Discussion Thread: Detective Conan Files 815-817 "Cabin Trap

[ShinRan4ver]

The way DBz ran into murderer while camping thing reminds me a bit of the Desperate Revival Arc, so maybe we will see the antidote used if this is a long case(4 file+)

Sera's "I run into because of Fate"explanation is A. Stalker B. SeraXShinichi.

I am going to guess this is a 3 file small case to serve as the lead in to the Bourbon Arc Conlcusion 6+ file case on the Bell Tree Express Train. Although if the DBz are all on the train that might not be a full scale confrontation with BO.

Couple things  from translation:

The amount of antidote in Haibara's box is more than 1 as she used "some".

The Bell Express Train and its similarity to Christie's Orient Express, to go into that much detail without an DC case on the train would be weird.

It shouldn't be hard for Sera to make the Camping->Cherry Blossom->Gunma deduction after she heard from Ran about the camping.

Now would it just be Sera/Conan and the couple local policemen on the scene or will Hack Inspector Yamamura show up? I am kinda intrigued.

[mihai]

after reading the chapter, it looked that Sera called Ran after she saw Agasa's Beetle. I dunno, but Sera still looks like a stalker though .

[Misztina]

That Bell Three Express smells like Uncle Jirokichi and Kaito Kid.

[Silver1412]

That Bell Three Express smells like Uncle Jirokichi and Kaito Kid.

I know, right ~nya? And I really hope we see Yamamura, he's annoying, but funny.

[James Rye]

http://www.dctp.ws/V77-Reader/V77-9Read/A4.html

THIS page sold the whole arc for me already. Good one, Ai. Keep that horndog in check, lol. XDDDDD

But don´t get your hopes up yet guys. I doubt Gosho will give us Shiho back *so soon*. <.<
He´ll rather tease us somehow next chapter then show us that she´s still Ai cause he intends to milk this for another 200 chapters before he shows us Shiho. Oh and that will be the moment when Gin put a bullet through her chest. Yeah, i can see him doing that, no kidding...

Oh, spell check, nice~ <3

[Conan 48:69]

Page 8: Sera's canine tooth is very cool.

Refer to OP 31 and see that Detective Boys were not scared of snakes. Conan is too careless for forgetting to charge his smartphone, the reason for Sera borrowing her smartphone is either to get Conan's fingerprints or Haibara's phone number.

How do Haibara called police while she is in forest with poor signal for using phone, don't tell me these 2 officers are bogus officers who are cahoots for a culprit who buried a corpse.

[ShinRan4ver]

after reading the chapter, it looked that Sera called Ran after she saw Agasa's Beetle. I dunno, but Sera still looks like a stalker though .

On page 5, Ran said "Conan-kun, I told you yesterday that he is going camping right?" to Sera.  Sera could easily got the camping location from Ran that day. even if she didn't my point is that given the Cherry Blossom thing is going on in Gunma the Camping-Cherry-Gunma deduction is easy. Sera definately didn't run into Conan by chance.

How do Haibara called police while she is in forest with poor signal for using phone, don't tell me these 2 officers are bogus officers who are cahoots for a culprit who buried a corpse.

I am against the bogus officer prediction because the culprit is likely alone if he is one of the two resident of the cabin and the victim is the other. Since there are two officer, the likelihood that the culprit had a partner in crime and they both got their hands on police uniforms are not high.

That Bell Three Express smells like Uncle Jirokichi and Kaito Kid.

That sounds more like it since you can't have a confrontation with BO in front of all DBz, still I think a murder case will happen on the Train and that rules out KID unless we are going to have 4 Master Piece 2.0.

[Female Apprentice]

File is out 
Am I mistaking or did the corpses become more scary in the recent files?
However, I think that the possibillity of Amuro following Sera/Conan/(Agasa) to Gunma is very likely, since his look when hearing of their camping-trip was a very strong one. And I also am of the opinion that the reference to Agatha Christie's "Murder on the Orient Express" has some meaning.
I love this book, btw. It would be amazing to see a "remake" of this case in DC 

[AICHAN]

Page 8: Sera's canine tooth is very cool.

Really?I think it's weird XDXD

http://www.dctp.ws/V77-Reader/V77-9Read/A4.html

THIS page sold the whole arc for me already. Good one, Ai. Keep that horndog in check, lol. XDDDDD

But don´t get your hopes up yet guys. I doubt Gosho will give us Shiho back *so soon*. <.<
He´ll rather tease us somehow next chapter then show us that she´s still Ai cause he intends to milk this for another 200 chapters before he shows us Shiho. Oh and that will be the moment when Gin put a bullet through her chest. Yeah, i can see him doing that, no kidding...

Oh, spell check, nice~ <3

I guess after this case Ai and Sera will meet,and according to Gosho that will be spectacular...I don't see how Ai/Sera encounter would be exceptionnal if Ai is in a child appearence XDXD
And Gin shooting on Shiho's chest...That would be so sad,and very interesting at the same time.That makes me think that I miss Gin and Vodka,it would be cool to see them in the next files...

[Stopwatch]

I'm personally thinking Haibara -> Shiho is the more likely simply because the DB are in a situation where unless they hide well and aren't found (extremely unlikely considering how bare it looked) and the fact there was only one entrance means they're trapped. As Shiho she could possibly deter him (using the axe if necessary ) and there are probably clothes in the couple's bags. I'd be pretty surprised if there weren't to be honest.
I just don't think there's time for Conan and co to locate the culprit before he gets in. He's realised Haibara called the police and the badge I think so he can guess what happened then, but it's a camping site, there'll be too many places to look.
Also, the culprit can't afford to leave the DB and the axe there because the holiday home or whatever it is would probably be searched and if he was digging *with* the body there and hadn't cleared away the axe I guess he didn't plan the murder that far ahead of time and was hurriedly trying to cover up after the fact. He panicked when he saw the DB so not thinking very clearly, (though Aoyama does still have culprits with remarkably good acting after killing someone they loved :x) and as others have noticed, the parallels with Desperate Revival make this unlikely to be a normal 'case' as such.
Mix that with the foreshadowing of the anti-APTX and I think we may have Haibara taking it next file. Well, that or he'll cheat tr- end the cliffhanger with the culprit running away for no reason at all o.O...

@Jd-: Thanks for adding the sign in my first post, my internet was horrible when I first tried to add it then I just utterly forgot D:

[ShinRan4ver]

I'm personally thinking Haibara -> Shiho is the more likely simply because the DB are in a situation where unless they hide well and aren't found (extremely unlikely considering how bare it looked) and the fact there was only one entrance means they're trapped. As Shiho she could possibly deter him (using the axe if necessary ) and there are probably clothes in the couple's bags. I'd be pretty surprised if there weren't to be honest.
I just don't think there's time for Conan and co to locate the culprit before he gets in. He's realised Haibara called the police and the badge I think so he can guess what happened then, but it's a camping site, there'll be too many places to look.
Also, the culprit can't afford to leave the DB and the axe there because the holiday home or whatever it is would probably be searched and if he was digging *with* the body there and hadn't cleared away the axe I guess he didn't plan the murder that far ahead of time and was hurriedly trying to cover up after the fact. He panicked when he saw the DB so not thinking very clearly, (though Aoyama does still have culprits with remarkably good acting after killing someone they loved :x) and as others have noticed, the parallels with Desperate Revival make this unlikely to be a normal 'case' as such.
Mix that with the foreshadowing of the anti-APTX and I think we may have Haibara taking it next file. Well, that or he'll cheat tr- end the cliffhanger with the culprit running away for no reason at all o.O...

@Jd-: Thanks for adding the sign in my first post, my internet was horrible when I first tried to add it then I just utterly forgot D:

My objection: How would Haibara hide the Ai->Shiho transformation when the DBz are in the same cabin??  The cabin isn't big and the transformation is painful->scream->attract attention. Since the effect is 24 hours how do you hide Haibara's 24 hour disapperance when there is the only exit of the cabin is blocked??

My guess is that Conan and Sera get there just before the Culprit finish off the DBz and take down the culprit.

[Stopwatch]

Did I say the DB wouldn't notice?

[ShinRan4ver]

Did I say the DB wouldn't notice?

DB notice transformation= Story over= impossible. In term of story development, the DBs noticing that Haibara=Shiho would make it impossible to write the story further. It is one thing for Heiji to know about APTX, totally different if Genta-kun know about it.

[mihai]

most likely Amuro got serious when he heard Agasa has a yellow Beetle and not a Subaru(360 I think). As for the "Ahotoxine" antidote, another reason tht makes me think it will be Conan taking it later on(maybe next case) is that he caught a cold again and Shinichi also had bad colds at least 2 other times when he returned

[Stopwatch]

Did I say the DB wouldn't notice?

DB notice transformation= Story over= impossible. In term of story development, the DBs noticing that Haibara=Shiho would make it impossible to write the story further. It is one thing for Heiji to know about APTX, totally different if Genta-kun know about it.

They've kept quiet about Conan using Shinichi's voice, plus this is most probably coming up to the conclusion of the penultimate arc and there's already hints that Ran will find out, plus if Akai and Sera stay in the story much longer (Akai will likely because Conan needs the FBI to take down the BO) then they know too...