Detective Conan Files 812-814 Discussion Thread: "Cold Case"

[mihai]

I don't think Okiya is Yukiko in disguise because she does not have a brilliant mind like him. Okiya was able to solve cases like Conan.

i was thinking that at some time Yukiko came back home and met with Okiya, talked some, yukiko probably that Okiya was using a disguise and since she knew Shinichi let him stay there, decided to help him

[ShinRan4ver]

I don't think Okiya is Yukiko in disguise because she does not have a brilliant mind like him. Okiya was able to solve cases like Conan.

i was thinking that at some time Yukiko came back home and met with Okiya, talked some, yukiko probably that Okiya was using a disguise and since she knew Shinichi let him stay there, decided to help him

We also can't rule out that the Kudo family and the Akai family might know each other pretty well, I think Sera's familiarity with Shinichi might have something to do with it.

[aly_angelflight]

Spoiler: Potential solution-related material

I just noticed that puppy in the file... if the puppy was running around the dead guy's feet at some point, then he could've lost his balance and fell forward, and was killed due to the vase he was holding shattering. Ryousuke (the little boy) dropped some of the biscuits in the blood to make the more circular parts of the death character. Either the boy himself (while picking up the biscuits) or those flowers floating around the crime scene ended up making the linear part.

As for rebutting the suggestion that it was solely the flowers: the circles in the first case are pretty much the same exact size. However, nothing naturally made can be perfectly the same size, so it would have to be something manufactured like the biscuits. Also, the flowers aren't big enough once you visualize what those flowers would look like in 3D.

In the second case, the circular parts aren't equidistant, which is attributable to the fact that it was made by something of differing sizes like Japanese yen.

[miralana]

I don't think Okiya is Yukiko in disguise because she does not have a brilliant mind like him. Okiya was able to solve cases like Conan.

i was thinking that at some time Yukiko came back home and met with Okiya, talked some, yukiko probably that Okiya was using a disguise and since she knew Shinichi let him stay there, decided to help him

We also can't rule out that the Kudo family and the Shuichi family might know each other pretty well, I think Sera's familiarity with Shinichi might have something to do with it.

I like that idea! But don't you think that Shinichi/Conan would have said something about their (family)relationship...?

[ShinRan4ver]

I don't think Okiya is Yukiko in disguise because she does not have a brilliant mind like him. Okiya was able to solve cases like Conan.

i was thinking that at some time Yukiko came back home and met with Okiya, talked some, yukiko probably that Okiya was using a disguise and since she knew Shinichi let him stay there, decided to help him

We also can't rule out that the Kudo family and the Shuichi family might know each other pretty well, I think Sera's familiarity with Shinichi might have something to do with it.

I like that idea! But don't you think that Shinichi/Conan would have said something about their (family)relationship...?

It could just be something young Shinichi wasn't paying attention to, such as their family's relationship with  Kaito's family

[mihai]

it would be funny if their families might know each other and either Conan/Shinichi or Ran forgot. There is also the moment where Sera talks about her mother and says she big boobs so she's not worried about hers growing up, then she asks Ran "Isn't that right, Ran-chan?" like she knows Sera's mother.

another thing that popped into my mind is the fact that other than Ran's family and Agasa, we didn't get to other family friends or close acquaintances of the Kudou family other than Kuroba Touichi and Sharon Vineyard, which Conan figured out later on. So it would be a nice surprise if Sera's family was part of their acquaintances.

[Puto]

We also can't rule out that the Kudo family and the Shuichi family might know each other pretty well, I think Sera's familiarity with Shinichi might have something to do with it.

Small thing I should note here: Shūichi is Akai's given name; Akai's the family name. There is no Shūichi family.

[Wakarimashita]

Repost in the correct thread :

Spoil chapter 814 (case finish) :

Spoiler:

[img width=225 height=300]http://t.imgbox.com/aaoScFIe.jpg[/img] [img width=300 height=225]http://t.imgbox.com/aaqQk1t0.jpg[/img] [img width=300 height=225]http://t.imgbox.com/aamf736u.jpg[/img] [img width=225 height=300]http://t.imgbox.com/aasb8vhY.jpg[/img] [img width=225 height=300]http://t.imgbox.com/aaeIbw3O.jpg[/img]

The last sentence of Seya "After all, I'm a bad person"

Btw 76th volume will be out june 18th.

[Jason_french]

I'm speechless after seeing the last pic ! I'm really starting to love Sera  :)
I can't wait to see the full chapter... Please, tell me Gosho won't make a break after this
We want MORE !

[stella007]

No, I don't think he will take a break. After all, Golden Week is soon. And I love the last panel.  The ConRan scene was epic and I don't think Sera is that kind of bad person that we would think. ^^ (Bourbon *cough*) I wanna know why Gosho draw a young Shinichi and a young Ran in the background and why Ran hold Conan's shoulders. Do you know why?

[Wakarimashita]

I'm speechless after seeing the last pic ! I'm really starting to love Sera 
I can't wait to see the full chapter... Please, tell me Gosho won't make a break after this

There will be the traditional golden week break after file 815 (which will be published in the double issue #21-22).

[User 4869]

Repost in the correct thread :

Spoil chapter 814 (case finish) :

Spoiler:

[img width=225 height=300]http://t.imgbox.com/aaoScFIe.jpg[/img] [img width=300 height=225]http://t.imgbox.com/aaqQk1t0.jpg[/img] [img width=300 height=225]http://t.imgbox.com/aamf736u.jpg[/img] [img width=225 height=300]http://t.imgbox.com/aasb8vhY.jpg[/img] [img width=225 height=300]http://t.imgbox.com/aaeIbw3O.jpg[/img]

The last sentence of Seya "After all, I'm a bad person"

Btw 76th volume will be out june 18th.

Spoiler:

What's the meaning of the last pic? Sera is a bad person? For
- She really did something bad? or
- She actually love Shinichi. And feeling bad for get between him and Ran?

Please tell me she's not gonna leave

[rrizqiw]

Repost in the correct thread :

Spoil chapter 814 (case finish) :

Spoiler:

[img width=225 height=300]http://t.imgbox.com/aaoScFIe.jpg[/img] [img width=300 height=225]http://t.imgbox.com/aaqQk1t0.jpg[/img] [img width=300 height=225]http://t.imgbox.com/aamf736u.jpg[/img] [img width=225 height=300]http://t.imgbox.com/aasb8vhY.jpg[/img] [img width=225 height=300]http://t.imgbox.com/aaeIbw3O.jpg[/img]

The last sentence of Seya "After all, I'm a bad person"

Btw 76th volume will be out june 18th.

Spoiler:

What's the meaning of the last pic? Sera is a bad person? For
- She really did something bad? or
- She actually love Shinichi. And feeling bad for get between him and Ran?

Please tell me she's not gonna leave

well assuming chek theory is correct. it can be

Spoiler:

Letting her bother dead.

thought at this point i have doubt on Sera = Akai sister theory.

[Conan 48:69]

Spoiler:

The reason for Sera crying and think "I am a bad child" is when she sees Ran and Conan acted like siblings and recalled about her childhood memory for being siblings. If Akai is really her brother, then Sera was punished by her brother frequently for being mischievous.

My silly prediction for File 815 page 2 is the childhood memory of the moment between little Sera and little Akai, but their faces are covered in darkness (in order not to reveal they are siblings). Suddenly the scene changed to school, Ran and Sonoko called Sera who is in a daze then Sera noticed they called her.


Example like that for Jodie and Vermouth 20 years ago
http://www.citymanga.com/detective_cona ... er-426/03/

Then it will reveal Jodie's face later
http://www.citymanga.com/detective_conan/chapter-433/

[Stopwatch]

No, I don't think he will take a break. After all, Golden Week is soon. And I love the last panel.  The ConRan scene was epic and I don't think Sera is that kind of bad person that we would think. ^^ (Bourbon *cough*) I wanna know why Gosho draw a young Shinichi and a young Ran in the background and why Ran hold Conan's shoulders. Do you know why?

Spoiler:

From what Zenthi said in the spoiler c-box it appears as though Conan was 'reading' out a text from 'Shinichi-niichan' which included him saying he was relieved that 'dad was right' about the case. Somehow, the way he said it reminded Ran of something that'd happened to her and Shinichi when they were younger (or possibly he just acted too like himself when reading it :x) and she grabbed his shoulders due to that.
That seems to be the gist of it...