Discussion Thread: Detective Conan Files 825-827 "Tennis Mee

[ShinRan4ver]

Spoiler: Crack theory

when conan slept soundly , ishiguri turned off AC. conan's alter ego got way annoyed and used the "death bringer ability" on him. finishing him off with a vase so conan will not be suspected .

but if he did that, shinigami-Conan could've turned the AC back on too , or he just woke Conan up to see the body?

One of my favorite outrageous and can't be true theories:
Conan have another personality that operates when the main personality is asleep, and that personality is in fact Anokata. Yes, I just said that Conan=Anokata Episode 650 anyone

[Meramu]

Well, that's a stupid question, but why didn't the vase break? Shouldn't the impact with the head be strong enough? if it is even a vase made out of metal, there wasn't even a dent. Also the awkward placement of the vase, maybe it wasn't the murder weapon, and was just placed there so that the first thing that pops into one's head is that it is, maybe the culprit smeared some blood onto it...

Also, something confusing me about this case is why blonde woman removed the grip things off her racket, especially if she gets clammy hands? Did she drop the racket on purpose? maybe she was planning to hit a kid, have him go to ishugiri's room, so that when he wakes up, he makes a normal child's reaction and screams, the people in the house would push open the door, destroy an important piece of evidence.

I don't know what's up with the AC, but i think it probably has sth to do with the Ice cream cake, since why would Gosho bother specifying it as an Ice-cream cake otherwise..

So that's it BTW, Hey guys, i'm new here

[HeiseiHolmes]

I believe its Amuro's time to shine

[mihai]

Well, that's a stupid question, but why didn't the vase break? Shouldn't the impact with the head be strong enough? if it is even a vase made out of metal, there wasn't even a dent. Also the awkward placement of the vase, maybe it wasn't the murder weapon, and was just placed there so that the first thing that pops into one's head is that it is, maybe the culprit smeared some blood onto it...

well, maybe because it's made of solid glass, but Gosho did kill people with glass ashtrays before. In the example that came to my mind, a guy killed his wife because she said to throw away his toy minicar collection and that all his money will be hers if he were to die, like he couldn't just divorce her(he framed Eri with the crime that time I remember)

also the heat plays a major part in the current case since the AC was mentioned like that

[kuro_shiro]

Spoiler: Crack theory

when conan slept soundly , ishiguri turned off AC. conan's alter ego got way annoyed and used the "death bringer ability" on him. finishing him off with a vase so conan will not be suspected .

but if he did that, shinigami-Conan could've turned the AC back on too , or he just woke Conan up to see the body?

thinking again ...
at first shinigami-conan used his ability to turn on the ac but ishiguri noticed and turned it off again so  shinigami-conan killed him with the vase so conan will not be suuspected. but the impact was strong enough to wake up conan's sleeping personalty(the original one) .so shinigami conan didn't get the chance to turn ac again

[kuro_shiro]

Well, that's a stupid question, but why didn't the vase break? Shouldn't the impact with the head be strong enough? if it is even a vase made out of metal, there wasn't even a dent.

gosho has done wierder things. latest being : giving sera and conan power to break the chainlock in mystery train case.

Also the awkward placement of the vase, maybe it wasn't the murder weapon, and was just placed there so that the first thing that pops into one's head is that it is, maybe the culprit smeared some blood onto it...

that may be true but in my opinion culprit has placed murder weapon there so police will rule it as accident when they will be unable to solve the case.
if vase is not the weapon then actual weapon can expose the identity of culprit and can even serve as proof.
 

Also, something confusing me about this case is why blonde woman removed the grip things off her racket, especially if she gets clammy hands? Did she drop the racket on purpose? maybe she was planning to hit a kid, have him go to ishugiri's room, so that when he wakes up, he makes a normal child's reaction and screams, the people in the house would push open the door, destroy an important piece of evidence.

a well planed murder and and a random kid in the room.
first line of thought is that either she is the murderer  or
the trick could not have been performed in the other room and murderer could not make conan go to other room.

given the information on house , both are equally likely

I don't know what's up with the AC, but i think it probably has sth to do with the Ice cream cake, since why would Gosho bother specifying it as an Ice-cream cake otherwise..

nah, that's too much thinking . it was just a random reason given to separate ishiguri.

[livvlaughlovee]

Well, that's a stupid question, but why didn't the vase break? Shouldn't the impact with the head be strong enough? if it is even a vase made out of metal, there wasn't even a dent.

gosho has done wierder things. latest being : giving sera and conan power to break the chainlock in mystery train case.

Well, Sera is trained in Jeet Kune Do...
._.
I think it's quite possible for them to be able to break the deadbolt.

it has to be something, thinking the murderer planned for Conan to wake up at the right time. If not, then Conan was partially awake because of the heat and the noise of the vase falling was all it took to wake up -> the heat is involved again

But then isn't the murderer betting a bit too much on chance? I mean, I get the heat and all, and it probably did play a part in the murder (chekhov's gun, anyone?), but what were the chances of Conan getting knocked out, and being there in the first place? Unless, of course, it was the lady who knocked him out originally, which makes sense. o_o

[Chekhov MacGuffin]

Maybe the heat could have been to encourage window opening?

Edit: This would make it easier for the culprit to climb out the window and up to the balcony without being noticed.

[sonoci]

Maybe the heat could have been to encourage window opening?

There's also this with the heat thing. ...In addition to the ice cream cake. I firmly believe that the heat and the cake are going to...make something happen. How the cake is involved - evidence, throw off alibi (?) - is beyond me, but I have the feeling it's going to be important in some way.

Can't wait for any news on the next file *v* This is actually one of those cases where I sort of feel like I have a grasp as to what's going on (even if I probably don't)

[kuro_shiro]

Maybe the heat could have been to encourage window opening?

Edit: This would make it easier for the culprit to climb out the window and up to the balcony without being noticed.

well i would be encouraged to turn on the ac  .
besides it won't be locked room murder in that case .

[Chekhov MacGuffin]

well i would be encouraged to turn on the ac  .

And if the AC was "broken" ?

[kuro_shiro]

well i would be encouraged to turn on the ac  .

And if the AC was "broken" ?

then i will open the window and so when police arrives , they will notice that window is open and believe that killer escaped by that route and acrophobic woman  could not be the murderer .

and yes, unless police asks me whether window was closed from inside when i woke up , i will not tell them this pointless detail.



the  point is that for room to be "sealed" , window needs to be closed .

as far as culprit trying to make the window appear closed to other witnesses, it can be easily managed if culprit is the first to reach at scene.
of course , presence of amuro and kogoro was not anticipated by culprit. and hence that task would appear doable.


final argument .
after discovering the body , first thing conan did was check the windows(but not open) , otherwise he would not have thought it to be sealed room case.
so if culprit  planned that move , it would have killed the sealed room trick . now that is not the case , right?

[sstimson]

Spoiler:

LMAO, BO Tennis  :D

Spoiler:

and as predicted Habiara's raging big time, at least I didn't see her B-slap Conan yet. Seem like Amuro got by the police questioning at the station no problem->GG sstimson.  I wonder why Gosho had Conan get hit by a racket though.

Ever heard of "house arrest"?

Spoiler:

Looking at Conan expression speaks volumes. It is clear, he did not think he would see bourbon so soon. I am sure by now the FBI and Jodie know who Bourbon is. It is about to become a game if when will Conan action show he know who Bourbon is? He is not a great actor and Bourbon seeing Conan Expression might already know that Conan know something about him. Think why does he look at me with shock and fear? Also as far as Bourbon knowing about KID, well we know Vermouth put two and two together. I think with time Bourbon if he has not already does so, will put the pieces together. Who will be the better game player. Time will tell. I expect that soon Bourbon will disappear. Now if that because of him thinking time to go underground or because the FBI picks him up. Time will tell.
By the way, while there currently is no way to know, Bourbon while being questioned might have been given a summons to appear to answer more questions about the train bombing. Him walking free, does not end the matter.

[leokiko]

Next chapter:

Spoiler:

Nothing exciting, only the page where Amuro nods to Conan. The rest, the usual. Investigating and Conan reaches a conclusion, meaning this will probably be a 3-parter.

[Borealis]

Next chapter:

Spoiler:

Nothing exciting, only the page where Amuro nods to Conan. The rest, the usual. Investigating and Conan reaches a conclusion, meaning this will probably be a 3-parter.

where did you get that from?