I think Deron is a bit overrated.
NBA Playoffs 2012 Thread Round II
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Maybe today's Nash, no. But the best Nash is far way better than the best Rondo, for sure.
I think Deron is a bit overrated.
I think Deron is a bit overrated.

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I would put CP3 above all this season considering what he accomplished with what he had to work with. I think he also ranked 3rd in the MVP voting behind the two monster forwards.
Rondo is a great PG who I personally would place above all but CP3, Rose, and maybe rank even with Williams. He's had quite a few beast triple doubles this post season and is easily the only reason the Celtics made it this far.
Parker is great as well, and certainly one of the players I would least like to face in a 1 on 1 situation, but I wouldn't place him in the top 3. He's got quite a bit to work with on his team, like Rondo, but Rondo does a lot more, although he doesn't play as many minutes as Rondo. He and Westbrook probably better fit around 5th or 6th.
Rondo is a great PG who I personally would place above all but CP3, Rose, and maybe rank even with Williams. He's had quite a few beast triple doubles this post season and is easily the only reason the Celtics made it this far.
Parker is great as well, and certainly one of the players I would least like to face in a 1 on 1 situation, but I wouldn't place him in the top 3. He's got quite a bit to work with on his team, like Rondo, but Rondo does a lot more, although he doesn't play as many minutes as Rondo. He and Westbrook probably better fit around 5th or 6th.
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I think Deron is actually underrated - people kind of glossed him over because his New Jersey situation, where Brook Lopez was hurt and he basically had to play with Kris Humphries, Anthony Morrow, and Marshon Brooks.
He can score buckets, is a great passer, and has that strong body frame where he pretty much can have a size advantage over any PG.
I'd rate PGs as 1. CP3 2. Derrick Rose 3. Tony Parker 4. Deron Williams 5. Rondo 6. Nash
My thinking is that, in your mind if you were to replace like Rondo with CP3, or Deron, or Tony or Rose, he definitely wouldn't be as good as a player as he was in Boston.  On those teams, pretty much all the PGs are the number 1 option, and has tons of attention on them. Rondo isn't exactly gifted offensively, and without 3 HoFers to help out his assist count and suck away the defense, he's going to struggle. He's not a player that I'd feel confident building my franchise around, unlike those other players.
He can score buckets, is a great passer, and has that strong body frame where he pretty much can have a size advantage over any PG.
I'd rate PGs as 1. CP3 2. Derrick Rose 3. Tony Parker 4. Deron Williams 5. Rondo 6. Nash
My thinking is that, in your mind if you were to replace like Rondo with CP3, or Deron, or Tony or Rose, he definitely wouldn't be as good as a player as he was in Boston.  On those teams, pretty much all the PGs are the number 1 option, and has tons of attention on them. Rondo isn't exactly gifted offensively, and without 3 HoFers to help out his assist count and suck away the defense, he's going to struggle. He's not a player that I'd feel confident building my franchise around, unlike those other players.

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god i hate matt bonner so much, dont understand why the announcers always give him so much credit -he does this EVERY postseason, choke like a bitch.

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Hoping for a good game tonight, going well so far.
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I see how Ibaka gets his blocks now -.-
F u refs, seriously, you're paid to officiate you jackasses - when the announcers are more correct than you OBVIOUSLY you guys aren't doing your job.
Freaking goaltending, so obvious..
Can't wait until refs are replaced by robots or something in the future, useless!
F u refs, seriously, you're paid to officiate you jackasses - when the announcers are more correct than you OBVIOUSLY you guys aren't doing your job.
Freaking goaltending, so obvious..
Can't wait until refs are replaced by robots or something in the future, useless!

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Ibaka had an amazing game and it looks like Brooks learned his lesson with Westbrook. Durant can beast in a 4th quarter, while Westbrook is far too inconsistent at this point in time to be relied on in clutch situations. He's 2 for 10 at the moment - that's inexcusable.
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Yeah, omg...Spurs had a nice comeback, but Durant went God mode. Also, wow - Ibaka thought he was Dirk today.
At least there's some hope in playing Dejuan Blair..
Game 5 = INCREDIBLY PIVOTAL. Make or break the season.
At least there's some hope in playing Dejuan Blair..
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refs favoring the home team, whoa, i for one am shocked.ranger wrote: I see how Ibaka gets his blocks now -.-
F u refs, seriously, you're paid to officiate you jackasses - when the announcers are more correct than you OBVIOUSLY you guys aren't doing your job.
Freaking goaltending, so obvious..
Can't wait until refs are replaced by robots or something in the future, useless!
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^Nah, NBA just don't like da Spurs, we are the tv ratings killah. Joey Crawford T-ing up Timmy for laughing, never forget
Uh ohhhh
maybe I might of underestimated OKC...hehehh...
but seriously, wth, OKC frontline thought they were all Dirk, knocking down like mid range jumpshots like chump change
Uh ohhhh
maybe I might of underestimated OKC...hehehh...
but seriously, wth, OKC frontline thought they were all Dirk, knocking down like mid range jumpshots like chump change

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Ibaka and Perkins need to be able to hit those kinds of jumpers just like Garnett and Duncan if they plan on going the distance. If OKC could find some all-around consistency, then they'd be virtually unstoppable - especially some consistency from key players like Sefolosha, Perkins and Westbrook. Ibaka (at least defensively) and Harden are pretty consistent, so they just need those other few to step up and make some plays.
I concur that game 5 will be the decider. Spurs have the advantage, but OKC has a good shot at this series. Game 1 should have been theirs considering the lead they had and how Parker was underperforming, and they only lost by 3, so it's definitely possible. Either way, I'm sure we're in for a good series.
I'm not too sure about Boston vs. Miami though. At first I thought it'd be Miami all the way, but with Wade's current first half inconsistency, it could go either way. Then again, Lebron almost carried them single-handedly to a win in Boston, so Miami still has a great shot. Wade has to stop choking though with Bosh out if they plan on advancing.
As for the refs, so far, I think the SAS/OKC match has been extremely well-called. There's been a few missed fouls and goaltends on both sides, but the calls have been consistently even. The first two matches in MIA/BOS though were ridiculously called. The ludicrous technicals in the first and the two missed calls in overtime from game 2 were inexcusable. They need to have some arbiters or something in the review booth that can flag the refs down to review if an obvious crucial or ambiguous call is missed/made. Also someone to wave off obvious BS technicals called by the overly prideful refs when they become too sensitive.
I concur that game 5 will be the decider. Spurs have the advantage, but OKC has a good shot at this series. Game 1 should have been theirs considering the lead they had and how Parker was underperforming, and they only lost by 3, so it's definitely possible. Either way, I'm sure we're in for a good series.
I'm not too sure about Boston vs. Miami though. At first I thought it'd be Miami all the way, but with Wade's current first half inconsistency, it could go either way. Then again, Lebron almost carried them single-handedly to a win in Boston, so Miami still has a great shot. Wade has to stop choking though with Bosh out if they plan on advancing.
As for the refs, so far, I think the SAS/OKC match has been extremely well-called. There's been a few missed fouls and goaltends on both sides, but the calls have been consistently even. The first two matches in MIA/BOS though were ridiculously called. The ludicrous technicals in the first and the two missed calls in overtime from game 2 were inexcusable. They need to have some arbiters or something in the review booth that can flag the refs down to review if an obvious crucial or ambiguous call is missed/made. Also someone to wave off obvious BS technicals called by the overly prideful refs when they become too sensitive.
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When Celtics beat Heat in this series can y'all agree Rondo's the best PG? Only catched OT SMH.

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Oh and 2-2 even I didn't expect this but these Celtics will never give up.

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