Detective Conan Files 812-814 Discussion Thread: "Cold Case"

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the case is getting very interesting, I'm gonna miss Conan during the Golden week, along with most of the other weekly manga series that I read
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Thanks for the spoiler Waka^^
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But I really don't understand why Sera think she's a bad person...I think it's because she loves Shinichi...
I thought Okiya would force Conan to reveal his identity,but nothing happened...
Anyway,I hope we'll continue to have clues about Sera/Okiya/Amuro,but I guess we'll go back to normal cases,which is a good thing nevertheless...
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Judging from the Kanji Sera said "Bad Kid" not "Bad Person", so probably more had to do with her childhood than what she is doing at the present.
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damn...and I was hoping this would be proof that Sera=bourbon(=SA=Shuichi's sister too,when she met SA on street it was Vermouth fooling around and sera was like it can't be because I'm SA...lol stupid theory huh?)
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ShinRan4ver wrote:
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Judging from the Kanji Sera said "Bad Kid" not "Bad Person", so probably more had to do with her childhood than what she is doing at the present.
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Oh ok thanks for correcting me...
I guess the moment between Conan and Ran reminds her of the moments with her brother,when she was younger
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to be honest i hate if Sera = Akai sister being true. because it sound to similar to Eisuke-Rena situation. hate if gosho just repeat same thing but with different character. i do hope he more creative than that
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rrizqiw wrote: to be honest i hate if Sera = Akai sister being true. because it sound to similar to Eisuke-Rena situation. hate if gosho just repeat same thing but with different character. i do hope he more creative than that

I don't think it would be the same thing...Sera seems to be more active than Eisuke,and she probably will stay in the show after the Bourbon arc...The fact that she's Shuichi's sister adds more softness in Shu's character,I think their interactions would be awesome and dynamic,contrary to Eisuke/Rena story...


@Eva:thanks for the link
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I read in the spoiler box that Okiya called Conan "highschool detective Shinichi Kudo"!!!Conan is now aware that Okiya knows the truth about him!!!that's great^^Let's hope we'll have more info in the next case^^
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Thank you for the link, eva!

Hmmmm. I don't really know what to think about this chapter... I guess I'm kinda disappointed, haha. Whatever. We'll see.

As I read in the spoiler box the last page side note says something like
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"What is Sera mean for "Bad Child"...trivial puzzles are started at the same time, the hint is on next story..."

Do you think that's a 'real promise' that we'll get more of that in the next file...?
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AICHAN wrote:
rrizqiw wrote: to be honest i hate if Sera = Akai sister being true. because it sound to similar to Eisuke-Rena situation. hate if gosho just repeat same thing but with different character. i do hope he more creative than that

I don't think it would be the same thing...Sera seems to be more active than Eisuke,and she probably will stay in the show after the Bourbon arc...The fact that she's Shuichi's sister adds more softness in Shu's character,I think their interactions would be awesome and dynamic,contrary to Eisuke/Rena story...
arguably Eisuke is more active finding his sister than Sera (I.E showing people the photo. ask kogoro to do a case that somehow related to rena) while Sera seem enjoy her living with Ran and Conan instead finding her bother.

i actually more inclined thinking that Sera is Shinichi long lost friend. thought it lack of evidence
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rrizqiw wrote: arguably Eisuke is more active finding his sister than Sera (I.E showing people the photo. ask kogoro to do a case that somehow related to rena) while Sera seem enjoy her living with Ran and Conan instead finding her bother.

i actually more inclined thinking that Sera is Shinichi long lost friend. thought it lack of evidence
Well Eisuke had a lead. I mean, Rena was a news anchor, right? So she appeared on television a lot. Hence, Eisuke knew where to start looking and what questions to ask.

On Sera's end, it's a bit uncertain why she came over. I'd think the most likely scenario was that she heard her brother was dead and while watching the Japanese news (not uncommon if she was in the habit due to her past residency there and her brother's work) she happened to see Scar Akai during a report. There could be other reasons as well, however, all of them uncertain. The only lead that Sera had would have been Conan (or even Ai with Chek's photo theory, but Conan is more famous) and if she knew of her brother's standing in the FBI it wouldn't have been a smart choice to start asking about him right off the bat.

And in the Domestic Violence case, after she was chasing Scar Akai, she thought to herself "Though there's no way, is there". In other words, she's not really sure if her brother is alive.

For Eisuke, not only had he seen Rena on television in the spotlight, his sister was only missing, not officially announced dead (as the FBI would've/should've done for Shuu's family once he "died")

In other words, Eisuke was looking for Rena - a well-known news anchor that was known by many people - while Sera is looking for (Scar) Akai - a man presumably dead that was pretty antisocial in the first place who now "wanders around" as a nobody who doesn't speak to anyone. So, with targets almost completely opposite in nature, doesn't it make sense that the method of investigation is different as well?  ;)
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Amuro in next case, please Gosho.

He didn't appear much so far.
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leokiko wrote: Amuro in next case, please Gosho.

He didn't appear much so far.
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sonoci wrote:
leokiko wrote: Amuro in next case, please Gosho.

He didn't appear much so far.
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Agree. We had some epicness with Sera and Okiya, and now we need epicness with Amuro.
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AICHAN wrote: I don't think it would be the same thing...Sera seems to be more active than Eisuke,and she probably will stay in the show after the Bourbon arc...The fact that she's Shuichi's sister adds more softness in Shu's character,I think their interactions would be awesome and dynamic,contrary to Eisuke/Rena story...


@Eva:thanks for the link
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I read in the spoiler box that Okiya called Conan "highschool detective Shinichi Kudo"!!!Conan is now aware that Okiya knows the truth about him!!!that's great^^Let's hope we'll have more info in the next case^^
I agree, I also want Sera to stay until the end. Even if Eisuke had a fairly good intuition, he's nowhere near Sera's deduction skill. Think about what can the Sera-Kazuha-Ran trio can do, no criminal will be safe against them.
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after looking at chin. scans for chapter 814, if Okiya really says that to Conan, in the end he makes it seem like it wasn't meant for Conan. But I think he already put all the pieces together concerning Conan's situation and identity. I wonder if Conan did the same for Okiya
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