Detective Conan Files 804-808 Discussion Thread: T a k a g i

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I knew what you meant.
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I know, I know. :D
Chekhov MacGuffin wrote:
  • He wanted to ask someone questions who isn't there? (Takagi?)
  • If it was something at the police station, maybe something is missing, like files? (Akai's death files? The body? Since Takagi was on that case, Takagi missing would crimp Amuro's ability to ask questions.)
I believe that these are the reasons why Amuro did what he did during Conan's kidnapping case. The same applies to Sera as well. By going overboard (on their actions to save Conan), they were able to come back to the police station several times and do their own investigation (regarding Akai).
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ahrjay wrote:
Commi-Ninja wrote: Ooh, this should be a good case.  I don't think we've had anything quite that desperate a situation in a while.
Hoping this will be a continuation on Takagi's-suspicions-over-Conan's-identity plot.
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so Conan Have Smartphone now? Technological Advancement here kinda crazy :P

joke aside Pretty good Chapter. i like case that involved someone live (even thought end result probably predictable)

also is it just or Sato have some Art Evolution. he look more teenage ish (and look more .... Sera :O)
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So, umm... You guys said everything I wanted do say!!!
Well, I think this case is going to be pretty interesting.
      I just thought a bout this now, that guy who handed the wrapped up iPad moved away as soon as Conan showed up. Did he mean it, or is it a Gosho planed coincidence?
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rrizqiw wrote: so Conan Have Smartphone now? Technological Advancement here kinda crazy :P

joke aside Pretty good Chapter. i like case that involved someone live (even thought end result probably predictable)

also is it just or Sato have some Art Evolution. he look more teenage ish (and look more .... Sera :O)


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rrizqiw wrote: so Conan Have Smartphone now? Technological Advancement here kinda crazy :P
Conan's phone has been pretty steadily evolving really, I'm actually more surprised at the introduction of a tablet computer being used in such a throwaway manner.
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Chekhov MacGuffin wrote:
James Rye wrote: *reads chapter*
Whole reaction: Hm...
*goes to bed*
We think alike....

Anyway, finally Amuro gets to be creepy for once. I have several ideas about what he meant, but I don't know which, if any, are right. It's too vague to tell because there are too many things he could mean.
  • Akai is an easy one, but I'm not sure that makes sense in this context
  • He wanted to ask someone questions who isn't there? (Takagi?)
  • If it was something at the police station, maybe something is missing, like files? (Akai's death files? The body? Since Takagi was on that case, Takagi missing would crimp Amuro's ability to ask questions.)
  • Is he missing someone? (Akemi? Wants some records of that case?)
  • Is it because Haibara is absent?
The parents jotted down in Takagi's notebook are mysterious. Plural implies two of them. What about Takagi's own parents? Where do they live?

And of course, what everyone else said about the covering at Takagi's feet. A timer device designed to snap or burn the board would be a possibility.

I think this is going to be a good case.
Besides what Chekhov and Sonoci have posted, i still have some questions like what have that Date-san to do with the parents thing and the Totori thing (if they're somehow related), or if it's really Takagi the one they want to harm (you know, if he or they give that ipad to Sato just to find out the situation of Takagi, that means the one who have to suffer is Sato, doesn't it?). Also, about Amuro, my first reaction was to think that he was talking about Haibara, but, if he was refering to Takagi, because of Akai's death, is it to make sure he's dead? If Sera overreacted rescuing Conan was because she also wanted to be sure if Akai is dead or alive? If it's so, that means she doesn't know about Subaru being Akai in disguise? Or maybe she want those files before Amuro could read them? ???
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Akonyl wrote:
ahrjay wrote:
Commi-Ninja wrote: Ooh, this should be a good case.  I don't think we've had anything quite that desperate a situation in a while.
Hoping this will be a continuation on Takagi's-suspicions-over-Conan's-identity plot.
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Katty008 wrote:
Akonyl wrote:
ahrjay wrote:
Commi-Ninja wrote: Ooh, this should be a good case.  I don't think we've had anything quite that desperate a situation in a while.
Hoping this will be a continuation on Takagi's-suspicions-over-Conan's-identity plot.
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Hahahahh that explain everything!!! XD
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I think Takagi was going to his parent's graves

The whole kidnapping (as I think) is to punish the police and/or Takagi for an old case.
Theory: The family of Date balme Takagi for his death and set everything up. That old guy was his (Date's) father.

I like the idea that it is a public site and that it is supposed to look like an execution

btw, I get the feeling that Takagi has something to do with the BO (especially with the tottori-thing now). Perhaps they killed his parents?
THAT makes it possible that the BO are behind this case!!1!
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Borealis wrote: I think Takagi was going to his parent's graves

The whole kidnapping (as I think) is to punish the police and/or Takagi for an old case.
Theory: The family of Date balme Takagi for his death and set everything up. That old guy was his (Date's) father.

I like the idea that it is a public site and that it is supposed to look like an execution

btw, I get the feeling that Takagi has something to do with the BO (especially with the tottori-thing now). Perhaps they killed his parents?
THAT makes it possible that the BO are behind this case!!1!
The whole execution thing does seem like the kind of detail Gosho might put in.

It's too bad that it's probably really unlikely that the BO are involved, because that would be epic. It's my new crack theory that that's why Takagi hasn't been pushing Conan on his identity, he's connected to them and if he discovered anything concrete he'd be obligated to tell them but he wants Conan to bring them down, even though that'd screw him over.

Though that whole them killing his parents thing is pretty good too. He could've been investigating them ever since, and that's why he acts so unassuming, to throw people off. He's pulling a, "Don't look at me, I'm nobody," and he recognizes Conan doing the same thing. He doesn't push him on it because he understands the need to do so.

/wild mass guessing
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Katty008 wrote:
Borealis wrote: I think Takagi was going to his parent's graves

The whole kidnapping (as I think) is to punish the police and/or Takagi for an old case.
Theory: The family of Date balme Takagi for his death and set everything up. That old guy was his (Date's) father.

I like the idea that it is a public site and that it is supposed to look like an execution

btw, I get the feeling that Takagi has something to do with the BO (especially with the tottori-thing now). Perhaps they killed his parents?
THAT makes it possible that the BO are behind this case!!1!
The whole execution thing does seem like the kind of detail Gosho might put in.

It's too bad that it's probably really unlikely that the BO are involved, because that would be epic. It's my new crack theory that that's why Takagi hasn't been pushing Conan on his identity, he's connected to them and if he discovered anything concrete he'd be obligated to tell them but he wants Conan to bring them down, even though that'd screw him over.

Though that whole them killing his parents thing is pretty good too. He could've been investigating them ever since, and that's why he acts so unassuming, to throw people off. He's pulling a, "Don't look at me, I'm nobody," and he recognizes Conan doing the same thing. He doesn't push him on it because he understands the need to do so.

/wild mass guessing
The BO being involved was more of a crack theory anyway. ;)

I have the theory that his parents were part of the japanese secret police (how are they called anyway?) and they were investigating the BO (his parents might have taken some time off because it was dangerous for him) the BO found out where they were living (somewhere in Tattori) and killed them (Takagi was a small kid back then) He then was sent to live with his grandparents or other relatives (that were into the secret) in or around Tokyo. He however was told to NEVER go and investigate it (the official story is something like they were killed by robbers or something) and therefore doesn't dig into Coanan's secret too much.
He might be reminded of the behavior of his relatives by conan with their "do not investigate what I am hiding from you. It is dangerous"- thing. (they are trying to hide it but he is able to see through it) He might have been pulling something similar for years (you can't go and tell your friends at school that you saw the bodies of your parents who were gruesomly murdered)
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sonoci wrote: I know it's nothing, but I find it interesting that Tottori is mentioned on page 5.

Isn't that the place that supposedly is connected to the BO boss? Or am I mistaken on that?


Anyway, pointless detail aside, what was the sticker/marking in Takagi's notebook near the "Greet parents" note? How convenient his tear lands right on it  ::) nvm about this part, read further xD
when I got to that page I also thought about the BO connection, from previously looking at the chinese file and seeing Amuro. Though it's not excluded for for that guy with the free iPad to have a small connection with the BO. Also Amuro looks like he's sulking because (Haibara isn't with the detective boys, he felt Akai during the car chase and doesn't know where to find him, Sera also vanished after the police hearing)
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rrizqiw wrote: so Conan Have Smartphone now? Technological Advancement here kinda crazy :P
I wonder whether he has two... you know, one for Shinichi and another for Conan.
rrizqiw wrote: also is it just or Sato have some Art Evolution. he look more teenage ish (and look more .... Sera :O)
My thoughts exactly when I saw the panel in which Takagi was thinking of Satou.
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