*SPOILER FREE* Discussion Thread: Detective Conan Files 815-

[Chekhov MacGuffin]

I'd guess now all three burbon suspects know ( or at least suspect) haibara's idenity since they saw the photograph. question now is how will they react when they see Haibara?

Amuro has never seen Haibara, Sera hasn't seen her very well except from that picture in Agasa's glasses which is probably so-so. Okiya does, but then again he probably knew she was Shiho back when he tried to move in with her in his first appearance. I bet Sera suspects because she knows about Conan and Shinichi most likely, so can apply that to Haibara as well after seeing Shiho. Amuro seems to be the only one in the dark still.

Also, now that I think about it, the wiretapping scene with Okiya in the Ayumi kidnapping happened by the computer. Could Okiya have been tapping them through it, rather than a bug?

[leokiko]

I'd guess now all three burbon suspects know ( or at least suspect) haibara's idenity since they saw the photograph. question now is how will they react when they see Haibara?

Amuro has never seen Haibara, Sera hasn't seen her well enough except from that picture in Agasa's glasses which is probably so-so. Okiya does, but then again he probably knew she was Shiho back when he tried to move in with her in his first appearance.

Didn't the DB took a picture before camping with Haibara wearing the ring? I bet they sent that to Kogoro too.

[Chekhov MacGuffin]

I'd guess now all three burbon suspects know ( or at least suspect) haibara's idenity since they saw the photograph. question now is how will they react when they see Haibara?

Amuro has never seen Haibara, Sera hasn't seen her well enough except from that picture in Agasa's glasses which is probably so-so. Okiya does, but then again he probably knew she was Shiho back when he tried to move in with her in his first appearance.

Didn't the DB took a picture before camping with Haibara wearing the ring? I bet they sent that to Kogoro too.

They didn't say anything about actually sending something other than the video, even though they did say they would send pictures. Amuro only mentioned the video as well.

[leokiko]

I see...So...

Sera only knows Shiho (her brother's girlfriend's sister) but didn't link her to Haibara since she never saw her.

Okiya knows Haibara = Shiho.

And Amuro only saw/knows Shiho but didn't see Haibara yet(presumably) so he didn't make the link.

[GinRei]

(her brother's girlfriend's sister)

Fixed that for you.

[Chekhov MacGuffin]

I see...So...

Sera only knows Shiho (her brother's girlfriend) but didn't link her to Haibara since she never saw her.

Okiya knows Haibara = Shiho.

And Amuro only saw/knows Shiho but didn't see Haibara yet(presumably) so he didn't make the link.

I think Sera might have made the link because she has seen the reflection of Haibara and also the video. Sera seems to have drawn the Conan-is-Shinichi connection so the logic Shiho is Haibara flows naturally from her suspicions.

I think Sera has more info than than we explicitly have seen; probably pictures and knowledge she has acquired somehow (maybe "borrowed" - I wouldn't put stealing from the FBI or talking someone into it (James?) past her) from Akai's investigation records as part of trying to figure out what happened to her brother. We can guess some of what she has because she started off knowing who Conan and Agasa were meaning she has done the background, history, and connections checking, and she wouldn't have known to target Conan and Haibara at all unless she had something to start from. My hunch is she has the picture of the DB that Akai had in his truck where Haibara features prominently. She also reacted strongly to the video of Shiho, so she may have a picture of her as well. (The photo of a photo from Vermouth's dartboard or a she saw a picture when Akai was trying to infiltrate maybe?)

[KuwabaraTheMan]

Wow. It really seems like this next case might be the climax of the arc. Gosho is also clearly shouting out "Okiya is Akai" for anyone who hasn't picked up on it. With everyone now having video of Shiho, it will be exciting to see how everything shakes out.

[shihokudo]

it is all so very exciting :3

finally some plot development

[Tenken]

And Amuro only saw/knows Shiho but didn't see Haibara yet(presumably) so he didn't make the link.

He did. The hint is in her distinctive ring.

[Chekhov MacGuffin]

And Amuro only saw/knows Shiho but didn't see Haibara yet(presumably) so he didn't make the link.

He did. The hint is in her distinctive ring.

So when has he seen a picture of Haibara that we know about? Amuro only mentioned the video, and Mitsuhiko only mentioned sending the video.

[leokiko]

I see...So...

Sera only knows Shiho (her brother's girlfriend) but didn't link her to Haibara since she never saw her.

Okiya knows Haibara = Shiho.

And Amuro only saw/knows Shiho but didn't see Haibara yet(presumably) so he didn't make the link.

I think Sera might have made the link because she has seen the reflection of Haibara and also the video. Sera seems to have drawn the Conan-is-Shinichi connection so the logic Shiho is Haibara flows naturally from her suspicions.

I think Sera has more info than than we explicitly have seen; probably pictures and knowledge she has acquired somehow (maybe "borrowed" - I wouldn't put stealing from the FBI or talking someone into it (James?) past her) from Akai's investigation records as part of trying to figure out what happened to her brother. We can guess some of what she has because she started off knowing who Conan and Agasa were meaning she has done the background, history, and connections checking, and she wouldn't have known to target Conan and Haibara at all unless she had something to start from. My hunch is she has the picture of the DB that Akai had in his truck where Haibara features prominently. She also reacted strongly to the video of Shiho, so she may have a picture of her as well. (The photo of a photo from Vermouth's dartboard or a she saw a picture when Akai was trying to infiltrate maybe?)

That's one part of your theories that's not even close to clear yet, mostly speculation. That's why, for me, Sera is the most mysterious character.

[kuro_shiro]

a question of interest -> why okiya hacked into kogoro's computer??

or more precisely, who told him about camping trip's photo will be sent to kogoro's computer? 

well amuro ,ofcourse, heard about camping trip and tried to investigate cuz he is bourbon(my belief) but why okiya ?
who told okiya about it ? and why?

well only possibility here is that conan told him about the video with instructions to delete it by any means necessary.
(i am certain that the sera was not the informer)


but considering conan's suspicious nature , isn't it odd to tell okiya about that thing especially when he would treat it as extremly important info?

well ,i have jumped to the conclusion that it was okiya who hacked and gosho was not trolling .
since sera knew about video , its possible that she was the hacker(its just a possibility backed up by gosho's trolling only)

then after a little thought , i wondered who told conan about video? well technically when mitsuhiko told sera ,conan was not there and shiho does not know about video (well she would have crushed it if she knew).
it is again possible that mitsuhiko told conan about it later, possibly during dinner(but gosho does not back it up, damn you gosho)
and that's why okiya hacks it late during dinner time.

if the info about trip happened in kogoro's office, i would think that okiya bugged it. but that's not the case

PS: maybe conan was the hacker and he is even better than falcon.

[blackgin]

I second that motion.

There's a possibility that one of the three is bourbon.

There's two possibilities to reveal bourbon or two people to more precise:
1) Shiho Miyano who is prime target for the BO.
2) Shuuchi Akai who bourbon hates the most.

Since there's not enough info to reveal who bourbon is then its up to these two to help us.

[Borealis]

how does Okiya know exactly when to show up like this? Are the neighborhood watch groups from those abridged animes giving  him inside info?

^XD

As far as I know that joke first appeared in Yu Yu Hakusho Abridged. The quote is "Attention everyone! This is the neighborhood watch committee reminding everyone that necrophilia is still illegal. Thank you and have a pleasant day."


Back to topic: How many "tickets" for the mystery train were sold? Was that ever said?
Because I have the feeling that there are going to be three known faces on board

[User 4869]

Some of the would expect Shiho. And it turn out that Even Ai don't show up.