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This looks promising. I can't wait to read the succeeding chapters.


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I can't help but associate this with what happened during the 12 Million Hostages. I know that the said story is not really connected with the current one, but I'm just citing a couple of similarities, besides being connected with Sato, due to the following:

1. Both Jinpei and Takagi had close colleague/friend who died previously.
2. Both lives were threatened year/s after their friend died. The difference is that Jinpei died, whereas Takagi is still alive (I do hope he'll live. I know he will.). The brief flashbacks of these dead people  indicate that they have a direct connection with what happened (to Jinpei) / will happen (to Takagi) next.
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Katty008 wrote:
Akonyl wrote: final case chapter:

Conan: "And the culprit should be right... here!"
Culprit: "...!"
Satou: "...dad?"
Conan: "Wait, what?"
Culprit: "Ohohoho, Takagi came to me asking for my blessing and I just wanted to see how much you really loved him before I did so."
Satou: "... :V"
Takagi: ";_;"
...That's terrible. >:D
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Katty008 wrote:
Akonyl wrote: final case chapter:

Conan: "And the culprit should be right... here!"
Culprit: "...!"
Satou: "...dad?"
Conan: "Wait, what?"
Culprit: "Ohohoho, Takagi came to me asking for my blessing and I just wanted to see how much you really loved him before I did so."
Satou: "... :V"
Takagi: ";_;"
...That's terrible. >:D
It is terrible ... TERRIBLY GOOD .. the ghost of Satou's father comes to test his daughter's suitor -- DC goes supernatural ( everyone remembers Satou's father died in the line of duty ... remember? ... her father's handcuffs ... )
Katty008 wrote: Takagi just breaks my heart in this chapter.
Spoiler:
I think he's going to go see his own parents... their graves, that is. It would explain why he was so adamant that it was not a date, and the crying.
Next chapter can't come soon enough.
I was confused by what you said but now that I have re-read it, I think so too.  (I misread the notebook as a meeting between him and his parents at the airport at 7 pm but the notebook clearly says 07:00 am -- interestingly enough there is NO entry about the meeting at the airport: Takagi wants to keep it a SECRET!).

So that leaves me with the following wild speculations & questions:
  • Who was Takagi meeting at the airport?!
  • Not his parents? ... maybe Satou's mother? -- which would explain the wedding ring he is carrying around)
  • Remember the old man who handed the package, said specifically to hand it to Detective Takagi's lover, the senior detective (Sato).  But, since he did say it so overtly, it's possible that it was a blind -- and the mention of Date-san's death might lead to a case similar to what happened with Satou's father ... an old grievance ...
  • So the motive for this crime might be a grievance or jealousy (they are both 'popular' in the police department!) dealing with Takagi or Sato... or what I am leaning towards what will be the true motive: a grievance against the police in general (esp. against the mentor Date-san, so the criminal goes after his protege).
The placement of the cameras are a bit interesting: there are at least three cameras (the close up of his head and body is definitely at a different angle then the one from farther away from his side although along the same 'wall' probably, and of course there is the one above).  We know Takagi can't speak to Miwako, but I don't for certain that Takagi can hear Miwako and the rest either.

Conan notices the 'wall' is formed by the draping of those blue sheets over the structure, so he says it is probably a construction site (so an easy job to find him?) ... but for some paranoid? reason I get the feeling Takagi is not in a remote construction site somewhere that is going to be hard to find ... and rather he is hidden somewhere in plain sight with lots of people.  The original purpose of hangings were to punish criminals VERY publicly .. and I think the murderer intends to kill Takagi before the public to show how incompetent the police are .... ( I am getting inside the mind of the criminal too much!).

The anachronism in this case is also interesting: An old man delivers a tablet computer, with a live video link of Takagi  (presumably untraceable).  Not that you can't be computer literate and old, but ... it seems more likely that if the old man wasn't wearing a disguise, then this problem is resolved if there is more than one criminal (maybe someone old and someone young)

I don't even care about the B.O. plot -- this case is going to be a really ~exciting~ !

HYPE

EDIT: I am going to "bet" that the package wrap that contained the tablet HAS useable prints and that they don't find a match.  SCORE MINUS 1 for standard CSI techniques. Bring in CONAN, THE UBERMENSCH and his trusty assistants, the DB and the entire police department.
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Katty008 wrote: Takagi just breaks my heart in this chapter.
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I think he's going to go see his own parents... their graves, that is. It would explain why he was so adamant that it was not a date, and the crying.
Next chapter can't come soon enough.
This is an awesome theory *thumbs up*
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ten wrote:
Katty008 wrote:
Akonyl wrote: final case chapter:

Conan: "And the culprit should be right... here!"
Culprit: "...!"
Satou: "...dad?"
Conan: "Wait, what?"
Culprit: "Ohohoho, Takagi came to me asking for my blessing and I just wanted to see how much you really loved him before I did so."
Satou: "... :V"
Takagi: ";_;"
...That's terrible. >:D
It is terrible ... TERRIBLY GOOD .. the ghost of Satou's father comes to test his daughter's suitor -- DC goes supernatural ( everyone remembers Satou's father died in the line of duty ... remember? ... her father's handcuffs ... )
Katty008 wrote: Takagi just breaks my heart in this chapter.
Spoiler:
I think he's going to go see his own parents... their graves, that is. It would explain why he was so adamant that it was not a date, and the crying.
Next chapter can't come soon enough.
I was confused by what you said but now that I have re-read it, I think so too.  (I misread the notebook as a meeting between him and his parents at the airport at 7 pm but the notebook clearly says 07:00 am -- interestingly enough there is NO entry about the meeting at the airport: Takagi wants to keep it a SECRET!).

So that leaves me with the following wild speculations & questions:
  • Who was Takagi meeting at the airport?!
  • Not his parents? ... maybe Satou's mother? -- which would explain the wedding ring he is carrying around)
  • Remember the old man who handed the package, said specifically to hand it to Detective Takagi's lover, the senior detective (Sato).  But, since he did say it so overtly, it's possible that it was a blind -- and the mention of Date-san's death might lead to a case similar to what happened with Satou's father ... an old grievance ...
  • So the motive for this crime might be a grievance or jealousy (they are both 'popular' in the police department!) dealing with Takagi or Sato... or what I am leaning towards what will be the true motive: a grievance against the police in general (esp. against the mentor Date-san, so the criminal goes after his protege).
The placement of the cameras are a bit interesting: there are at least three cameras (the close up of his head and body is definitely at a different angle then the one from farther away from his side although along the same 'wall' probably, and of course there is the one above).  We know Takagi can't speak to Miwako, but I don't for certain that Takagi can hear Miwako and the rest either.

Conan notices the 'wall' is formed by the draping of those blue sheets over the structure, so he says it is probably a construction site (so an easy job to find him?) ... but for some paranoid? reason I get the feeling Takagi is not in a remote construction site somewhere that is going to be hard to find ... and rather he is hidden somewhere in plain sight with lots of people.  The original purpose of hangings were to punish criminals VERY publicly .. and I think the murderer intends to kill Takagi before the public to show how incompetent the police are .... ( I am getting inside the mind of the criminal too much!).

The anachronism in this case is also interesting: An old man delivers a tablet computer, with a live video link of Takagi  (presumably untraceable).  Not that you can't be computer literate and old, but ... it seems more likely that if the old man wasn't wearing a disguise, then this problem is resolved if there is more than one criminal (maybe someone old and someone young)

I don't even care about the B.O. plot -- this case is going to be a really ~exciting~ !

HYPE

EDIT: I am going to "bet" that the package wrap that contained the tablet HAS useable prints and that they don't find a match.  SCORE MINUS 1 for standard CSI techniques. Bring in CONAN, THE UBERMENSCH and his trusty assistants, the DB and the entire police department.
can i just point out that the notebook doesnt say 7:00am ... it says 7th of February .______. (woot special day xD)

Random Though: o_O what if his sister (if he had one) died
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ten wrote: It is terrible ... TERRIBLY GOOD .. the ghost of Satou's father comes to test his daughter's suitor -- DC goes supernatural ( everyone remembers Satou's father died in the line of duty ... remember? ... her father's handcuffs ... )
tbh, I'd forgotten (:V), but as long as we have ghosts involved we could throw Matsuda in there somewhere for good measure.
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Akonyl wrote:
ten wrote: It is terrible ... TERRIBLY GOOD .. the ghost of Satou's father comes to test his daughter's suitor -- DC goes supernatural ( everyone remembers Satou's father died in the line of duty ... remember? ... her father's handcuffs ... )
tbh, I'd forgotten (:V), but as long as we have ghosts involved we could throw Matsuda in there somewhere for good measure.
Yeah, I was gonna point out the whole "Satou's father is dead" bit, but someone beat me to it  :-X
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sonoci wrote:
Akonyl wrote:
ten wrote: It is terrible ... TERRIBLY GOOD .. the ghost of Satou's father comes to test his daughter's suitor -- DC goes supernatural ( everyone remembers Satou's father died in the line of duty ... remember? ... her father's handcuffs ... )
tbh, I'd forgotten (:V), but as long as we have ghosts involved we could throw Matsuda in there somewhere for good measure.
Yeah, I was gonna point out the whole "Satou's father is dead" bit, but someone beat me to it  :-X
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Ooh, this should be a good case.  I don't think we've had anything quite that desperate a situation in a while.

Also, I'm agreeing with the dead ex-girlfriend idea right now.

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Chrissy wrote:
can i just point out that the notebook doesnt say 7:00am ... it says 7th of February .______. (woot special day xD)

Random Though: o_O what if his sister (if he had one) died
OOER! *sigh* I misread that TWICE now... Zoomed in .  Yep the (day symbol ) looked  like :00 to me *argh* ( plus if I was more attentive I would have seen the last entry marked "25"!!)
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Commi-Ninja wrote: Ooh, this should be a good case.  I don't think we've had anything quite that desperate a situation in a while.
Hoping this will be a continuation on Takagi's-suspicions-over-Conan's-identity plot.
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ahrjay wrote:
Commi-Ninja wrote: Ooh, this should be a good case.  I don't think we've had anything quite that desperate a situation in a while.
Hoping this will be a continuation on Takagi's-suspicions-over-Conan's-identity plot.
Highly unlikely IMO.
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leokiko wrote:
ahrjay wrote:
Commi-Ninja wrote: Ooh, this should be a good case.  I don't think we've had anything quite that desperate a situation in a while.
Hoping this will be a continuation on Takagi's-suspicions-over-Conan's-identity plot.
Highly unlikely IMO.
Wishful thinking, I guess. It's been nine-ten years since the TÅ
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Nine to ten years?  You'd think they'd have all figured it out by now! ;)
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xD The release of the Touto Tower Bombing case file, I mean.
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