Shinichi+Ran

[IHKF]

Spoiler: Partial response to IHKF

I think you might have misunderstood my post. Though I don't have smilies littering it, I was in no means being overly serious or mad or anything.

My mood while writing that (and this as well) was pretty much between "Whaaa-? xD" and "Whaaa-?  ???"

Anyway

Worrying about Ran: There isn't a scene needed, actually, now that I think about it. What can be "cited" is the fact that he goes so far out of his way to keep his secret from her. Did he really hide it from Hattori? Does he seem to care that Agasa and his parents know? The one he worries about is Ran. He actually gets help from Hattori, help that could endanger Hattori - and he knows that. He keeps Ran out of it because he knows that she would want to help, and that would put her in danger.

Nope, it's still a weak point. I mean on the whole that the whole protecting people bit is a pointless debate. It's a subjective matter - especially when it's someone like Shinichi who likes everybody to be safe. The weak stance comes from the fact that with this trait someone could argue that Shinichi is in love with anyone, just because he protected them. There's simply no way to judge anything on his protective nature. Most people think that in regards to this topic that if there was ever a choice Shinichi had to make between saving Person A (and by this I mean ANYONE - Hattori, one of the DB) or Ran, that he would likely choose Ran first.

Did I ever say it was a comedy? I said it was a parody/satire. A parody, by definition, "a humorous or satirical imitation of a serious piece of literature or writing". In other words, it mocks something...mocking doesn't always equal comedy. Shakespeare was around a long time ago, my friend, no one would've written it down that he went "Yeah, that was a satire". There's also a subtle nature to satires: they're not exactly straightforward.

Again: we haven't defined love. Saying "truly love someone" is a matter of opinion, as is how one should act when "truly in love". This is one instance where Shinichi's "one truth" doesn't exist: if it did, a clear definition for love would've been in the dictionary a loooooong time ago.

Also, for the "saving Ran by killing a criminal" thing, I don't think that would really be the case. Ran herself has a high value for human life, shown by her saving Vermouth/the Serial killer in New York. If Shinichi killed someone, even if it were for her sake, I don't think she'd hug him. I think she'd slap him/yell "What were you thinking". Going against everything for the person you love is one thing, but going against your personal morals that you've held for years is COMPLETELY different. To start, the action of, essentially, going OOC would make you someone else, someone who the other did not fall in love with. I don't believe anyone in love would want the one they love so much to change for their sake. That would actually be kind of horrible. "You should change" is something that should never be on a lovers mind, IMO  :-\

Well my mood wasn't meant to be hostile either, which is why the "XD" was pretty much everywhere. I do that so people know I'm not trying to be mean. lol
But he also goes out of his way to keep it from the kids and I think he gave up early on with Hattori because he figured: "He's my Osakan counterpart... he'll figure me out anyways...". And once again, I believe that Shinichi has a CRUSH but is not IN LOVE with Ran.

fffffffffffffffffffffFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF.... D: WHAT DO YOU THINK I WAS TRYING TO SAY?! DX I was saying that Shinichi's affection cannot be traced by how he protects people or how worried he gets. He protects EVERYBODY and worries about EVERYONE so I didn't see how it could make much sense to say that him "worrying"about her and running around screaming her name meant he loved her... BECAUSE HE DOES IT WITH EVERYONE! XD But I doubt it, I think he'd go for whatever is practical. He's a man of logic. He does what he HAS to do, not what he wants to.

I'm not going to argue about the R&J thing. As far as I'm concerned, I'm wiping my hands clean of it and I refuse to seriously acknowledge any posts about it. There is nothing any of you can say to convince me that opinion is fact. XD

*Nods* Which would cause some REAL conflict for once, thus making the story more interesting and more fun to read as well as give us some CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT! And if it's to SAVE the person you love and you have no CHOICE, first of all, it isn't an innocent civilian, second of all, if they don't die for whatever reason the person you loves dies, wouldn't YOU pull the trigger? I know I would. If it meant saving my possible future husband from death there's no way I'd hesitate...but of course they better run if it's my KID they're after. (The love for your child is supposed to be unconditional so... XD)
He wouldn't need to change, but if he truly loved her and the only way to save her, and there was absolutely nothing he could do, was to pull a trigger at say... Gin's head, I don't think he'd hesitate. Granted you typically will change when you pull the trigger for the first time.. *Has been watching WAY too much Chuck* But what choice would you have if you could save their life? Even if they did hate you it would be worth it to see that they're alive and well even if they want nothing to do with you.

1. I don't think so. Yuusaku offered help in the first place, and if I'm not mistaken, he's getting help from the frickin' INTERPOL. As well as the fact that it probably wouldn't be Yuusaku doing all the work, either. Knowing Shinichi, he'll try to do what he can. He'll still be the one doing the hands-on work. Besides, if you were trying to protect someone, you would try to get as far away from that person as you can so the bad guys can't make the connection between the two of you, right? It's similar to Shinichi's method, except that he only pretended to leave so he could be able to drive them away and protect the people close to him at the same time.

2. I don't think you got my point. I'm just saying that too much need is bad because it makes you depend on the that person too much. Believe it or not, that's what need does to you. If you truly need a person, you'd be helpless without him/her, probably like the dependence of an infant to his/her mother. Or Bella to Edward. Last time I checked, Ran still goes on with her life. The worst she's done so far is cry over him. She hasn't been extremely depressed or suicidal over it, right? Besides, sonoci's post on love pretty much cancels out your "want/need" argument.

3. Last time I checked, Sonoko doesn't like him that much. As you can see, they're not that close at all. Sonoko just drops in every once in a while to tease or join in the conversation.

We may not know what triggers his tears, but we do know what triggers a slight weakness in him. I don't think you see it, but like someone else has stated before, Shinichi has a tendency to panic when it's Ran who's in danger. When it's another person in danger, he will remain calm and do what he can. But if Ran so much as faints, he'll start shaking her awake before calling an ambulance. Yes, that's canon. It was in the Chinese Deja Vu in the Rain case. Go. Look. It. Up.


A lot of people really seem to misunderstand the point of Romeo and Juliet, myself once included. It might take several reads, but if you read it and understand it, you will notice that Shakespeare wasn't trying to make the love story of the century: He was trying to point out that love at first sight, getting caught in passion and making rash decisions are pretty crappy moves in the game called life.

As for demanding quotes? Unless you're my English teacher, who has a part of the blackboard dedicated for the "quote of the day", asking for quotes is pretty pointless, especially if the point is rather obvious.

1. Yes, because that's his son and he loves him. That doesn't mean that he would be free to help him when he needs. It would likely be his mother helping a great portion of the time.
And okay... so... what you're saying is that he DOESN'T love Ran? XD

2. No, not helpless, just a little lost sometimes. You've gotten so used to having them in your life and it's difficult to move past that point. Ran cries. That is showing that she needs him there. Is that such a bad thing? (Well... if she does it too often then you have a problem but... XD) YOU DON'T NEED TO BE SUICIDAL OR DEPRESSED. Just SAD works TOO, you know. Need CAN do that to a person but it usually DOESN'T. That's a really pessimistic view on need, you know. ^^'
As for the sonoci thing... *Points to first part of the post*

3. And? That doesn't mean she couldn't replace Ran. She could EASILY take Ran's place if she wanted to.

No... not really. I see absolutely NO DIFFERENCE in the way he reacts to Ran being in danger as oppose to reacting to anybody else. I don't know why the Paper planes case covered that like it did, considering THERE ARE NO CHANGES. XD There is no difference... at all... and if Gosho thinks there is he needs to work on that.
And umm... he shakes... anybody... who... faints... that's kind of... what you DO. XD

*Facepalms* Not the R&J thing again... *Throws hands up* No... nope... I'm... not... doing this... FACT. OR. OPINION. XD

[ziraulo]

1. If I say that he's doing it to protect Ran, you'll say something like, "What about the others? Agasa, his family, etc.". So I just said "people close to him". If it's gonna yield the same result anyway, I think it would be better to say something on the more general level, right?

2. There's my point. Is it such a bad thing for Ran to cry? Because seriously, some people think so. But still, love does not revolve on need alone.

3. Easily take her place how? By just sitting there and absorbing all of Shinichi's Holmes rants? Sonoko isn't that kind of girl.

[Partsu]

IHKF...I almost started insulting you...
Ran & Shinichi belong to eachother.Author has stated that.
there will be NO Shinichi x [insert name of someone other than Ran]
and there will be NO Ran x [insert name of someone other than Shinichi]

Spoiler: to everyone who don't support ShinRan

Conia still likes you

[sonoci]

As for the sonoci thing... *Points to first part of the post*

Uh...you do know that the "sonoci thing" that ziraluo was referring to...was not in any of the post you quoted.  It was before.

*Facepalms* Not the R&J thing again... *Throws hands up* No... nope... I'm... not... doing this... FACT. OR. OPINION. XD

As for "the R&J thing again" I believe that ziraulo posted before you posted that you weren't going to go into that anymore, how could s/he possibly know that you weren't going to respond to it? 

Just for the record, I didn't ever say I thought you were "hostile". ...In fact, I'm not sure if I used the word "hostile" either  I think it was "mad" and "overly serious". ...And...I was just saying that since you had said "whoa! takin' this seriously". I wasn't berating you, I was just making it clear that I wasn't taking it all that seriously

Um, you do realize the whole "fact is fact and opinion is opinion" also works for you, right? No part of this conversation can take in facts, that's why it's going on. If there were facts, they would've been brought up in the first place. That's what the conversation is about right now: persuasion. And so far we've all been pretty polite about it. So...since the point is persuasion (which can't really rely on facts, including you) saying that you won't participate because "opinions are opinions" is kind of like saying "these words are words and I can't prove that they're numbers"  In other words, we know they're opinions. We know they're not facts. We're just using persuasion

@Partsu: For the record, I'm actually not a ShinRan, and although this is a ShinRan thread, such an insult shouldn't be said  It is simply mispirited and rude, it makes no valid point 

[kholoudsafir]

@Partsu: For the record, I'm actually not a ShinRan, and although this is a ShinRan thread, such an insult shouldn't be said  It is simply mispirited and rude, it makes no valid point 

^^ This.

We are proud here in the ShinRan thread to go in discussions with people who do not support this pair, we do not mind any discussion as long as there is no personal insults, exchanging opinions is more than welcome in any civilized nation.

[Vylash]

Spoiler: to everyone who don't support ShinRan

And Partsu does too

Because that's how you get your point across

[Borealis]

Romeo and Juliet is both the most overused and worst example of true love in the entire universe, outside of Edward and Bella, which was partially based off of them in the first place. Better examples:
Beatrice and Benedict
Hermia and Lysander
Han and Leia
Westley and Buttercup
Sam Vimes and Sybil Ramkin
Beauty and the Beast
Small creatures that live under rocks mating

...are all better examples of true love than Romeo and Juliet.

^lol

Spoiler: Quick Summary of R&J for Purposes of Showing that it is in fact a parody/SATIRE

Essentially, in very short terms, Romeo and Juliet is like this

Juliet: Oh bother, I don't have a boyfriend. ;_;
Nurse: You will soon!
Juliet: Oh bother. ;_;
Romeo: Oh bother, I don't have a girlfriend. ;_; My old one dumped me. ;_; I MISS HER. </3 I CAN'T GO ON WITHOUT HER. </3 IT'S LIKE TRYING TO LIVE WITHOUT BREATH-
Benvolio/Mercutio: Let's go to a party and get you a girlfriend!
Romeo: BUT I CAN'T </3 SHE CAN NEVER BE REPLACED
Benvolio/Mercutio: Wasn't she the one to dump you?
Romeo: OH, YOU'RE RIGHT, SHE'S A HEARTLESS B****. I HATE HER NOW
Benvolio/Mercutio: To our enemies PARTEH : D
*at the PARTEH*
Romeo: Doode doo
Juliet: Humdee dum
Romeo/Juliet: GASP *thinking* That girl/boy over there! I YEARN FOR HER/HIM AT THE VERY SIGHT OF HER/HIM <3 LOVE IS NEIGH, OHOHO
*later*
Romeo: Hey there, you're pretty hot
Juliet: But I'm a Capulet
Romeo: A name's just a name, you're still hot
Juliet: Well same to you, fair Montague
Romeo: Hey, let's get married later
Juliet: kk : D
*later*
Friar: You know, I feel this is a bad idea, but if can get your families to stop bickering it's worth it
Romeo: I vow to love you more than I do now, and stuff you full of your favorite food: pasta!
Juliet: Actually, I'm deathly allergic to pasta.
Romeo: Oh, sorry. You know how it is: only known you for about a week.
Juliet: True my love <3 ...And I vow to love you even more for the rest of my life! These first few days have been marvelous. What could possibly go wrong? : D
*later*
Someone: ROMEO, YOU ARE BANISHED
Romeo: D:
*later*
Juliet: I cannot go on without my love, Mario!
Nurse: ...Actually, it's Romeo
Juliet: Oh whoops. You know: Italian name, only known for a week. All that.
Nurse: I'm leaving you now
Juliet: I shall drink this vial to make it look as if I've died so my fair M-uh, Romeo can meet me in the morgue! Of course he'll know I'm faking because of the ever so reliable postage service that couldn't possibly fail to deliver such an important letter *"dies"*
*later*
Romeo: JULIET, I'LL JOIN YOU IN DEATH *kills himself*
Juliet: Yay! I'm not actually-MARIO. NO. I'LL JOIN YOU IN DEATH *kills herself*
*family comes down*
Father: ...Geez, Romeo, couldn't wait ONE MINUTE. Couldn't consider that there was someone else out there. ...Couldn't realize YOU'D KNOWN THE GIRL FOR A WEEK. ...Heck, why wasn't he more distraught when Mercutio died? He knew him WAY longer!
Mother: ...Because you don't kill yourself over someone else's death?
Father: Ah right...unless you're a lustful teenager -_-
Mother: Look on the bright side: they're already in the morgue! : D
Father: Can't argue with that! : D

DADADADAAAAAAAA

*Shakespeare rolls in his grave*

*cough* Anyway

I officially love you XD

About the "need"-thing:
Personally, I distinguish between "loving" someone and "being in love with someone"
"loving" someone means that cou care deeply about someone and also wish to be near them emotionally (you can live on the other side of the world as long as you have regular contact or know that they are well). But mostly it is "I want my beloved to be happy" That love can include a deep friendship or parent-child of sibling love. It of course also includes the love for your partner/husband/wife

"being in love" or "having a crush" means a more physical attraction. It ranges from lust to a desire to be physically near someone. It has a lot of the "need-aspect" in it.

I think Ran feels more "need" for physical presence from Shinichi's side right now. But that is also because she gets the feling that he is emotionally absent as well. (In reality he is physically present and therefore doesn't feel the impact of his emotional absentness, that Ran feels, that much)

And yes, Conan DOES flipp out when Ran is in danger.
At the gattering of the magic lovers (I think that case was called like this) he runs across a burning bridge without Ran being in immediate danger!
When she is unconcious he totally forgets the -neechan when calling her name (Which is extremely important to make his child-disguise look believable)
In the paper-planes case, he totally looses his head when calling for help despite the fact that Ran is an expert in Karate and a high chance that the culprit isn't even there.

He also sees that his emotional presence is nesecarry and does things like giving her his phone number and trying to cheer her up at the end of the desperate revival arc.

[mangaluva]

I agree with the dichotomy between loving someone and being in love with them. Shinichi and Ran definitely love each other, but to what extent they're in love with each other is the debatable one. On Shinichi's end, at least, there's no question that Ran is the most important person in his life, the one he's most desperate to protect; I think he panics a bit and loses his normally logical thought processes when it comes to the concept of Ran in danger. In extreme moments, however, he's more than once come close to just telling her the truth, so probably he does realize that it's what he really needs to do, but when extreme danger isn't focusing his mind too many worries and problems are clouding his judgment.

Ran isn't quite in love with him, IMO; she clearly has issues with losing people that she cares about, so she wouldn't be able to really fall in love with him until she knew that he was with her and how he felt about her. Until then, she's too afraid to fall completely in love.

[Borealis]

I agree with the dichotomy between loving someone and being in love with them. Shinichi and Ran definitely love each other, but to what extent they're in love with each other is the debatable one. On Shinichi's end, at least, there's no question that Ran is the most important person in his life, the one he's most desperate to protect; I think he panics a bit and loses his normally logical thought processes when it comes to the concept of Ran in danger. In extreme moments, however, he's more than once come close to just telling her the truth, so probably he does realize that it's what he really needs to do, but when extreme danger isn't focusing his mind too many worries and problems are clouding his judgment.

Ran isn't quite in love with him, IMO; she clearly has issues with losing people that she cares about, so she wouldn't be able to really fall in love with him until she knew that he was with her and how he felt about her. Until then, she's too afraid to fall completely in love.

I also think she should find out but she should also know right then HOW SERIOUS the situation is. Perhaps not too much detail but enough that she knows not to act suspiciously

I don't think that you can controle who you fall in love with. At least not conciously. If you meant that she limints her "falling in love" unconciusly, I totally agree with you

[mangaluva]

I agree with the dichotomy between loving someone and being in love with them. Shinichi and Ran definitely love each other, but to what extent they're in love with each other is the debatable one. On Shinichi's end, at least, there's no question that Ran is the most important person in his life, the one he's most desperate to protect; I think he panics a bit and loses his normally logical thought processes when it comes to the concept of Ran in danger. In extreme moments, however, he's more than once come close to just telling her the truth, so probably he does realize that it's what he really needs to do, but when extreme danger isn't focusing his mind too many worries and problems are clouding his judgment.

Ran isn't quite in love with him, IMO; she clearly has issues with losing people that she cares about, so she wouldn't be able to really fall in love with him until she knew that he was with her and how he felt about her. Until then, she's too afraid to fall completely in love.

I also think she should find out but she should also know right then HOW SERIOUS the situation is. Perhaps not too much detail but enough that she knows not to act suspiciously

I don't think that you can controle who you fall in love with. At least not conciously. If you meant that she limints her "falling in love" unconciusly, I totally agree with you

I think she does it unconsciously. Her separation anxiety has its roots in her early childhood and it runs pretty deep. As such, one of her unconscious requirements to fall in love is to feel secure that she won't be left, and that's a security that it will take a while for Shinichi to ensure even if he returns today.

[Borealis]

So we share that opinion

About the "easyly replaceable" thing:
I think that Shinichi would have been lonely if Ran hadn't cared for their friendship. Look at them: They are on opposite sides of the wealth-scale and are best friends. When he temporarily came back in the desperate revival arc, she was the only one coming to his house. He is shown to have other friends but that is only because they were also in the soccer club. and before we met them we hadn't even heard of them. I know how it feels to only have one person you really call a friend in real life and I think that shinichi would have been very lonely if it wasn't for his best friend Ran (I personally don't have any romantic feelings for my friend but that is mostly because I am not lebian) What I am trying to say is that Ran had a vast impact on his live and can't be replaced that easily.

[sonoci]

I also have something to say on the "easily replaceable" aspect.

For the whole of life, right from the start, if Ran had been replaced by someone else *someone else was in Ran's spot* then of course it would've worked out. After all, that's how fiction and life goes. I just learned in Psychology class today, actually, that every single thing you do effects you, and that would include interaction with people you know.

For that reason, I say that it would be impossible to replace Ran in his life if it was just "right now" (say...next file or episode or something). It could be worked at, as life does change and (if trying to be believable) fiction can too but it would take time. For anyone to replace Ran, they would have to fill the time that Ran had with him, and even Sonoko hasn't come close to that. Because she's known him for so long and because she's effected what he's done and therefore his brain and who he is, taking her away would change him dramatically. Obviously people can change, but as it stands Shinichi seems to be very happy with who he is, as is Ran. They don't have any major problems that would make the relationship be "...Alright, we just can't do this anymore" or (really) that they would have to come to an agreement on. Most of their problems are hormonal teenage stuff xD All of which would be reconciled fairly quickly and with ease (which is probably why people find it "boring" but that is subjective)

As it stands, Ran cannot be replaced - especially not easily. As far as we know, she was his major friend and not only that, his major friend who was a girl. In real life, yeah, it doesn't turn out that childhood friends become your lover, but I actually know someone personally where that actually happened. Not only was Ran a friend, she also practically became a parent for him when his parents moved out. "If not for me you'd starve!" indeed.

And, epiphany here, as for Shinichi not "needing" Ran but Ran "needing" Shinichi...why would that be? Why is it so much more prevalent that Ran's "loving" towards Shinichi but Shinichi almost seems cold in comparison? There's one simple reason: the popular saying "You don't know what you've got until it's gone". Think about it: for Ran, Shinichi's been gone for who knows how long to some place she doesn't even know. But for Shinichi? Everyday he lives with and sees Ran. He doesn't feel the "need" for her because he sees her everyday. Ran? As far as she's concerned, Shinichi is gone everyday. There's also the fact that, when Shinichi was actually with her, she didn't seem very "needy" at all. In fact, as mentioned before, she cooked for him, she basically looked after him - while looking after her father too. She wasn't exactly that dependent then, if anything she was being depended on.

EDIT: Anyway, there's only one thing we can all be sure on when it comes to love:

Borealis loves me

Spoiler: Quick Summary of R&J for Purposes of Showing that it is in fact a parody/SATIRE

Essentially, in very short terms, Romeo and Juliet is like this

Juliet: Oh bother, I don't have a boyfriend. ;_;
Nurse: You will soon!
Juliet: Oh bother. ;_;
Romeo: Oh bother, I don't have a girlfriend. ;_; My old one dumped me. ;_; I MISS HER. </3 I CAN'T GO ON WITHOUT HER. </3 IT'S LIKE TRYING TO LIVE WITHOUT BREATH-
Benvolio/Mercutio: Let's go to a party and get you a girlfriend!
Romeo: BUT I CAN'T </3 SHE CAN NEVER BE REPLACED
Benvolio/Mercutio: Wasn't she the one to dump you?
Romeo: OH, YOU'RE RIGHT, SHE'S A HEARTLESS B****. I HATE HER NOW
Benvolio/Mercutio: To our enemies PARTEH : D
*at the PARTEH*
Romeo: Doode doo
Juliet: Humdee dum
Romeo/Juliet: GASP *thinking* That girl/boy over there! I YEARN FOR HER/HIM AT THE VERY SIGHT OF HER/HIM <3 LOVE IS NEIGH, OHOHO
*later*
Romeo: Hey there, you're pretty hot
Juliet: But I'm a Capulet
Romeo: A name's just a name, you're still hot
Juliet: Well same to you, fair Montague
Romeo: Hey, let's get married later
Juliet: kk : D
*later*
Friar: You know, I feel this is a bad idea, but if can get your families to stop bickering it's worth it
Romeo: I vow to love you more than I do now, and stuff you full of your favorite food: pasta!
Juliet: Actually, I'm deathly allergic to pasta.
Romeo: Oh, sorry. You know how it is: only known you for about a week.
Juliet: True my love <3 ...And I vow to love you even more for the rest of my life! These first few days have been marvelous. What could possibly go wrong? : D
*later*
Someone: ROMEO, YOU ARE BANISHED
Romeo: D:
*later*
Juliet: I cannot go on without my love, Mario!
Nurse: ...Actually, it's Romeo
Juliet: Oh whoops. You know: Italian name, only known for a week. All that.
Nurse: I'm leaving you now
Juliet: I shall drink this vial to make it look as if I've died so my fair M-uh, Romeo can meet me in the morgue! Of course he'll know I'm faking because of the ever so reliable postage service that couldn't possibly fail to deliver such an important letter *"dies"*
*later*
Romeo: JULIET, I'LL JOIN YOU IN DEATH *kills himself*
Juliet: Yay! I'm not actually-MARIO. NO. I'LL JOIN YOU IN DEATH *kills herself*
*family comes down*
Father: ...Geez, Romeo, couldn't wait ONE MINUTE. Couldn't consider that there was someone else out there. ...Couldn't realize YOU'D KNOWN THE GIRL FOR A WEEK. ...Heck, why wasn't he more distraught when Mercutio died? He knew him WAY longer!
Mother: ...Because you don't kill yourself over someone else's death?
Father: Ah right...unless you're a lustful teenager -_-
Mother: Look on the bright side: they're already in the morgue! : D
Father: Can't argue with that! : D

DADADADAAAAAAAA

*Shakespeare rolls in his grave*

*cough* Anyway

I officially love you XD

[Violets]

Amen.
xD

Btw, I don't want to interrupt, but when do you thin we will get another ShinRan Arc? Or at least somewhat of a moment that is cute (yeah, I like cute moments, don't mind me)

[Borealis]

I also have something to say on the "easily replaceable" aspect.

For the whole of life, right from the start, if Ran had been replaced by someone else *someone else was in Ran's spot* then of course it would've worked out. After all, that's how fiction and life goes. I just learned in Psychology class today, actually, that every single thing you do effects you, and that would include interaction with people you know.

For that reason, I say that it would be impossible to replace Ran in his life if it was just "right now" (say...next file or episode or something). It could be worked at, as life does change and (if trying to be believable) fiction can too but it would take time. For anyone to replace Ran, they would have to fill the time that Ran had with him, and even Sonoko hasn't come close to that. Because she's known him for so long and because she's effected what he's done and therefore his brain and who he is, taking her away would change him dramatically. Obviously people can change, but as it stands Shinichi seems to be very happy with who he is, as is Ran. They don't have any major problems that would make the relationship be "...Alright, we just can't do this anymore" or (really) that they would have to come to an agreement on. Most of their problems are hormonal teenage stuff xD All of which would be reconciled fairly quickly and with ease (which is probably why people find it "boring" but that is subjective)

As it stands, Ran cannot be replaced - especially not easily. As far as we know, she was his major friend and not only that, his major friend who was a girl. In real life, yeah, it doesn't turn out that childhood friends become your lover, but I actually know someone personally where that actually happened. Not only was Ran a friend, she also practically became a parent for him when his parents moved out. "If not for me you'd starve!" indeed.

And, epiphany here, as for Shinichi not "needing" Ran but Ran "needing" Shinichi...why would that be? Why is it so much more prevalent that Ran's "loving" towards Shinichi but Shinichi almost seems cold in comparison? There's one simple reason: the popular saying "You don't know what you've got until it's gone". Think about it: for Ran, Shinichi's been gone for who knows how long to some place she doesn't even know. But for Shinichi? Everyday he lives with and sees Ran. He doesn't feel the "need" for her because he sees her everyday. Ran? As far as she's concerned, Shinichi is gone everyday. There's also the fact that, when Shinichi was actually with her, she didn't seem very "needy" at all. In fact, as mentioned before, she cooked for him, she basically looked after him - while looking after her father too. She wasn't exactly that dependent then, if anything she was being depended on.

EDIT: Anyway, there's only one thing we can all be sure on when it comes to love:

Borealis loves me

Spoiler: Quick Summary of R&J for Purposes of Showing that it is in fact a parody/SATIRE

Essentially, in very short terms, Romeo and Juliet is like this

Juliet: Oh bother, I don't have a boyfriend. ;_;
Nurse: You will soon!
Juliet: Oh bother. ;_;
Romeo: Oh bother, I don't have a girlfriend. ;_; My old one dumped me. ;_; I MISS HER. </3 I CAN'T GO ON WITHOUT HER. </3 IT'S LIKE TRYING TO LIVE WITHOUT BREATH-
Benvolio/Mercutio: Let's go to a party and get you a girlfriend!
Romeo: BUT I CAN'T </3 SHE CAN NEVER BE REPLACED
Benvolio/Mercutio: Wasn't she the one to dump you?
Romeo: OH, YOU'RE RIGHT, SHE'S A HEARTLESS B****. I HATE HER NOW
Benvolio/Mercutio: To our enemies PARTEH : D
*at the PARTEH*
Romeo: Doode doo
Juliet: Humdee dum
Romeo/Juliet: GASP *thinking* That girl/boy over there! I YEARN FOR HER/HIM AT THE VERY SIGHT OF HER/HIM <3 LOVE IS NEIGH, OHOHO
*later*
Romeo: Hey there, you're pretty hot
Juliet: But I'm a Capulet
Romeo: A name's just a name, you're still hot
Juliet: Well same to you, fair Montague
Romeo: Hey, let's get married later
Juliet: kk : D
*later*
Friar: You know, I feel this is a bad idea, but if can get your families to stop bickering it's worth it
Romeo: I vow to love you more than I do now, and stuff you full of your favorite food: pasta!
Juliet: Actually, I'm deathly allergic to pasta.
Romeo: Oh, sorry. You know how it is: only known you for about a week.
Juliet: True my love <3 ...And I vow to love you even more for the rest of my life! These first few days have been marvelous. What could possibly go wrong? : D
*later*
Someone: ROMEO, YOU ARE BANISHED
Romeo: D:
*later*
Juliet: I cannot go on without my love, Mario!
Nurse: ...Actually, it's Romeo
Juliet: Oh whoops. You know: Italian name, only known for a week. All that.
Nurse: I'm leaving you now
Juliet: I shall drink this vial to make it look as if I've died so my fair M-uh, Romeo can meet me in the morgue! Of course he'll know I'm faking because of the ever so reliable postage service that couldn't possibly fail to deliver such an important letter *"dies"*
*later*
Romeo: JULIET, I'LL JOIN YOU IN DEATH *kills himself*
Juliet: Yay! I'm not actually-MARIO. NO. I'LL JOIN YOU IN DEATH *kills herself*
*family comes down*
Father: ...Geez, Romeo, couldn't wait ONE MINUTE. Couldn't consider that there was someone else out there. ...Couldn't realize YOU'D KNOWN THE GIRL FOR A WEEK. ...Heck, why wasn't he more distraught when Mercutio died? He knew him WAY longer!
Mother: ...Because you don't kill yourself over someone else's death?
Father: Ah right...unless you're a lustful teenager -_-
Mother: Look on the bright side: they're already in the morgue! : D
Father: Can't argue with that! : D

DADADADAAAAAAAA

*Shakespeare rolls in his grave*

*cough* Anyway

I officially love you XD

Exactly what I was thinking
But you are so much better when it comes to putting ideas into words.
I'd like to meet you. How does a coffee sound? or cinema?

[Toast]

Ran and Shinichi love each other. Shinichi will never end up with someone else. No. Way. In. Hell. NO. Not (may I dare say it) Ai, not Vermouth, not some random hot girl in the street that he saved from a car, and definitely not Ayumi. Why? Because Gosho supports ShinRan. Want proof? Read every file of the manga and watch the movies. Now let's all go get some pizza.