Detective Conan Files 796-800 Discussion Thread: Dun dun dun

[MaitreDétective]

I'm quite confused about something

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If Tooru is Bourbon, how come he has the time to work in a café, be a private detective and search informations for the BO?

[believer08]

I'm quite confused about something

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If Tooru is Bourbon, how come he has the time to work in a café, be a private detective and search informations for the BO?

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He should not rise suspiction, if he were alone, without any job, how on earth could he aproach the target? It'd been even more suspicious. I don't know, is just an opinion.

[Akonyl]

Just a speculation , Amuro (bourbon) is not the real enemy, it´s another person. In my opinion, the real enemy is Calvados, that is alive.
But i don´t have evidence, it´s all speculation.

Amuro: "Black Organization? What are you talking about? This woman just started blackmailing me!"
Conan: "But... she called you Bourbon!"
Amuro: "...yeah, my name's "Amuro Bourbon Tohru", so what?! My parents liked alcohol!"

[sonuyos]

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i think that Shuichi AKAI=Subaru Okiya=Bourbon as in 800.......Subaru Okiya tried to somehow tried 2 stop the car and then Vermouth talked to Bourbon and i have a strong feeling that Akai is Bourbon and if not that then Tooru can be Bourbon as he could be the only one as Sera could not be the one as she is a CIA agent because she knows everything about Conan which is not possible for BO so it is either TOORU or AKAI or Subaru but with the character of Subaru he seems to be the most suspicious that he is AKAI or BOURBON or both.

[believer08]

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i think that Shuichi AKAI=Subaru Okiya=Bourbon as in 800.......Subaru Okiya tried to somehow tried 2 stop the car and then Vermouth talked to Bourbon and i have a strong feeling that Akai is Bourbon and if not that then Tooru can be Bourbon as he could be the only one as Sera could not be the one as she is a CIA agent because she knows everything about Conan which is not possible for BO so it is either TOORU or AKAI or Subaru but with the character of Subaru he seems to be the most suspicious that he is AKAI or BOURBON or both.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but...

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you are suggesting that Akai IS actually Bourbon? That's Impossible.

[MSUser]

Also, if the next file is DB I'm gonna laugh so hard.

BO in combination with DB usually leads to awkward kidnapping/bombing cases, forcing Bourbon/Vermouth to save Conan/Ran from being killed.
Oh wait, we just had that.

At least it makes a lot more sense that Bourbon=Scar Akai (this was doubted by somebody) since we can now be sure that back in the bank robbing case, Scar Akai saved Conan out of the same reasons as in the current file 800.

[Chekhov MacGuffin]

On a more serious note:
Isn't Amuro supposed to be right-handed?!
Conan gave use a hint with the case: (gosho deliberately wanted to show that, that's why the right-handiness fake thing seems so "forced")
http://dctp.ws/V76-Reader/V76-5Read/A5.html
"When people get surprised, they often touch their faces to calm themselves, and that's when they unthinkingly use their dominant hand"
And now to page 15:
http://dctp.ws/V76-Reader/V76-5Read/A15.html
Amuro, being surprised/in deep thought touches his face with his left hand! D: After that he also holds his phone with his left hand.

Amuro is working up to be right-handed so far. The truth is that Gosho is not absolutely consistent with keeping characters entirely one handedness or the other, and phones and listening devices and gestures and face touching are the least reliable events that can be used to determine handedness.

You should check out this list which looks at Okiya, Sera, Amuro, Akai, Gin, and Vodka and lists pretty much every instance where handedness is able to be determined and is sorted by the type of activities: http://www.detectiveconanworld.com/wiki ... Handedness

I'm quite confused about something. If Tooru is Bourbon, how come he has the time to work in a café, be a private detective and search informations for the BO?

His primary mission right now probably relates to Akai, and that hasn't been going all that well. He probably has the time. BO members so far have been shown to be quite efficient.

Amuro: "Black Organization? What are you talking about? This woman just started blackmailing me!"
Conan: "But... she called you Bourbon!"
Amuro: "...yeah, my name's "Amuro Bourbon Tohru", so what?! My parents liked alcohol!"

*facefault*

[Stopwatch]

*relieved* So the handedness was really nothing after all...

For next file, I wonder if the police will appear, after all, a car crash would attract a lot of attention and they need to get the robber and woman to prison... It'll be interesting if Aoyama actually decides to follow up on Conan acting all meitantei like to the woman, but he doesn't normally so I'm kinda doubtful of that...

[club24]

As part of the agreement to make the mask, Vermouth made him promise not to touch and/or generally keep and eye on Conan and Ran. (Why? A secret makes a woman, woman, and I have more seniority than you)

I'm confused with this part. Why does Vermouth want to protect Conan and Ran? I don't remember her owing something to them and I thought the BO consider Shinchi as a threat to their organization.

[ddrober2003]

As part of the agreement to make the mask, Vermouth made him promise not to touch and/or generally keep and eye on Conan and Ran. (Why? A secret makes a woman, woman, and I have more seniority than you)

I'm confused with this part. Why does Vermouth want to protect Conan and Ran? I don't remember her owing something to them and I thought the BO consider Shinchi as a threat to their organization.

In the golden apple arch I seem to remember Shinchi or Ran....or both saving Vermouth.  As for why she wants to protect someone she may know is a threat to the organization, I don't think they've gone into that....erm how do I put this in spoilers...if it needs to be in spoilers that is?

[Chekhov MacGuffin]

I'm confused with this part. Why does Vermouth want to protect Conan and Ran? I don't remember her owing something to them and I thought the BO consider Shinchi as a threat to their organization.

In the golden apple arc I seem to remember Shinchi or Ran....or both saving Vermouth.  As for why she wants to protect someone she may know is a threat to the organization, I don't think they've gone into that....erm how do I put this in spoilers...if it needs to be in spoilers that is?

Vermouth is grateful to Ran and Shinichi for saving her in the Golden Apple case. Her gratitude may also extend to Yukiko for being her friend, so she looks out for Shinichi because he is Yukiko's son. After being saved, Vermouth's personality seems to become slightly less cruel (although she is still pretty bad), and she may credit Shinichi and Ran with giving her some new hope in life.
Vermouth has already tried to rescue Conan once when Gin ordered Chianti to kill Conan. She already keep secrets to protect him; she realized Conan bugged Kir which is the source of the static, but she tells Gin it's nothing.
Vermouth may have other ulterior motives as well. A theory that gets bounced around is that she actually wants someone to end the Organization (because she lost faith in the mission?), but is unwilling or unable to do so herself. This explains why she talks about needing "silver bullets."

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[Kleene Onigiri]

@Chek: So you think Gosho made a mistake, on Amuro, where the whole case was about being left- or right handed? :V
I doubt that. And Amuro did that in the same file where Conan was pointing that out. I doubt it's just "coincidence".

[believer08]

@Chek: So you think Gosho made a mistake, on Amuro, where the whole case was about being left- or right handed? :V
I doubt that. And Amuro did that in the same file where Conan was pointing that out. I doubt it's just "coincidence".

The same here. All the right/left handed thing was too forced to be just a coincidence. All of us thought that before. So, why he'd point that in such a way if it's irrelevant? My head in blank right now, damn it... ¬¬

[Partsu]

I have said this many times but I think Sera is Bourbon & Akai's sister.
She's in cahoots with Vermouth.
Amuro is just rich dude who loves playing detective.might be Akai's friend
Okiya is Akai.

somewhere in this thread I have written this already...

[leokiko]

If he is just a detective, why would his name be an reference to Akai's character rival?