Discussion Thread: Detective Conan Files 815-817 "Cabin Trap

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Stopwatch wrote:
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Stopwatch wrote: Did I say the DB wouldn't notice? :P
DB notice transformation= Story over= impossible. In term of story development, the DBs noticing that Haibara=Shiho would make it impossible to write the story further. It is one thing for Heiji to know about APTX, totally different if Genta-kun know about it.
They've kept quiet about Conan using Shinichi's voice, plus this is most probably coming up to the conclusion of the penultimate arc and there's already hints that Ran will find out, plus if Akai and Sera stay in the story much longer (Akai will likely because Conan needs the FBI to take down the BO) then they know too...
Using another person's voice and transforming into an Adult from a kid is tottally different.  Also Akai and Sera are adults, DBz are kids. Having Akai and Sera know about Conan=Shinichi advances the plot, DBz are not related to the overall BO plot therefore having them know about APTX doesn't help at all.  

Hints that Ran will find out and Ran actually finds out are totally different btw, Shinichi talked his way out of Ran suspicions many times before. But having Haibara disapper and Shiho appear in a locked room with no exits, there is no way for anyone to talk out of that. Plus again Ran is an adult, not a kid. Having adult character that are related to the Plot(Ran,Akai,Sera,Vermouth etc) know about APTX is totally different than letting normal kids(DBz) know about it.
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I agree about the DB, they are like 7-8 years old and don't know to keep things secret and most important which things to keep secret and which to not hide. There is also thae fact that the effect of the antidote will most likely last longer than at shinichi and if Haibara manages to tell them a lie, they will start thinking about it and people like Amuro or with long silver hair might hear about it. Anyway, for all we know, Gosho could've showed us the antidote just for the hype

edit:  now that conan's phone is dead he can't pretend Shinichi is calling him
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mihai wrote: edit:   now that conan's phone is dead he can't pretend Shinichi is calling him
Ooh, I like this detail.

Anyway, about the whole "DB seeing/knowing/somesuch". First off, there's always a way to write around or with things. If Gosho can think of a way, he'll use it. For instance, it seems dark in that cabin, so Haibara could tell the DB to turn off their lights/give them to her and then she could take the antidote, using the darkness as a cover. There's also two rooms in the cabin, so she could tell them to go to the other room when she transforms and knocks out the murderer. Also, depending on the clothes available in the backpacks, she could disguise herself as an adult that came to help.

Well, no matter what, we'll know next week :P
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sonoci wrote:
mihai wrote: edit:   now that conan's phone is dead he can't pretend Shinichi is calling him
Ooh, I like this detail.

Anyway, about the whole "DB seeing/knowing/somesuch". First off, there's always a way to write around or with things. If Gosho can think of a way, he'll use it. For instance, it seems dark in that cabin, so Haibara could tell the DB to turn off their lights/give them to her and then she could take the antidote, using the darkness as a cover. There's also two rooms in the cabin, so she could tell them to go to the other room when she transforms and knocks out the murderer. Also, depending on the clothes available in the backpacks, she could disguise herself as an adult that came to help.
I would be very impressed to see how Gosho write around how Haibara disappered  from a cabin with 1 exit, then again everyone could just be in a coma like in the Shiragami case nobody cared about Conan the instant Fake Shinichi showed up.
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sonoci wrote:Also, depending on the clothes available in the backpacks, she could disguise herself as an adult that came to help.
that could be a problem, if she doesn't having a spare change. But since I don't see Haibara considering taking the antidote before this case, I doubt she has a spare change of clothes. And since she came with the bike, not even Sera might have some as well :)

also, thinking about the possibility of having Shiho and Sera at the same place, made me remember for some reason your 4koma where Akai and Bourbon were acting like bros. Do you think you could do a similar one with Sera and Shiho, maybe with Shiho ordering Conan since she is the grown up and Conan is the kid? Or with Shiho and Sera at Agasa's house and Okiya trying to spy on them and after some failed attempts he comes in with a cream stew :) . I hope the ideas are interesting enough.
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The bell express train for the Bourbon showdown would be cool. Or at least some build-up. Why would Gosho mention it if not for something?

Also, every time Conan is sick(or just coughing) something awesome happens.
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I feel the need to point out the Karuta card case now :x

Conan obviously has slendersickness the number of times he has a cold
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hey guys.. you think this manga will show in anime ver at least 2013??or maybe 2014??
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Something- wrote: hey guys.. you think this manga will show in anime ver at least 2013??or maybe 2014??
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*cant wait for next chapter*
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Well, I did get a 4koma idea (actually ideas, but I haven't done anymore since my tablet decided to not cooperate) but it's not what you'd expect

Specifically this:
leokiko wrote: Also, every time Conan is sick(or just coughing) something awesome happens.
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Why is Conan so tall in the third frame? I have no idea \o/
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Wth, Haibara has an entire pharmacy in her purse. XD

OK, I'm interested. :V I just hope he follows through on the case (I'm going to be disappointed if it's another "misunderstanding" and not a real axe murderer) and on the plot stuff.
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sonoci wrote: Why is Conan so tall in the third frame? I have no idea \o/
well probably  Conan accidentally use Ai Prototype antidote  :P
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@sonoci:

LOL XD
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