Discussion Thread: Detective Conan Files 815-817 "Cabin Trap

[Kaito Lady]

WOOT! It feels great seeing Shiho again, especially in normal clothes and without Conan's glasses...

^

[yamiangie]

WOOT! It feels great seeing Shiho again, especially in normal clothes and without Conan's glasses...

I can see Okiya getting a ticket for the train without any problems (if any asks (though there is no reason to) he can just say he's a mystery fan), and Sera is definitely going to use sticking with the DB as an excuse to get on the train too,
but I wonder how Amuro can sneak off to the train without dragging Ran and Mouri with him (I think it would seem weird to them if he just spontaneously decided to go to where Conan has been planning to go without a good excuse (of course he doesn't have to tell them, but Conan can if he sees him on board)).

I wonder how long the train arc will be? My guess is: seven, or at least no less than five.
Someone mentioned this earlier, and I agree. The train case will probably involve a bomb since the thing about trains is that even if a crime is occurring at that moment, you can't escape OR wait/call for help.

As for the other speculation on the next case. The only way KID would fit into this would be if a series of cases occurred on the train, with KID's being the first one leading up to the gran BOrbon finale.

Well by the logic of this show.  if the train is a Suzuki property then Sonoko will in invite everyone.  Or is that too convenient?

[shihokudo]

I'M BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACCCCKKKK!!

Shiho!! I'm so excited.
PLOT DEVELOPMENT YAY!!

This may have already discussed but why do you think all three of them were interested in the video?

[minakichan]

Shiho!!!

Also, Mitsuhiko, WHAT THE HECK.

I hope that Shiho stays an adult, like the APTX antidote actually works on her perfectly for some reason, and suddenly everything changes... but that's not likely, huh.

[blackribbon]

Spoiler because it's more of a theory...

Spoiler:

So, assuming that Sera is Akai's sister, can we assume that she told Okiya about the video? Amuro probably knew because the DB had said they'd send pictures, so that's how he knew that there would be something worth checking out.

Also, I'm really quite surprised at how trusting Kogoro and Ran are towards Amuro. But at least Gosho avoided having Amuro conveniently guess their passwords. I always wonder if this works in real life. Everytime it happens, people go all, "They care about this and that, and there's this book right there... so the password MUST be X!" Still, I find it a bit unreasonable.

[kuro_shiro]

Spoiler:

So, assuming that Sera is Akai's sister, can we assume that she told Okiya about the video? Amuro probably knew because the DB had said they'd send pictures, so that's how he knew that there would be something worth checking out.

well , does sera know that akai=okiya? , if she knew about it before she saw him in cold case then she would not have been shocked. if she realised then, then she would have talked to him and asked about his disguise.
since she didn't do it ,it means she is suspicious not certain,
so telling him about a video of ai/shiho is not something a cautious person like her would do.

still out of conan and sera , it is more probable that it is sera


 

[nanilola]

Since the plot is moving now, I just want to share what I often come across as I study for my field (nutrition&dietetics).

Kinds of Whiskey:

1.) Rye -- supposed to be given as code name to Moroboshi Dai = Akai when he infiltrated the Black Org

2.) Bourbon -- who is this guy really?

Cocktail Mixing:

Bourbon + Vermouth = Manhattan !!! as in Manhattan, New York where Akai and Vermouth first met in Shinichi's NY Case

Does this happen to you guys? Whenever I read about or actually drink alcohol, I always remember Black Org. 

[ShinRan4ver]

Since the plot is moving now, I just want to share what I often come across as I study for my field (nutrition&dietetics).

Kinds of Whiskey:

1.) Rye -- supposed to be given as code name to Moroboshi Dai = Akai when he infiltrated the Black Org

2.) Bourbon -- who is this guy really?

Cocktail Mixing:

Bourbon + Vermouth = Manhattan !!! as in Manhattan, New York where Akai and Vermouth first met in Shinichi's NY Case

Does this happen to you guys? Whenever I read about or actually drink alcohol, I always remember Black Org. 

This happened to me when watching the Bus Jack/Bomb case 230-231, Vermouth disguised as a waiter offers Gin and Vodka Martinis for drinks, which is funny b/c  Martini is a cocktail that's from mixing Gin or Vodka(less common) + Vermouth.

[clipboarD]

Spoiler:

Since the plot is moving now, I just want to share what I often come across as I study for my field (nutrition&dietetics).

Kinds of Whiskey:

1.) Rye -- supposed to be given as code name to Moroboshi Dai = Akai when he infiltrated the Black Org

2.) Bourbon -- who is this guy really?

Cocktail Mixing:

Bourbon + Vermouth = Manhattan !!! as in Manhattan, New York where Akai and Vermouth first met in Shinichi's NY Case

Does this happen to you guys? Whenever I read about or actually drink alcohol, I always remember Black Org. 

i smell something fishy with this info...

[BeedaMetantei]

I bet that Amuro & Okiya are from FBI & CIA and Sera is Bourbon.
And Akai is the scar man

[Midi]

Gosho, why u no show the back of Amuro's hat? ლ(ಠ益ಠლ)

I laughed rather hard at this and your subsequent photoshop. Thanks for that!

Also, something that struck me:

Spoiler:

I am mostly allergic to coincidences in this series, and I am surprised how no one is wondering 'How did Amuro know to check in on Kogoro's website that night?'

My first instinct the moment I saw that exchange, and before I slapped my brain and told it not jump to conclusions without enough data, was that this sequence unhinges Sera as a fighter on the side of the angels, as I am quite convinced that Amuro is, at this point, part of the liqour cabinet. (it really is all your fault, Chek ;p)

Now this would lead to some rather disturbing deductions. Amuro, despite being apprenticed to Kogoro, is a very sharp detective. And if he really is a private eye in any shape or form, he will not risk breaking and entering Kogoro's office every night simply to check his mail. Someone clued him in that there was something to see on that laptop, and he risked his cover to get it.

And who knows, out of the other Bourbon suspects, that the video was sent? Sera does.

This of course leads to the fact that Okiya, also, knew to enter that pc - if remotely - and appropriate that video. However we have precedent of people, good and bad, bugging a place previously considered a safe house, and if Chek's theory proves true, Conan may have installed security cameras himself for Okiya/Akai to keep an eye on things while Shinichi was away. We know nothing of Akai's computer skills, so they cannot be proved or disproved. This would of course mean that Okiya, seeing Amuro there, took action and possibly deleted the entire PCs content (we are not told what the hacker is doing) or simply shut up access to it. Amuro has not such alternate excuse for being present in the office; someone had to have clued him in.

Unless the Gunma Idiot Detective is Ano Kata *shudder* or we are missing some glaring clues and Conan told Amuro himself, Sera did it.

My Pinkerton theory, presented in the thread previous this may still be viable, but remotely. I am more interested to see if Shinichi's parents will appear on that train... let us not forget the lipstick.

And also, let us not forget the fantastic twist at the end of Orient Express,

Spoiler:

where EVERYONE is the culprit. It makes me wonder if Bourbon, in face, is two, or more, people rather than one. Then again, of course, Agatha Christie also has 'The Blue Train's plot to lend.

[cute Ran]

After reading the files

My expectations are

1_ Okiya :      I think that part of it is linked to the organization, and part of it is linked to ai , Because relatives and I still think okaya  a brother  ai

2_ sera : I think it's Relatives  Akai , and is a good person

3_Amuru :  I think it is a member of the police or the local World , hidden,

but to explore closely in matters of organization and the disappearance of  koudo shinchi

4_ Finally, bourbon is no doubt for me That he Subaru okiya  and no doubt, but I suspect a lot of being an evil person whether or not



and  The akai  is already dead
And not everyone thinks as  Okiya
okiya character different from the Akai
But Gosho  make them
Are similar to deception  us , I mean Akai and okiya
And makes us believe they are one person
okiya His    character is the bourbon
He is also a brother of ai also

[Apprentice of Shiho]

I can see Okiya getting a ticket for the train without any problems (if anyone asks (though there is no reason to) he can just say he's a mystery fan), and Sera is definitely going to use sticking with the DB as an excuse to get on the train too,
but I wonder how Amuro can sneak off to the train without dragging Ran and Mouri with him (I think it would seem weird to them if he just spontaneously decided to go to where Conan has been planning to go without a good excuse (of course he doesn't have to tell them, but Conan can if he sees him on board)).

Well by the logic of this show.  if the train is a Suzuki property then Sonoko will in invite everyone.  Or is that too convenient?

I forgot about the Suzuki owning the train theory :x

I guess it still makes sense for Okiya and Sera still, since Sonoko has personally met them (though personally inviting Okiya is a bit iffy as she's not really friends with him), but I don't remember any Sonoko-Amuro interaction so I can't really see her giving it to him for free unless we have a case before the train case where the two interact (or at least Sonoko catches a glimpse of him and drools over his looks enough to use that as a basis for inviting him).

[greaterbeastxellas]

Spoiler:

If Amuro turns out to be Bourbon then there goes the whole need to not tell Ran the truth and getting her involved in the BO. If Amuro figures it all out about Conan then it is even more dangerous to keep it all hidden in the first place. So it is ok for Shinichi's parents to know about the BO and risk THEM getting killed but Ran and Kogoro have to be kept in the dark wtf?

[Kaito Lady]

when will we be able to see the next spoilers?