Shinichi+Ran

[Misztina]

For those who haven't read, James Rye wrote very interesting things about Shinichi's character and stuff in the Ai+Conan thread, which also contained some ShinxRan things as well. My reply to that was't fitting for an Ai-Coan topic, so I'll put it here.

Anyways a bigger or more obvious change in Shinichi's character would be that he would put his feelings in the first place. If that happens that will mark the end of DC. I keep returning to Desperate Revival, because it was almost like an ending to DC. Ran let him go to do his job and he almost went back a told her his feelings. Somehow I cannot really imagine this scene in the future. If Shinichi really wants to get together with Ran he will have to make a better balance between cases and love-life. In my opinion at least. But sometimes I feel Gosho himself is a bit "old-fashioned" and won't cross the current boundaries of DC stories.

In the end I'm sure he will defeat the BO with the help of others, but he will have his "I got you"-moment when everyone is amazed by Shinichi. What I really wonder about is that what will happen between him and Ran.
Surely, the whole series is about Shinichi's "genious" plan "I'll tell her myself in the end", but I wouldn't wonder if Ran told him: "I knew it, you silly". That is why I don't expect that Ran will find out who Shinichi is until the end is really near. It is a pity, but that's DC's story. However there was a nice case in Volume 38 if I remember crrectly about Wlfface and identities and heh... it seems like Conan needs to be "defeated" in order to reveal his true identity. Maybe his mask will fall off when he thinks Ran is dead (but she is not of course) and then happy ending. But who will make him loose his face? Kogoro? That would be a shock. O.O Or the boss of the BO?

[ShinRan36]

Yeah I also think so, but in my opinion, ran is the most important "thing" in shinichis life..
He cares about her more than his own life..
And he hadnt to decide between ran and the cases, because ran isnt against his"detective side", she LOVES his "detective side"..

[Conia]

Yeah I also think so, but in my opinion, ran is the most important "thing" in shinichis life..
He cares about her more than his own life..
And he hadnt to decide between ran and the cases, because ran isnt against his"detective side", she LOVES his "detective side"..

I think Ran hates his "detective side" more than she loves it
And I agree: He cares about her more than his own life.

[ShinRan36]

Yeah I also think so, but in my opinion, ran is the most important "thing" in shinichis life..
He cares about her more than his own life..
And he hadnt to decide between ran and the cases, because ran isnt against his"detective side", she LOVES his "detective side"..

I think Ran hates his "detective side" more than she loves it
And I agree: He cares about her more than his own life.

I really dont think that she hates his detective side.. She just says it. But if you see the episodes, you can notice that she likes his art, like kazuha does with heijis detective side. But they behave like they dont like it. IN MY OPINION

[kirite]

She fell in love with Shinichi because he is "cool and reliable" during cases.  Or else he'll still be her silly childhood best friend.  She doesn't tell him that in his face though, his head doesn't need to get any bigger.  She worries about him when he gets into trouble (he has a tendency to rush into things without thinking it over) but she doesn't disturb him when he's working and just waits for him on the side.

At the same time Shinichi likes Ran because she's stubborn and has a strong sense of justice.  He doesn't tell her that to her face though, he instead says she's "troublesome" when she does that xD.  He worries about her when she gets into trouble (she has a tendency to rush into things without thinking about her own safety) but he knows he can't stop her and just tries to protect her/instruct her the best as he can.

[James Rye]

DON'T SPOIL!! now I know this question is gonna be answered before episode 700   

Ehhh.

Just kidding~

Now we can be sure that Ai ahd a second sister.

Spoiler:

Kirite!!!
Why didn´t you told us!?

For those who haven't read, James Rye wrote very interesting things about Shinichi's character and stuff in the Ai+Conan thread, which also contained some ShinxRan things as well. My reply to that was't fitting for an Ai-Coan topic, so I'll put it here.

Thanks for the compliment.
I´m looking forward to your reply. *bow*

Anyways a bigger or more obvious change in Shinichi's character would be that he would put his feelings in the first place. If that happens that will mark the end of DC. I keep returning to Desperate Revival, because it was almost like an ending to DC. Ran let him go to do his job and he almost went back a told her his feelings. Somehow I cannot really imagine this scene in the future. If Shinichi really wants to get together with Ran he will have to make a better balance between cases and love-life. In my opinion at least. But sometimes I feel Gosho himself is a bit "old-fashioned" and won't cross the current boundaries of DC stories.

I agree with it, his feelings for Ran are undoubtly strong but he´s always ready to let her wait to solve the cases which are dropping before his feets. Not that it´s a bad thing (but i don´t find it good either ) but at the restaurant where he wanted to tell her something "really important", at the first time he heard the scream he wasn´t with her anymore though he really fighted hard not to
run to the case asap.
Ran noticed that too that he was unconcentrated (which was obvious ), so well why to held him at her side when he isn´t able to concentrate at her properly? Yeah, that´s sound hard and unfair, but i would have liked it when he would have acted more like an adult and said that it´s too noisy here and Megure and Tagaki aren´t amateurs, they can solve a case once all by themself too and that they better go to another place for the thing he wanted to tell her.
But i´m really glad he didn´t. *puh*

In the end I'm sure he will defeat the BO with the help of others, but he will have his "I got you"-moment when everyone is amazed by Shinichi. What I really wonder about is that what will happen between him and Ran.
Surely, the whole series is about Shinichi's "genious" plan "I'll tell her myself in the end", but I wouldn't wonder if Ran told him: "I knew it, you silly". That is why I don't expect that Ran will find out who Shinichi is until the end is really near. It is a pity, but that's DC's story. However there was a nice case in Volume 38 if I remember crrectly about Wlfface and identities and heh... it seems like Conan needs to be "defeated" in order to reveal his true identity. Maybe his mask will fall off when he thinks Ran is dead (but she is not of course) and then happy ending. But who will make him loose his face? Kogoro? That would be a shock. O.O Or the boss of the BO?

If she dies and he´ll see or know it he will cry rivers like Ai did..... hard to imagine, but that would be an hell of a picture to watch! (no, i´m not sadistic) 8)

Yeah I also think so, but in my opinion, ran is the most important "thing" in shinichis life..
He cares about her more than his own life..
And he hadnt to decide between ran and the cases, because ran isnt against his"detective side", she LOVES his "detective side"..

I think Ran hates his "detective side" more than she loves it
And I agree: He cares about her more than his own life.

I really dont think that she hates his detective side.. She just says it. But if you see the episodes, you can notice that she likes his art, like kazuha does with heijis detective side. But they behave like they dont like it. IN MY OPINION

You don´t let wait the "most important person" in your life or lies to her. That´s what i think. I believe Shinichi still has to go a long way to fully understand Ran as who she is. As C.E. he has already witness her how she is without him around or when she thinks she´s alone. But still, there´s a lot he probably didn´t noticed like so often. Well, that´s another story. Too tired to write it down.

I guess she likes his detective side as how he brightens up when doing so. What she probably doesn´t like is that he is only like that when there´s a case but not only with being with her and also that she can only watch it from the sidelines cause he always "leave" her to be "one-one" with the case. XD
She said herself she´s a "super-dummy" for liking that side of him. Of cource she didn´t meant it in a negative way, but she also can´t be really happy with only that.

And agree with that he cares alot for her. With the "more then his own life" i would be a bit careful since he also risked his life when saving Ai at the bus bomb case, so the same could be said for her too. And we had that dispute already and agreed that he would do that for everyone he protects.^^

@kirite
One of the best summ-ups of Ranichi i readed so far.
The best is still:

Shinichi aad Ran wooves each other. End of story.

[karisama]

As for the bashing, I meant the person who said the Shiragami case was fanservice.

I don't get it.  So if I'm a ShinRan fan I have to like the Shiragami case? 

That's not what I meant. If you don't like a ShinRan case, fine, but please don't bash it without giving a proper reason. c:

[ziraulo]

*stares at James Rye's explanation*


......James Rye, you are so right! and I love the ShinRan summary!

[bluekaitou1412]

I wrote something for all of you guys.

ShinRan

*flees*

[mangaluva]

ANGST! *sobs and glomps* gomen, i'm an angst-addict 

[ShinRan36]

I wrote something for all of you guys.

ShinRan

*flees*

you are so greeeaaat =))

[James Rye]

*stares at James Rye's explanation*


......James Rye, you are so right! and I love the ShinRan summary!

Do you mean my "long ass pots" in teh Ai + Conan thread or my "short" post here?^^"
Anyway, thank you.
But the "wooves" part means they do love each other but without knowing the one they love. Well, that´s not a point to love someone, but maybe a point for a good future relationship (like the old examples YusakuxYukiko and KogoroxEri).^g^

I wrote something for all of you guys.

ShinRan

*flees*

Hm, quite good, wish you would have brought others (Agasa, Ai, Heiji, etc) more into and him shuting up from them, not listening to them, ignoring their arguments/speechs etc., but still a good insight of a possible Shinichi/Conan if Ran would die before he could explain everything to her. 8)

[Conia]

I wrote something for all of you guys.

ShinRan

*flees*

This is exactly how I imagine how Conan would feel in that situation, but I can't see him doing nothing, I see him trying to fight, trying to get on his feet again to solve a case again.

[Abs.]

ShinRan fans are cheated by the dearth of "fan service" scenes as far as flashbacks to Shinichi and Ran before this whole shrank-into-a-gradeschooler's-body-and-on-the-run-from-terrible-secret-organization thing took place.

Shinichi + Ran on the plane to Los Angeles.
Shinichi + Ran in New York.
Shinichi + Ran on that ski trip in middle school.
Shinichi + Ran's childhood adventure.

...That's about it, isn't it?

Everything else is tainted by the plot:

For Shinichi, it's that he has to protect Ran from the organization (and therefore also from knowing the truth).
For Ran, of course she would think about Shinichi more... the damn kid has been gone for who knows how long already!

In this type of situation, it's easy for each of them (especially at their age) to mistake their feelings for love.  And we, as the readers/viewers, don't have quite enough to go on to say for certain that's not the case.

[bluekaitou1412]

ANGST! *sobs and glomps* gomen, i'm an angst-addict 

Hm, quite good, wish you would have brought others (Agasa, Ai, Heiji, etc) more into and him shuting up from them, not listening to them, ignoring their arguments/speechs etc., but still a good insight of a possible Shinichi/Conan if Ran would die before he could explain everything to her. 8)

This is exactly how I imagine how Conan would feel in that situation, but I can't see him doing nothing, I see him trying to fight, trying to get on his feet again to solve a case again.

you are so greeeaaat =))

Wow. They read it.