(SPOILERS) Questions left unanswered at the end of the train
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(SPOILERS) Questions left unanswered at the end of the train
So, questions left unanswered at the end of the Bourbon arc:
· Did Conan hear that Amuro is Bourbon?
· If yes, is he going to do anything about it?
· What did Okiya tell/do with Haibara?
· Does anybody in that group know Okiya and Akai are the same person?
· Is Sherry officially dead to the BO?
· What's Amuro going to do?
· What does Sera know?
· Did meeting her (fake) brother change anything?
· What was she doing there to begin with since she clearly believed Akai to be very much dead?
· What's the source of Amuro and Akai's rivalry?
· What's the connection between Amuro and Wataru Daté?
· Given Sherry's supposedly dead to the BO, will Amuro stay as KogorÅ
· Did Conan hear that Amuro is Bourbon?
· If yes, is he going to do anything about it?
· What did Okiya tell/do with Haibara?
· Does anybody in that group know Okiya and Akai are the same person?
· Is Sherry officially dead to the BO?
· What's Amuro going to do?
· What does Sera know?
· Did meeting her (fake) brother change anything?
· What was she doing there to begin with since she clearly believed Akai to be very much dead?
· What's the source of Amuro and Akai's rivalry?
· What's the connection between Amuro and Wataru Daté?
· Given Sherry's supposedly dead to the BO, will Amuro stay as KogorÅ
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Are we 100% sure that Haibara was the one who told that information to Kid? It could have also been Okiya with a voice changer, cause that bit of information is something Akai would probably know as well.
I hope it was indeed Haibara who told the info cause then it makes Conan less of a jerk for at least explaining her what's going on, and that would mean Haibara would at least have a clue on current events.
I hope it was indeed Haibara who told the info cause then it makes Conan less of a jerk for at least explaining her what's going on, and that would mean Haibara would at least have a clue on current events.

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I was thinking it might have been Conan with the voice changer, since everything Kidbara said was information that Conan had access to.
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I thought that too, but Conan making the phonecall to Yukiko while Bourbon and Kidbara (this term should stick
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· Did Conan hear that Amuro is Bourbon?
Most likely. If Kid didn't tell him, then most likely Akai will. That is, assuming Conan didn't know since the very beginning of the case. Which would explain this scene: his smile as he looked at the window could have been because he saw Amuro's reflection on it, as he signaled Vermouth.
· If yes, is he going to do anything about it?
He can't do much, really. After all, no one should know that he's bad news, and he even has connections to the MPD. Unless Amuro vanishes on his own, then there's nothing Conan can do.
· What did Okiya tell/do with Haibara?
I assume he simply gave Haibara a signal to indicate that there was a plan in motion, and to "disappear". I suppose Conan would fill her in on the plan later.
· Does anybody in that group know Okiya and Akai are the same person?
If I have to guess, then I'd say Conan and Yukiko should know.
· Is Sherry officially dead to the BO?
Yeah, pretty much. Unless Vermouth decides to inform anyone otherwise, I guess it's all good. And as much as she'd want to kill Haibara, she has very powerful reasons not to talk.
· What's Amuro going to do?
Check on Akai's death, I suppose. This could be the time when someone in the BO finally realizes it was impossible for anyone to actually see Akai die, and that the explosion was too convenient.
· What does Sera know?
I guess nothing. To her, Akai is supposed to be dead, but apparently alive, and that's pretty much it.
· Did meeting her (fake) brother change anything?
I hope it changes everything.
· What was she doing there to begin with since she clearly believed Akai to be very much dead?
Maybe she did join in just for fun. Or she suspects Okiya of... something, and followed him.
Or she really is a shotacon and was there because Conan was gonna be there. The reason is pretty much up in the air.
· What's the source of Amuro and Akai's rivalry?
· What's the connection between Amuro and Wataru Daté?
These really are unresolved issues. Who knows? Maybe we'll know later.
Most likely. If Kid didn't tell him, then most likely Akai will. That is, assuming Conan didn't know since the very beginning of the case. Which would explain this scene: his smile as he looked at the window could have been because he saw Amuro's reflection on it, as he signaled Vermouth.
· If yes, is he going to do anything about it?
He can't do much, really. After all, no one should know that he's bad news, and he even has connections to the MPD. Unless Amuro vanishes on his own, then there's nothing Conan can do.
· What did Okiya tell/do with Haibara?
I assume he simply gave Haibara a signal to indicate that there was a plan in motion, and to "disappear". I suppose Conan would fill her in on the plan later.
· Does anybody in that group know Okiya and Akai are the same person?
If I have to guess, then I'd say Conan and Yukiko should know.
· Is Sherry officially dead to the BO?
Yeah, pretty much. Unless Vermouth decides to inform anyone otherwise, I guess it's all good. And as much as she'd want to kill Haibara, she has very powerful reasons not to talk.
· What's Amuro going to do?
Check on Akai's death, I suppose. This could be the time when someone in the BO finally realizes it was impossible for anyone to actually see Akai die, and that the explosion was too convenient.
· What does Sera know?
I guess nothing. To her, Akai is supposed to be dead, but apparently alive, and that's pretty much it.
· Did meeting her (fake) brother change anything?
I hope it changes everything.
· What was she doing there to begin with since she clearly believed Akai to be very much dead?
Maybe she did join in just for fun. Or she suspects Okiya of... something, and followed him.
Or she really is a shotacon and was there because Conan was gonna be there. The reason is pretty much up in the air.
· What's the source of Amuro and Akai's rivalry?
· What's the connection between Amuro and Wataru Daté?
These really are unresolved issues. Who knows? Maybe we'll know later.
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Has anyone suggested that, since Bourbon and Moroboshi Dai were rivals, that Okiya (Akai) knew Bourbon's identity all along and most likely told Conan at some point?
Sherry is probably not dead to Bourbon given that he "saw" Akai's silhouettte and probably, if he's the "great detective" the BO believes him to be, suspects foul play.
Perhaps Amuro and Akai's rivalry has to do with Akemi. Amuro said that he had met Akemi and Ai's parents before. Maybe Akemi was originally dating Amuro before Akai entered the scene and the two were pretty serious.
It's also possible Conan could play off that scar Akai was really Akai to Sera and that he shocked her to keep her out of danger or something if he and Okiya want to keep her from investigating the BO.
Sherry is probably not dead to Bourbon given that he "saw" Akai's silhouettte and probably, if he's the "great detective" the BO believes him to be, suspects foul play.
Perhaps Amuro and Akai's rivalry has to do with Akemi. Amuro said that he had met Akemi and Ai's parents before. Maybe Akemi was originally dating Amuro before Akai entered the scene and the two were pretty serious.
It's also possible Conan could play off that scar Akai was really Akai to Sera and that he shocked her to keep her out of danger or something if he and Okiya want to keep her from investigating the BO.
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Agreeing with this. Gin just tried to have Vermouth and Bourbon killed in that explosion; I doubt Vermouth is feeling generous enough to let Gin in on the secret that Sherry escaped again. Bourbon wanted to take her in alive, which was against Gin and Vermouth's plan to have her killed, so I doubt he'll be telling Gin either. He seems to have his own agenda separate from Vermouth's as well.El Huesudo II wrote: · Is Sherry officially dead to the BO?
Yeah, pretty much. Unless Vermouth decides to inform anyone otherwise, I guess it's all good. And as much as she'd want to kill Haibara, she has very powerful reasons not to talk.
I dunno about anyone else, but I seriously hope this isn't the case.MagicianUndertheMoonlight wrote: Perhaps Amuro and Akai's rivalry has to do with Akemi. Amuro said that he had met Akemi and Ai's parents before. Maybe Akemi was originally dating Amuro before Akai entered the scene and the two were pretty serious.
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Me too but welcome to DC where every one has a love interest and everyone has to be paired off. Just throwing it out there really since no one has elaborated on the rivalry at all yet in the manga.PhoenixTears wrote: [I dunno about anyone else, but I seriously hope this isn't the case.MagicianUndertheMoonlight wrote: Perhaps Amuro and Akai's rivalry has to do with Akemi. Amuro said that he had met Akemi and Ai's parents before. Maybe Akemi was originally dating Amuro before Akai entered the scene and the two were pretty serious.I hope this isn't all over a girl.
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I'm pretty sure I've made a joke in the past that Akemi was Bourbon's childhood love interest and that he hates Akai because he was her lover. At this point, I wouldn't be surprised if that's the case.PhoenixTears wrote: I dunno about anyone else, but I seriously hope this isn't the case.I hope this isn't all over a girl.

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He could try tipping off the FBI about him.El Huesudo II wrote:· If yes, is he going to do anything about it?
He can't do much, really. After all, no one should know that he's bad news, and he even has connections to the MPD. Unless Amuro vanishes on his own, then there's nothing Conan can do.
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I think Conan from beginning, to be exact that from the case where he was kidnapped, knew that Amuro is person from B. O. (that time Okiya saw Amuro in Kogoro's car and recognised him, so he should tell Conan about it and with their deduction skill I think they should know that Amuro is Bourbon).
And I think that the most safe way to do is to have Haibara tell KID what he should say, after all there are some information that only she should know, for example if Amuro will start to talk about APTX or something else (and I’m sure that only Haibara and Akai know the information that Dai Moboroshi was Amuro rival, because knowing Akai he won’t tell Conan about it).
What is quite interesting for me is the reason that Gin wanted to kill Sherry because after this file we can see that the B. O. rather than eliminate Shiho they want to get her back.
Sorry for my English.
And I think that the most safe way to do is to have Haibara tell KID what he should say, after all there are some information that only she should know, for example if Amuro will start to talk about APTX or something else (and I’m sure that only Haibara and Akai know the information that Dai Moboroshi was Amuro rival, because knowing Akai he won’t tell Conan about it).
What is quite interesting for me is the reason that Gin wanted to kill Sherry because after this file we can see that the B. O. rather than eliminate Shiho they want to get her back.
Sorry for my English.
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Yeah, that'd be a clever move; but still a slow one. There'd be surveillance, for sure, but nothing too notorious or else Bourbon would notice something's not right. Whenever the BO realizes something's not right, it's game over.Puto wrote:He could try tipping off the FBI about him.El Huesudo II wrote:· If yes, is he going to do anything about it?
He can't do much, really. After all, no one should know that he's bad news, and he even has connections to the MPD. Unless Amuro vanishes on his own, then there's nothing Conan can do.
And then there's just waiting for the right moment to strike, meanwhile Bourbon would be getting closer and closer to the truth...
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Not B.O., just Amuro(and his underlings in the B.O) imo. Because his relationship with Akemi and the Miyano parents he is inclined to take her in alive. Both the Gin/Vodka team and Vermouth want her dead.lethiminhkhuyen wrote: I think Conan from beginning, to be exact that from the case where he was kidnapped, knew that Amuro is person from B. O. (that time Okiya saw Amuro in Kogoro's car and recognised him, so he should tell Conan about it and with their deduction skill I think they should know that Amuro is Bourbon).
And I think that the most safe way to do is to have Haibara tell KID what he should say, after all there are some information that only she should know, for example if Amuro will start to talk about APTX or something else (and I’m sure that only Haibara and Akai know the information that Dai Moboroshi was Amuro rival, because knowing Akai he won’t tell Conan about it).
What is quite interesting for me is the reason that Gin wanted to kill Sherry because after this file we can see that the B. O. rather than eliminate Shiho they want to get her back.
Sorry for my English.
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Here a real question. While vermouth can escape easy, since Korogou is on the train, bourbon can not just leave. So he is as good as caught. But will Conan use his knowledge and thus tip off the BO, or play it the other way?
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I doubt he will seek a direct confrontation this soon. Bourbon definitely will not stick around being Kogoro's apprentice and I don't really see why he can't just leave(I don't see the connection between Kogoro on the train & Amuro can not just leave).sstimson wrote: Here a real question. While vermouth can escape easy, since Korogou is on the train, bourbon can not just leave. So he is as good as caught. But will Conan use his knowledge and thus tip off the BO, or play it the other way?
