Seriously, hard to decide on one glance. I guess the situation is favourable for black, but lets see how this turns out...
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Interesting constelation... 
Seriously, hard to decide on one glance. I guess the situation is favourable for black, but lets see how this turns out...
Seriously, hard to decide on one glance. I guess the situation is favourable for black, but lets see how this turns out...

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Re: Chess - Game 1: c-square - Callid
I thought it was "No risk, no fun."^^
1. Nb1-c3 / d7-d5
2. e2-e4 / d5-d4
3. Nc3-d5 / e7-e5
4. c2-c3 / c7-c6
5. Nd5-b4 / Bf8xb4
6. c3xb4 / Ng8-f6
7. Ng1-f3 / Bc8-g4
8. Qd1-c2 / o-o
9. Nf3xe5 / Tf8-e8
10. f2-f4 / Nb8-d7
11. Bf1-c4 (?)/ Nd7xe5

1. Nb1-c3 / d7-d5
2. e2-e4 / d5-d4
3. Nc3-d5 / e7-e5
4. c2-c3 / c7-c6
5. Nd5-b4 / Bf8xb4
6. c3xb4 / Ng8-f6
7. Ng1-f3 / Bc8-g4
8. Qd1-c2 / o-o
9. Nf3xe5 / Tf8-e8
10. f2-f4 / Nb8-d7
11. Bf1-c4 (?)/ Nd7xe5

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Question: You just added a (?) to my move 11. I've seen both (?) and (!) used in chess notation. What do they mean, and are there specific rules for when they're used, or are they just added on the whim of the notetaker?
1. Nb1-c3 / d7-d5
2. e2-e4 / d5-d4
3. Nc3-d5 / e7-e5
4. c2-c3 / c7-c6
5. Nd5-b4 / Bf8xb4
6. c3xb4 / Ng8-f6
7. Ng1-f3 / Bc8-g4
8. Qd1-c2 / o-o
9. Nf3xe5 / Tf8-e8
10. f2-f4 / Nb8-d7
11. Bf1-c4 (?)/ Nd7xe5
12. f4xe5 /

1. Nb1-c3 / d7-d5
2. e2-e4 / d5-d4
3. Nc3-d5 / e7-e5
4. c2-c3 / c7-c6
5. Nd5-b4 / Bf8xb4
6. c3xb4 / Ng8-f6
7. Ng1-f3 / Bc8-g4
8. Qd1-c2 / o-o
9. Nf3xe5 / Tf8-e8
10. f2-f4 / Nb8-d7
11. Bf1-c4 (?)/ Nd7xe5
12. f4xe5 /

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Re: Chess - Game 1: c-square - Callid
? means bad move.
! means good move.
!!, ??, !!! and ? ?? are similar.
(!) and (?) mean that it looks like or turns out in most cases as a good/bad move. With adding the (?), I said that I thought Bf1-c4 to be a bad move (why not Ne5xd7). Of course there are no rules for this.
And now the question for you: based on the things above, what is "!?"?
1. Nb1-c3 / d7-d5
2. e2-e4 / d5-d4
3. Nc3-d5 / e7-e5
4. c2-c3 / c7-c6
5. Nd5-b4 / Bf8xb4
6. c3xb4 / Ng8-f6
7. Ng1-f3 / Bc8-g4
8. Qd1-c2 / o-o
9. Nf3xe5 / Tf8-e8
10. f2-f4 / Nb8-d7
11. Bf1-c4 (?)/ Nd7xe5
12. f4xe5 / Te8xe5

! means good move.
!!, ??, !!! and ? ?? are similar.
(!) and (?) mean that it looks like or turns out in most cases as a good/bad move. With adding the (?), I said that I thought Bf1-c4 to be a bad move (why not Ne5xd7). Of course there are no rules for this.
And now the question for you: based on the things above, what is "!?"?
1. Nb1-c3 / d7-d5
2. e2-e4 / d5-d4
3. Nc3-d5 / e7-e5
4. c2-c3 / c7-c6
5. Nd5-b4 / Bf8xb4
6. c3xb4 / Ng8-f6
7. Ng1-f3 / Bc8-g4
8. Qd1-c2 / o-o
9. Nf3xe5 / Tf8-e8
10. f2-f4 / Nb8-d7
11. Bf1-c4 (?)/ Nd7xe5
12. f4xe5 / Te8xe5

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A ? usually is used to mark a bad move (Example: Qc3?). In comparison ! is used to show a strong move while ?! is used to mark an interesting move.
However you shouldn't use these while writing down the game itself, only afterwards when you knw the results of your match.
However you shouldn't use these while writing down the game itself, only afterwards when you knw the results of your match.

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Re: Chess - Game 1: c-square - Callid
That's the reason why I put it in brackets.Schillok wrote: A ? usually is used to mark a bad move (Example: Qc3?). In comparison ! is used to show a strong move while ?! is used to mark an interesting move.
However you shouldn't use these while writing down the game itself, only afterwards when you knw the results of your match.
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Re: Chess - Game 1: c-square - Callid
I'd guess that it's a move that could be good or could be bad, but is probably daring either way.Callid wrote: And now the question for you: based on the things above, what is "!?"?
1. Nb1-c3 / d7-d5
2. e2-e4 / d5-d4
3. Nc3-d5 / e7-e5
4. c2-c3 / c7-c6
5. Nd5-b4 / Bf8xb4
6. c3xb4 / Ng8-f6
7. Ng1-f3 / Bc8-g4
8. Qd1-c2 / o-o
9. Nf3xe5 / Tf8-e8
10. f2-f4 / Nb8-d7
11. Bf1-c4 (?)/ Nd7xe5
12. f4xe5 / Te8xe5
13. d2-d3 /

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Re: Chess - Game 1: c-square - Callid
Yes, you could put it that way.
1. Nb1-c3 / d7-d5
2. e2-e4 / d5-d4
3. Nc3-d5 / e7-e5
4. c2-c3 / c7-c6
5. Nd5-b4 / Bf8xb4
6. c3xb4 / Ng8-f6
7. Ng1-f3 / Bc8-g4
8. Qd1-c2 / o-o
9. Nf3xe5 / Tf8-e8
10. f2-f4 / Nb8-d7
11. Bf1-c4 (?)/ Nd7xe5
12. f4xe5 / Te8xe5
13. d2-d3 / b7-b5

1. Nb1-c3 / d7-d5
2. e2-e4 / d5-d4
3. Nc3-d5 / e7-e5
4. c2-c3 / c7-c6
5. Nd5-b4 / Bf8xb4
6. c3xb4 / Ng8-f6
7. Ng1-f3 / Bc8-g4
8. Qd1-c2 / o-o
9. Nf3xe5 / Tf8-e8
10. f2-f4 / Nb8-d7
11. Bf1-c4 (?)/ Nd7xe5
12. f4xe5 / Te8xe5
13. d2-d3 / b7-b5

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[quote="Callid"]
1. Nb1-c3 / d7-d5
2. e2-e4 / d5-d4
3. Nc3-d5 / e7-e5
4. c2-c3 / c7-c6
5. Nd5-b4 / Bf8xb4
6. c3xb4 / Ng8-f6
7. Ng1-f3 / Bc8-g4
8. Qd1-c2 / o-o
9. Nf3xe5 / Tf8-e8
10. f2-f4 / Nb8-d7
11. Bf1-c4 (?)/ Nd7xe5
12. f4xe5 / Te8xe5
13. d2-d3 / b7-b5
14. Bc4-b3 /

1. Nb1-c3 / d7-d5
2. e2-e4 / d5-d4
3. Nc3-d5 / e7-e5
4. c2-c3 / c7-c6
5. Nd5-b4 / Bf8xb4
6. c3xb4 / Ng8-f6
7. Ng1-f3 / Bc8-g4
8. Qd1-c2 / o-o
9. Nf3xe5 / Tf8-e8
10. f2-f4 / Nb8-d7
11. Bf1-c4 (?)/ Nd7xe5
12. f4xe5 / Te8xe5
13. d2-d3 / b7-b5
14. Bc4-b3 /

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Re: Chess - Game 1: c-square - Callid
1. Nb1-c3 / d7-d5
2. e2-e4 / d5-d4
3. Nc3-d5 / e7-e5
4. c2-c3 / c7-c6
5. Nd5-b4 / Bf8xb4
6. c3xb4 / Ng8-f6
7. Ng1-f3 / Bc8-g4
8. Qd1-c2 / o-o
9. Nf3xe5 / Tf8-e8
10. f2-f4 / Nb8-d7
11. Bf1-c4 (?)/ Nd7xe5
12. f4xe5 / Te8xe5
13. d2-d3 / b7-b5
14. Bc4-b3 / Qd8-d6

2. e2-e4 / d5-d4
3. Nc3-d5 / e7-e5
4. c2-c3 / c7-c6
5. Nd5-b4 / Bf8xb4
6. c3xb4 / Ng8-f6
7. Ng1-f3 / Bc8-g4
8. Qd1-c2 / o-o
9. Nf3xe5 / Tf8-e8
10. f2-f4 / Nb8-d7
11. Bf1-c4 (?)/ Nd7xe5
12. f4xe5 / Te8xe5
13. d2-d3 / b7-b5
14. Bc4-b3 / Qd8-d6

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Re: Chess - Game 1: c-square - Callid
This is quite an interesting game. I wonder if c-square will make the move I'm thinking of.
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I wonder as well...Umandsf wrote: This is quite an interesting game. I wonder if c-square will make the move I'm thinking of.
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Re: Chess - Game 1: c-square - Callid
I don't know. Is this it?Callid wrote:I wonder as well...Umandsf wrote: This is quite an interesting game. I wonder if c-square will make the move I'm thinking of.
1. Nb1-c3 / d7-d5
2. e2-e4 / d5-d4
3. Nc3-d5 / e7-e5
4. c2-c3 / c7-c6
5. Nd5-b4 / Bf8xb4
6. c3xb4 / Ng8-f6
7. Ng1-f3 / Bc8-g4
8. Qd1-c2 / o-o
9. Nf3xe5 / Tf8-e8
10. f2-f4 / Nb8-d7
11. Bf1-c4 (?)/ Nd7xe5
12. f4xe5 / Te8xe5
13. d2-d3 / b7-b5
14. Bc4-b3 / Qd8-d6
15. h2-h3 /

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Re: Chess - Game 1: c-square - Callid
It isn't. I thought of Qd2.
1. Nb1-c3 / d7-d5
2. e2-e4 / d5-d4
3. Nc3-d5 / e7-e5
4. c2-c3 / c7-c6
5. Nd5-b4 / Bf8xb4
6. c3xb4 / Ng8-f6
7. Ng1-f3 / Bc8-g4
8. Qd1-c2 / o-o
9. Nf3xe5 / Tf8-e8
10. f2-f4 / Nb8-d7
11. Bf1-c4 (?)/ Nd7xe5
12. f4xe5 / Te8xe5
13. d2-d3 / b7-b5
14. Bc4-b3 / Qd8-d6
15. h2-h3 / Lg4-f5

1. Nb1-c3 / d7-d5
2. e2-e4 / d5-d4
3. Nc3-d5 / e7-e5
4. c2-c3 / c7-c6
5. Nd5-b4 / Bf8xb4
6. c3xb4 / Ng8-f6
7. Ng1-f3 / Bc8-g4
8. Qd1-c2 / o-o
9. Nf3xe5 / Tf8-e8
10. f2-f4 / Nb8-d7
11. Bf1-c4 (?)/ Nd7xe5
12. f4xe5 / Te8xe5
13. d2-d3 / b7-b5
14. Bc4-b3 / Qd8-d6
15. h2-h3 / Lg4-f5

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Re: Chess - Game 1: c-square - Callid
That one didn't come to mind. It would have blocked in my bishop.Callid wrote: It isn't. I thought of Qd2.
1. Nb1-c3 / d7-d5
2. e2-e4 / d5-d4
3. Nc3-d5 / e7-e5
4. c2-c3 / c7-c6
5. Nd5-b4 / Bf8xb4
6. c3xb4 / Ng8-f6
7. Ng1-f3 / Bc8-g4
8. Qd1-c2 / o-o
9. Nf3xe5 / Tf8-e8
10. f2-f4 / Nb8-d7
11. Bf1-c4 (?)/ Nd7xe5
12. f4xe5 / Te8xe5
13. d2-d3 / b7-b5
14. Bc4-b3 / Qd8-d6
15. h2-h3 / Lg4-f5
16. o-o /

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