a new war is about to begin:Okiya & shiho VS amuro & sera //

[AICHAN]

I don't know why it wouldn't be possible with Okiya and Ai...

There's a difference between Conan & Ran and Ai & Okiya...
One is a difference of 10 years while the other 20 years.. it would be more pedophile than romantic/cute for Okiya if he has "romantic situations" with Haibara... for an adult who's 27 years old :s

I'm sorry but I can't imagine romantic situations of Okiya&Haibara ; it just doesn't fit for me.

Shiho is an adult in a child form,same as Conan...I don't see the difference between Ai/Okiya and Conan/Ran...or are you saying that Ran is a pedophile?XDDD

And I guess I don't have the same definition of romantic situations as you...
I mean cute scene between them,like both of them having a lunch together,or Okiya taking care of Ai if she's sick...which is not shocking in my point of view...it doesn't necessary require physical contact between them...

Ai can use the antidote to be in her adult form sometimes...

I can't really see that happen too sorry. I don't really think Haibara feels/will feel love for Okiya and at the point where she's gonna take APTX antidote to be with Okiya. Plus, it would put her in danger if she does things like that.

If she takes the antidote while she's in the house,I guess it's ok...
We don't know how Haibara will react,she's kinda unpredictable sometimes...

Nevermind,if something happens between them,I think it'll be after the BO is defeated...

In my mind , Ai will investigate on Okiya,until she discover that Okiya=Dai=Akai...And then she'll hate Akai for a long time,but after seeing that he protects her and that he's a good person,she'll forgive him...and then maybe she'll feel something more for Akai...

It's not as if she would fall in love with Okiya all of a sudden...I don't want them to go out and act like a couple or something like that...I want to see how their interaction will evoluate,considering the dangerous situations they will live together in the future...
That's why I think it's possible for them to build a strong relationship even if Ai is in a child body,even if Okiya is older than her(which is not a problem for me)...

[Incomplete-tantei]

I don't know why it wouldn't be possible with Okiya and Ai...

There's a difference between Conan & Ran and Ai & Okiya...
One is a difference of 10 years while the other 20 years.. it would be more pedophile than romantic/cute for Okiya if he has "romantic situations" with Haibara... for an adult who's 27 years old :s

I'm sorry but I can't imagine romantic situations of Okiya&Haibara ; it just doesn't fit for me.

Shiho is an adult in a child form,same as Conan...I don't see the difference between Ai/Okiya and Conan/Ran...or are you saying that Ran is a pedophile?XDDD

And I guess I don't have the same definition of romantic situations as you...
I mean cute scene between them,like both of them having a lunch together,or Okiya taking care of Ai if she's sick...which is not shocking in my point of view...it doesn't necessary require physical contact between them...

I didn't say Ran was pedophile it's the opposite, it is not shocking for a 17 year old to have that sort of relationship with Conan who's in a 7 year old body, she just considers him as a "little brother" while it's being "romantic".
If Okiya and Haibara have just those sort of "cute scenes" then it cannot be that shocking, just not exaggerate it. Because if it is physical contact.. Okiya being 27 years old and Haibara 7 years old(body).. yeah Okiya would be considered as a pedophile xD

In my mind , Ai will investigate on Okiya,until she discover that Okiya=Dai=Akai...

Well, I think Haibara is pretty sure Okiya = Dai
All that's left for her is to find the crucial proof of Okiya being Dai. Since she failed for the scarf.

[AICHAN]

I don't know why it wouldn't be possible with Okiya and Ai...

There's a difference between Conan & Ran and Ai & Okiya...
One is a difference of 10 years while the other 20 years.. it would be more pedophile than romantic/cute for Okiya if he has "romantic situations" with Haibara... for an adult who's 27 years old :s

I'm sorry but I can't imagine romantic situations of Okiya&Haibara ; it just doesn't fit for me.

Shiho is an adult in a child form,same as Conan...I don't see the difference between Ai/Okiya and Conan/Ran...or are you saying that Ran is a pedophile?XDDD

And I guess I don't have the same definition of romantic situations as you...
I mean cute scene between them,like both of them having a lunch together,or Okiya taking care of Ai if she's sick...which is not shocking in my point of view...it doesn't necessary require physical contact between them...

I didn't say Ran was pedophile it's the opposite, it is not shocking for a 17 year old to have that sort of relationship with Conan who's in a 7 year old body, she just considers him as a "little brother" while it's being "romantic".

Sorry but for me it's the same situation...If it's not wrong for Ran,then it's not wrong for Okiya...The only difference is that Okiya probably knows that Ai is an adult in reality,and in his case,I wouldn't find it weird if there were cute scenes between him and Ai...

And as I said,by "romantic"I didn't mean physical contacts,but only some cute scenes between them,to show that they care about each other....I really don't understand why it's so shocking for some people

Well, I think Haibara is pretty sure Okiya = Dai
All that's left for her is to find the crucial proof of Okiya being Dai. Since she failed for the scarf.

But she doesn't know that Dai=Akai, an FBI agent who caused the death of Akemi...and after knowing that she'll probably hate him for a long time...
That's why I'm saying the development of their relationship would be interesting,at least it won't be static...

[Corpse Reviver]

I don't know why it wouldn't be possible with Okiya and Ai...

There's a difference between Conan & Ran and Ai & Okiya...
One is a difference of 10 years while the other 20 years.. it would be more pedophile than romantic/cute for Okiya if he has "romantic situations" with Haibara... for an adult who's 27 years old :s

Hmm, then there is a possibility of Okiya also being related to Ai as a family member or from a friend. He did say he promised something afterall which is why he seems to be looking out for her. As for closeness-she did start to trust him as well. Not ruling out the couple part 100% though.   Ai hasn't met Amuro yet, lol. He is also like what 27? 

I would want to know the number of slaps Akai would get if Ai were to find him.

[AICHAN]

I would want to know the number of slaps Akai would get if Ai were to find him.

LOL I can't wait to see that!!!
Ai can slap someone very hard(she slapped Genta once),so I think one slap is enough to punish Akai XDXD

[Incomplete-tantei]

Ai hasn't met Amuro yet, lol. He is also like what 27? 

Amuro is 29.

[Kleene Onigiri]

The only thing I can think of this thread is that I am eternally squicked out by the thought of Okiya and Haibara being in "romantic situations". SEVEN YEAR OLD GIRL, MAN. Only physically, but that's more than enough for epic squick.

Totally agreed. Plus, Haibara even being 18-20 years old is still a bit too young for somone like Okiya lol.

He's 27, that seems fine to me.

That would seem fine in normal life, but in DC I think it wouldn't seem that "fine".
Couples usually have 2-3 years of difference max.

Age differences feel smaller the older the couple are. For example, a 5-year age difference is creepy if one's 13 and one's 18. It's not if one's 33 and the other's 38.

If both are over about 18 or 19, I'm not going to squick too much about age differences. BUT WHEN SHE IS PHYSICALLY SEVEN IT  IS CREEPY NO MATTER WHAT.

^this
Tho it's not so creepy when Okiya/Akai knows that she's actually 18 in the body of a child.

I'd like to see Ai telling Okiya straight in his face that he's a lolicon XD

[Suutashi]

a lot of cute scenes between Conan and Ran ,and nobody is disgusted by them...

Actually, they are reeeeeally dancing on the edge of grossing me out with that in the anime lately, especially in the theme songs.

But Ai's been creepily over-sexualized even in her seven-year-old form since the beginning, so I won't be surprised if Gosho is going for this. Disappointed, but not surprised.

I don't really watch the anime, but I did see a recent title sequence with Ran in a white dress in some kinda post-apocalyptic scenario, and it ends with Ran lying on top of Shinichi, looking down on him in a typical romantic pose that generally leads to snogging and more.

Except he's not Shinichi. He's Conan. SHE'S LYING ON TOP OF AND LOOKING LOVINGLY DOWN AT A SEVEN YEAR OLD BOY AND IT IS CREEPY.

^ I agree. I actually wonder if it would be more disturbing if Ran was in Conan's secret while looking at him like that.

[Puto]

The people calling out 'pedophile' in this thread should think of something. The reason 'age of consent' exists is because a child's mind isn't capable of handling a sexual relationship. Conan's mind is an adult's -- that problem doesn't exist.

And from a legal point of view, 'age' is given by the time passed since you were born until today. Shin'ichi was born 17 years ago -- independently of whether his body now looks like that of a child's or not, his age is still technically 17.

So technically, there's nothing wrong with a Conan/Ran relationship or a Haibara/Whoever relationship. But that's technically. I can understand why some people would be creeped out, but I don't because they're not REALLY children.

[mangaluva]

It's less a consent issue and more just the fact that the image of a child in a sexual relationship is just wrong. Even if mentally they're not actually children, physically they do look like kids, and our brains are programmed to see a child in a sexual relationship with an adult as squicky and unhealthy.

[Kor]

Well, for some reason I knew from the start that this thread would turn out this way.
Gotta question the title of this thread, though. If its AxB and CxD, how can it lead to a couple's war? There isn't a similar element between the couples.

Oh well, I'm locking this.