(SPOILERS) Questions left unanswered at the end of the train

[ShinRan4ver]

After Mystery Train Series over, what's next for Okiya, Sera and Amuro in File 825, especially Amuro, see if Amuro can continue to be Kogorou's disciple and go back to work at Poirot after revealed he is Bourbon or just disappear without informing Ran and Kogorou and simply go back to Black Organization HQ.

After taking a long time, Haibara finally begin to trust Okiya, but Haibara may think Okiya already know that she is Sherry, especially she ran away from Okiya and thought Okiya may kill her in File 821. Will Haibara go back to the time when she feared Okiya and assumed he is BO member again.

Will Conan inform FBI that Bourbon finally showed up himself since Jodie reminded him to give them a call if anything happens in File 622. Based on Conan's character, he may not do so.

We have a precedent-> Vermouth didn't go back to Dr. Araide after the Halloween Case and Amuro clearly asked for the Akai Files, so my guess would be he goes to a secret BO location to investigate those files.

Regarding Haibara and Okiya I am looking forward Haibara yell at both Okiya and Conan for not letting her know of the plan from the begining, we may have a Haibara B-slap Conan moment

Conan may inform FBI that Bourbon=Amuro, but since Amuro would most likely go away fro a period of time it probably won't be that useful.

[Stopwatch]

If he revealed Amuro he'd have to try and awkwardly avoid saying how he found out in order to protect Akai's identity. It's possible it's time for the FBI to find out now, but I doubt it.

[sstimson]

Considering the bomb is now blown up into dust-sized pieces at best, there's not going to be any information obtained from it. Even if the FBI could somehow get hold of her phone and the blown up carriage which is... in the middle of a huge, unstable (due to the explosion) bridge, there is no way to track it back to her.
I'll let the others handle the rest, they've got more patience than me

KID's Smoke grenade is dust yes I agree with that. But not the Bo's. That one was completely used for putting smoke in the air. Unless there is another remote charge attached to it, it is still where it was place and will be found. It was not the kind that destroys itself.

To suggest you can find information from their cell is ludicrous, but I expected nothing less from you.  Whatever App/cell number that can be used to trigger the smoke bomb can be easily deleted, Vermouth could also easily throw that phone into the toilet to destroy all data on it(this tactic is used very often in the DC series) and use a different phone to call Gin at the station. Also, Did you see Vermouth return Yukkio's cell, she clearly didn't and have plenty of time to throw it away or leave it somewhere with fingerprints wiped off,(Yukkio can't get her arrested/detained for this as she is the only witness) therefore your precious "evidence" goes bye bye.

I am not. I am suggesting that after checking the BO smoke bomb, they will find out what set it off. They will find a cell phone type receiver and will be able to find its number. They then will be able to find the last number that was called to it. If Vermouth does leave that phone on the Train , It will be found. And as Yukiko phone was not used to set off the smoke bomb it  does not matter. It is vermouth's phone that matters and even if the data in it is gone, the other factors will link it to a passenger that made a call around the time of the explosion and the setting off of the smoke bomb. Remember who owns this train and if he acted one way about murder, think about how is going to act that his train had a car explode. He I think will take it very personally. He is not going to stop until he get to the bottom. And again the Passengers of that train are currently in police custody. There is a good chance he will be there very shortly and also ask a few questions.

What do think Bourbon who was the last to enter the car is going to say. What is the BO cover story?

[El Huesudo II]

After Mystery Train Series over, what's next for Okiya, Sera and Amuro in File 825, especially Amuro, see if Amuro can continue to be Kogorou's disciple and go back to work at Poirot after revealed he is Bourbon or just disappear without informing Ran and Kogorou and simply go back to Black Organization HQ.

After taking a long time, Haibara finally begin to trust Okiya, but Haibara may think Okiya already know that she is Sherry, especially she ran away from Okiya and thought Okiya may kill her in File 821. Will Haibara go back to the time when she feared Okiya and assumed he is BO member again.

Will Conan inform FBI that Bourbon finally showed up himself since Jodie reminded him to give them a call if anything happens in File 622. Based on Conan's character, he may not do so.

Amuro has no reason to vanish from Mouri's agency. At most, he might be guilty of checking Kogoro's computer without permission, but neither Ran nor Kogoro should know that. As for Amuro being revealed as Bourbon, only 5 people know: Conan, Okiya/Akai, Haibara, Kaito, and possibly Yukiko. Kaito has no reason to tell Kogoro that his protege is a gun-toting mobster, and as for the other 4, letting the fact slip would only mean trouble for them.

Haibara most likely knows who Okiya is by this point. She might have run away from Okiya after he revealed he knew Akemi, but as she took part in Conan's plan, which involved Okiya, it's highly likely that she's in on who he really is.

And Conan has no reason not to inform the FBI about it. It's not like the FBI would do anything; both them and Conan are supposed to keep a low profile because they can't really do anything (Conan's just a kid and the FBI has no jurisdiction) and revealing themselves would mean mission failed.

Regarding Haibara and Okiya I am looking forward Haibara yell at both Okiya and Conan for not letting her know of the plan from the begining, we may have a Haibara B-slap Conan moment

I'd love to see Haibara b-slapping Okiya, too. It would be HILARIOUS.

[AICHAN]

After Mystery Train Series over, what's next for Okiya, Sera and Amuro in File 825, especially Amuro, see if Amuro can continue to be Kogorou's disciple and go back to work at Poirot after revealed he is Bourbon or just disappear without informing Ran and Kogorou and simply go back to Black Organization HQ.

After taking a long time, Haibara finally begin to trust Okiya, but Haibara may think Okiya already know that she is Sherry, especially she ran away from Okiya and thought Okiya may kill her in File 821. Will Haibara go back to the time when she feared Okiya and assumed he is BO member again.

Will Conan inform FBI that Bourbon finally showed up himself since Jodie reminded him to give them a call if anything happens in File 622. Based on Conan's character, he may not do so.

Amuro has no reason to vanish from Mouri's agency. At most, he might be guilty of checking Kogoro's computer without permission, but neither Ran nor Kogoro should know that. As for Amuro being revealed as Bourbon, only 5 people know: Conan, Okiya/Akai, Haibara, Kaito, and possibly Yukiko. Kaito has no reason to tell Kogoro that his protege is a gun-toting mobster, and as for the other 4, letting the fact slip would only mean trouble for them.

Haibara most likely knows who Okiya is by this point. She might have run away from Okiya after he revealed he knew Akemi, but as she took part in Conan's plan, which involved Okiya, it's highly likely that she's in on who he really is.

And Conan has no reason not to inform the FBI about it. It's not like the FBI would do anything; both them and Conan are supposed to keep a low profile because they can't really do anything (Conan's just a kid and the FBI has no jurisdiction) and revealing themselves would mean mission failed.

Regarding Haibara and Okiya I am looking forward Haibara yell at both Okiya and Conan for not letting her know of the plan from the begining, we may have a Haibara B-slap Conan moment

I'd love to see Haibara b-slapping Okiya, too. It would be HILARIOUS.

I completely agree with you...As you said Amuro think his cover is safe,so staying close to Kogoro while investigating on Akai's death seems to be possible.

I guess Haibara knows who Okiya is,at least she knows he was part of Conan and Yukiko's plan so he is on the good side.She has no reason to fear Okiya now.
I'm more curious to see if Ai knows that "Dai" is FBI.

And I also want to see Haibara b-slapping Okiya,that would be funny,but since she's in a child body I don't think that would happen.Haibara yelling at Conan and Okiya would be fine.

[El Huesudo II]

I can see it.

Conan, Okiya, Agasa and Yukiko in a room with Haibara.
Haibara berating them all and going mad.
Conan tries to say something and SLAP! a big one to the face courtesy of Haibara.
Everyone goes ._.
Okiya crouches down and tries to smooth talk Haibara into calming down...
SLAP!
A big one to the face for Okiya as well, as his face would be at her reach.

[AICHAN]

I can see it.

Conan, Okiya, Agasa and Yukiko in a room with Haibara.
Haibara berating them all and going mad.
Conan tries to say something and SLAP! a big one to the face courtesy of Haibara.
Everyone goes ._.
Okiya crouches down and tries to smooth talk Haibara into calming down...
SLAP!
A big one to the face for Okiya as well, as his face would be at her reach.

That would be just great!!! sonoci has to draw this!!!!

[HADAA]

You guys just turned a potentially serious scene into a farce D:

[Sake]

Hey everyone, I'm new to the forum but I've been a very long-time constant lurker, reading all these discussions which I found very intriguing. Anyway, this particular 'debate' fused me to actually create an account, and came out to the surface because of one thing: Sstimson's persistence in this had totally reached my nerves. Well, I would've pouted out many harsh words if my account was approved yesterday. Thankfully it didn't happen anyway, because I'm much more calmer now to NOT post a painful sarcastic reply.

Well, this might be a late reply with the subject already proceeding to another discussion but I'm doing it anyway.

A friendly advice to Sstimson. Seriously, STOP being so persistent with your absurd (? not sure if that's the right word. Sorry english is my 2nd language) reasoning based on your FEELINGS and not the real facts. You reminded me of my cousin, who basically knew/realized he was wrong on certain issue but kept on insisting on matters that came from his mouth as if that was the truth. He then started to bash other people who were trying to tell him that what he was thinking/saying was WRONG. He kept on insisting, raising tempers to everyone, replying friendly suggestions and corrections in angry manner. It got me furious enough one time that I eventually pushed him through the stairs to stop his constant false-deduction (WARNING! don't ever attemp to do the same! I admit I was a very vicious and brutal men in my younger days... hence the reason why I'm a BO member  ).

Just give up already... many people gave you logical possibilites which are based by fact, but you always shoved them back with irrelevant questions. Fingerprints, Smoke Bombs, ET right...? Do they really need to be brought to the discussion? O_O You're making simple things sounded ridiculously NOT simple *sigh*, redirecting facts with out-of-place facts.

Here's food for thought for everyone (which I'm sure you will eventually argue). A bit late to the party though haha:

1. In File823 when Okiya carried Sera to her room, notice that Sera's hat (later worn by Akai) is there. You would remember that the hat was later found on the train's corridor by Ran. Okiya - Sera's hat - Akai. See the relations there?

2. In File824, notice that Conan was not in Ran's group, and when he made the call to Yukiko, he's still standing in the smoke. Now, WHERE did he go after that? He was NOWHERE to be seen after that. If you said that Okiya is busy guarding Haibara, have your realized the possibility that Conan could've take over his place while Okiya, somehow, returned as Akai approached Bourbon. In the end of the file, Conan said that 'Haibara' will be waiting in other room, it was never stated that it was REALLY her. It could've been Conan all along, who was guarding Haibara in her room. Could anyone even tell where he had gone after that?

3. Geez, KID doesn't KNOW Akai... if he actually had MORE THAN A DOZEN accomplishes in that train, he still wouldn't be able to disguise them as Akai, because he NEVER met him. Yeah, Kid's father was in US... did he ever meet Akai? Don't know, who cares... but Kid, THIS Kid who are involved in the train, as far as I know, NEVER operates outside of Japan (I don't know details about this though, so feel free to correct it). More than that... Akai has been 'DEAD' for quite some time.... O_O  

Dear Mr/Mrs Sstimson, I think you should just rest the case, cut the chase. Stop trying to counter everyone whose opinion are based on simple facts by bashing with your own, and twisting it with additional details that sounded more ir-relevant to the initial discussion. Thanks for providing your theory to us, but IMHO it has gone overboard now. Please, please... just stop and discuss about other stuff already. Be a good boy/girl and accept the fact that you might be wrong in one or two opinions. It's okay, nobody's perfect... we will accept your regret with open hand 

...

On to the next topic! Here's my quick thought (quick as in what simply occured on my head by the time I'm typing)

1. One thing for sure... Haibara already knows that Okiya is someone 'familiar' to her, so she will be confronting him (or Conan to tell him) for sure.

2. If he's actually such an awesome agent as he's supposed to be, I think Amuro might leave Kogoro's office and disappear because he knows his identity is already exposed one way or another to the agency.

3. I don't think Conan will inform the FBI, because that will mean blowing out Akai's cover and endangering Kir's.

One thing I'm eager to see is that we're going to have more explanation about many things in the next file for sure.

[El Huesudo II]

2. If he's actually such an awesome agent as he's supposed to be, I think Amuro might leave Kogoro's office and disappear because he knows his identity is already exposed one way or another to the agency.

But it hasn't! (as far as Bourbon knows).

The only ones who know about Bourbon's identity outside the BO are Conan, Haibara, Yukiko, Okiya/Akai and Kaito Kid. To deduce that his cover is blown, Amuro would have to either know or deduce that Conan and Yukiko are investigating him, that Okiya is Akai in disguise, that Haibara is Sherry, and/or that the Sherry he tried to blow up was really Kaito Kid.

Of those 4 points, Amuro has no way of knowing 3 of them, and he's still on the first stages of deducing the 4th one (that Akai is alive and disguised as Okiya). And even if he finds out the truth about Akai, the only link between Akai and the Mouri Det. Agency is that Akai once protected them by sniping at Gin.

Hell, if he knew anything about the other 3 points, then the one in deep trouble wouldn't be Amuro.

In short: From Bourbon's POV, his cover is safe, and thus he has no reason to leave the Agency.

Well, there IS a reason why he'd have to leave the Agency, the fact that he used the Agency's computer without permission. But someone would have to call him out on that for him to have to leave, otherwise it's like it didn't happen.

[Sake]

2. If he's actually such an awesome agent as he's supposed to be, I think Amuro might leave Kogoro's office and disappear because he knows his identity is already exposed one way or another to the agency.

But it hasn't! (as far as Bourbon knows).

The only ones who know about Bourbon's identity outside the BO are Conan, Haibara, Yukiko, Okiya/Akai and Kaito Kid. To deduce that his cover is blown, Amuro would have to either know or deduce that Conan and Yukiko are investigating him, that Okiya is Akai in disguise, that Haibara is Sherry, and/or that the Sherry he tried to blow up was really Kaito Kid.

Of those 4 points, Amuro has no way of knowing 3 of them, and he's still on the first stages of deducing the 4th one (that Akai is alive and disguised as Okiya). And even if he finds out the truth about Akai, the only link between Akai and the Mouri Det. Agency is that Akai once protected them by sniping at Gin.

Hell, if he knew anything about the other 3 points, then the one in deep trouble wouldn't be Amuro.

In short: From Bourbon's POV, his cover is safe, and thus he has no reason to leave the Agency.

Well, there IS a reason why he'd have to leave the Agency, the fact that he used the Agency's computer without permission. But someone would have to call him out on that for him to have to leave, otherwise it's like it didn't happen.

Hmm... you have a good point there. Well, I don't know but I think if he's a real deductive master, he would at least be more cautious knowing that someone (Akai hidden in the smoke) is already aware of his identity, eventhough it's not someone from the agency. Plus, as you have said, he was also aware that the video he saw at the agency was being hijacked as well. If he's such a smart guy, he would've suspected someone has been monitoring his action as well. That's from my perspective though, and I might be completely wrong because I'm too lazy to check on details (and bad at deductions) hahaha

[El Huesudo II]

I guess Bourbon could simply link being hacked while in the middle of checking out Kogoro's computer and being grenaded by a man who looked suspiciously like Akai. I mean, Akai did get the Mouri Det. Agency out of a jiffy once before, so why not do it again?

This could be the seed of a much more dangerous realization, though. You can't just hack inside a computer like it's no big deal, you'd require some sort of authorization to maneuver the machine remotely. And who set that up for Akai, exactly? Neither Kogoro nor Ran seem to know anything about computers; and the only other person in the agency is Conan. (Though, he could also think Akai himself did it somehow.)

But that's only if Aoyama-sensei doesn't decide to go the Hollywood hacking school of logic (which implies any computer is hackable as long as it's plugged into the Internet). Because then it's no big deal, one could just say Akai is an 1337 h4xx0r and leave it at that.

[queenmisanagi]

My own questions: Will Vermouth and BO bear a grudge against KID since he interfered with their plans? Is it possible that Vermouth knows who the current KID is, considering she also knew Toichi?

[sstimson]

And yet if you read between the lines Bourbon should really be uneasy. Reason he can see how Vermouth surprise on her face. She goes from carefree to serious very quickly. That might hint they failed. And that might tip him off to a chance his cover is blown.
Proof

happy - http://www.dctp.ws/V78-Reader/V78-7Read/A12.html

The reveal - http://www.dctp.ws/V78-Reader/V78-7Read/A13.html

Serious and maybe worried - http://www.dctp.ws/V78-Reader/V78-7Read/A16.html

[HADAA]

Sstimson actually posted something that didn't hit a nerve! Good job
Yeah, their plan failed and Vermouth can only concede defeat and let Ai live for now. Amuro probably didn't know exactly how their plan failed (that Sherry was not real) but did suspect about Akai's death.

@queen misanagi: Vermouth currently only wants one person die - Sherry/Ai. Probably not out of grudge but I'm just guessing. Other than that she doesn't have hard feelings toward anyone else -- not Kid, not Conan, not even Yukiko who interfered with her plan in her face.
And only Vermouth knew that was Kid. She likely won't report it to BO since she just told them Sherry died. Most of all she secretly wants Conan, the silver bullet, to take on the BO.