case is solved. Thanks to Detective Mouri...
Vermouth: Oh yeah? By the way, how much longer do you plan to stick with that Detective (Mouri)? Since you suspected Sherry had something to do with that Detective due to that case involving Kir and wanted to follow him, I have helped you a lot as well. There's no need (to continue), is there?
Vermouth, in the bath: Thanks to luck, you have obtained info about Sherry, and that Sherry has been buried in that train.
Amuro: No, someone just suddenly piqued my interest... That "Detective" called Sleeping Kogorou, that is...

Conan#1:
Last page side note: Amuro (Bourbon) shown interest on which target...Next Issue, A series with Kaito Kid's appearance!!
Spoiler: thoughts on what I saw
I don't know what you said, Conan, but whatever it was was stupid. -A- Amuro totally suspects you now...
But don't worry! WE'VE GOT A KID CASE TO HELP COVER UP YOUR INTELLIG-OH WAIT

*sob* I'm not normally one that minds Kid cases, but the placement on this one is downright mean. Also: WHERE IS HEIJI? It's about that time again and he hasn't shown up
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Spoiler:
Conan is 100% screwed unless Bourbon's loyalty is questionable, btw I bet the two head Kogoro panesl will be the promo
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