What does the FBI know

[Partsu]

you are wrong to put them in such extreme categories.
Akai and Subaru are both fast thinkers...
where you see Akai being uncomfortable around people?
just because he PREFERS being alone doesn't mean he's introvert who is uncomfortable in midst of people?

and who says Subaru doesn't think before he does anything?

you know...people can be in the middle too...not everything is black&white
just because you are one doesn't mean everyone is just like you or the opposite...

people are like food... a bit of this and a bit of that...a bit of thinking side, a bit of impulsive side, few drops of introvert side, some people person, add some intelligence, some acting skills, some preferences, a bit of hate , few instance's of love,and other emotions, some shrewdness etc etc...
and so on...

[sstimson]

I suggest you check your facts and research Introverts and Extroverts. Akai is very obvious he is an introvert. Read the DCW article on him and even they say he is an introvert. His Boss Jame Black suggest he is a introvert. How much proof do you need?

Okiya seem to use food as an excuse to visit Asaga. Surely a person like Akai could think of a better reason for visiting. Okiya seem friendly and open. Most introverts are thought of antisocial and loners. Does Okiya seem that way to you? It almost as he looks for any reason to be near people. Another example is the Dept store bomb case called Red shirts look closely to how he acts when in a crowd. I see no attempts of trying to escape, or any introvert traits during that case. Most introverts try to avoid getting caught in a social situation. meaning Okiya if a introvert would not be in a crowd of people rushing to the exit. He would wait until most are gone before acting and look for an exit. After if most are leaving, the introvert is going to be in a much smaller crowd while at extrovert enjoy that crowd and the energy they are getting from it will try to stay that way as long as possible. Note What Okiya did, once they could leave. Again I see that as the actions of an extrovert.

[Partsu]

Spoiler: My rant to sstimson

...says guy who can't seem to accept facts and theories of the others...

You are pretty black and white I say...
I'm pretty much against your theory that
"Akai is Introvert , Okiya is extrovert therefore they can't be same person"

until we see Akai's life outside the work...like his childhood...
if he shown to be antisocial as a kid I'll believe you.
If he's not...

oh and I did read those and I'm pretty sure I'm right about Akai's character...but I'm horrible at explaining so I just sm it up and say that Akai we have seen is his "Workface" which he shows to ppl connected in his work...
and in his line of work being outgoing is not an option so...
but now that he's "Dead" he can be what he wants while doing his best to protect people he cares... kids!
I'm 100% sure his soft spot is little kids!

oh and what FBI knows?
Sherry=Haibara Conan=Shinichi
at least Akai and Jodie...

[Abs.]

sstimson, I think you're confusing "introvert" with "agoraphobic" or "social anxiety disorder"

[Partsu]

damn...I just found about that and once again someone beat me to it...thanks anyway...

[someone somewhere]

[quote="Partsu"]

Spoiler: My rant to sstimson

...says guy who can't seem to accept facts and theories of the others...

You are pretty black and white I say...
I'm pretty much against your theory that
"Akai is Introvert , Okiya is extrovert therefore they can't be same person"

until we see Akai's life outside the work...like his childhood...
if he shown to be antisocial as a kid I'll believe you.
If he's not...

oh and I did read those and I'm pretty sure I'm right about Akai's character...but I'm horrible at explaining so I just sm it up and say that Akai we have seen is his "Workface" which he shows to ppl connected in his work...
and in his line of work being outgoing is not an option so...
but now that he's "Dead" he can be what he wants while doing his best to protect people he cares... kids!
I'm 100% sure his soft spot is little kids!

I second Partsu that we have only seen Akai's "work face" and not much of his personal life. Furthermore, someone from FBI actually mentioned that he used to be a brighter person before the Akemi incident, so technically his bleak personality is not proven to be something that he has always been and will always be. I don't remember which case though, will look into it later.

[D.]

Spoiler: My rant to sstimson

...says guy who can't seem to accept facts and theories of the others...

You are pretty black and white I say...
I'm pretty much against your theory that
"Akai is Introvert , Okiya is extrovert therefore they can't be same person"

until we see Akai's life outside the work...like his childhood...
if he shown to be antisocial as a kid I'll believe you.
If he's not...

oh and I did read those and I'm pretty sure I'm right about Akai's character...but I'm horrible at explaining so I just sm it up and say that Akai we have seen is his "Workface" which he shows to ppl connected in his work...
and in his line of work being outgoing is not an option so...
but now that he's "Dead" he can be what he wants while doing his best to protect people he cares... kids!
I'm 100% sure his soft spot is little kids!

I second Partsu that we have only seen Akai's "work face" and not much of his personal life. Furthermore, someone from FBI actually mentioned that he used to be a brighter person before the Akemi incident, so technically his bleak personality is not proven to be something that he has always been and will always be. I don't remember which case though, will look into it later.

^ agreed

[sstimson]

sstimson, I think you're confusing "introvert" with "agoraphobic" or "social anxiety disorder"

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Introvert

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introvert - Psychology. a person characterized by concern primarily with his or her own thoughts and feelings

From Introvert

From Definition of Introvert

Definition: Contrary to what most people think, an introvert is not simply a person who is shy. In fact, being shy has little to do with being an introvert! Shyness has an element of apprehension, nervousness and anxiety, and while an introvert may also be shy, introversion itself is not shyness. Basically, an introvert is a person who is energized by being alone and whose energy is drained by being around other people.

Introverts are more concerned with the inner world of the mind. They enjoy thinking, exploring their thoughts and feelings. They often avoid social situations because being around people drains their energy. This is true even if they have good social skills. After being with people for any length of time, such as at a party, they need time alone to "recharge."

When introverts want to be alone, it is not, by itself, a sign of depression. It means that they either need to regain their energy from being around people or that they simply want the time to be with their own thoughts. Being with people, even people they like and are comfortable with, can prevent them from their desire to be quietly introspective.

Being introspective, though, does not mean that an introvert never has conversations. However, those conversations are generally about ideas and concepts, not about what they consider the trivial matters of social small talk.

Introverts make up about 60% of the gifted population but only about 25-40% of the general population.

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agoraphobic

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From Agoraphobia

The essential feature of Agoraphobia is anxiety about being in places or situations from which escape might be difficult (or embarrassing) or in which help may not be available in the event of having a Panic Attack or panic-like symptoms.

Agoraphobic fears typically involve characteristic clusters of situations that include being outside the home alone; being in a crowd or standing in a line; being on a bridge; and traveling in a bus, train, or automobile.

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social anxiety disorder

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From Social Anxiety Disorder

Social Anxiety Disorder

Social anxiety disorder, also called social phobia, is an anxiety disorder in which a person has an excessive and unreasonable fear of social situations. Anxiety (intense nervousness) and self-consciousness arise from a fear of being closely watched, judged, and criticized by others.

A person with social anxiety disorder is afraid that he or she will make mistakes and be embarrassed or humiliated in front of others. The fear may be made worse by a lack of social skills or experience in social situations. The anxiety can build into a panic attack. As a result of the fear, the person endures certain social situations in extreme distress or may avoid them altogether. In addition, people with social anxiety disorder often suffer "anticipatory" anxiety -- the fear of a situation before it even happens -- for days or weeks before the event. In many cases, the person is aware that the fear is unreasonable, yet is unable to overcome it.

People with social anxiety disorder suffer from distorted thinking, including false beliefs about social situations and the negative opinions of others. Without treatment, social anxiety disorder can negatively interfere with the person's normal daily routine, including school, work, social activities, and relationships.

People with social anxiety disorder may be afraid of a specific situation, such as speaking in public. However, most people with social anxiety disorder fear more than one social situation. Other situations that commonly provoke anxiety include:

   Eating or drinking in front of others.
   Writing or working in front of others.
   Being the center of attention.
   Interacting with people, including dating or going to parties.
   Asking questions or giving reports in groups.
   Using public toilets.
   Talking on the telephone.

Social anxiety disorder may be linked to other mental illnesses, such as panic disorder, obsessive-compulsive disorder, and depression. In fact, many people with social anxiety disorder initially see the doctor with complaints related to these disorders, not because of social anxiety symptoms.

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I am suggesting Akai is the first:  Introvert. It is very clear even to me that he is not the later two.

And as for work vs home enviroment, well let me put in this way. Introvert is not something that one can just turn off when they want and then go somewhere and then turn it back on. It is there at all times. If it is there at work, it will be there at home. It is part of what makes a person who they are.

[Stopwatch]

Sstimon, you are aware that most people have some introvert traits and some extrovert traits, right? It is extremely rare for someone to be totally introvert or totally extrovert. Plus, it's pretty hard to measure what makes up an 'introvert' anyway, so while I'd say that Akai leans on the introvert side, he is not fully 'introverted' so you can't take your sources on introverts as complete fact when applying them to a person or character (such as Akai).
Besides, your original point was that Akai can't act as a different personality for long periods of time. Lets take a previous example from the manga then (:P), Shinichi's normal personality is on the introverted side (though admittedly he has some pretty significant extrovert ones too that tend to show up when he shares his deductions IMO :x), now... he acts as 'Conan', right? And he does this for long periods of time, successfully, meaning that 'introverts' (as you put it) can act as a different, more 'extroverted' personality for extended amounts of time. You could also couple this with the fact that Akai isn't even acting as Okiya most of the time (he doesn't really go round and talk to others much unless it's important) so it isn't really 'extended time' anyway, more often than not he just has to sit there in his diguise and put on his 'Okiya' act for a bit if he goes over to give Haibara some of his cooking again.

[someone somewhere]

I don't think anyone is trying to refute the proposition that Akai is an introvert. The issue is that even though Okiya appears to not be as introverted as Akai, does not rule out the possibility that they are one person disguised as another.

"If it is there at work, it will be there at home. It is part of what makes a person who they are."
It certainly is there, but it doesn't mean that he can't cover it up. Yes, he needs to put in some effort to pull it off but doesn't mean that he can't do it. Assuming that Akai has melancholic personality, he is thus task-oriented and perfectionist to some extent.

He has a task at hand (protecting Conan so that he doesn't lose a precious ally to defeat the BO) and he will spend the effort to accomplish it in the most natural manner. For that matter, food is always the most convenient and natural way to build a relationship with one's neighbors (well, in Asia at least). Earning Agasa's and Ai's trust is a crucial part of his task (do I have to spell out why?).

Now, which one makes it easier for Okiya/Akai to earn Agasa's and Ai's trust so that he can help Conan?
a.) Coming over with a gesture of goodwill, realizing that neighbor "happens to be" in trouble and offering help
OR
b.) Coming over with "Hey I bugged your house. Heard you're in trouble. GET INTO MY CAR NOW!"

Not saying that what I said means that Okiya is 100% Akai, just that up to now there has been no contradiction strong enough to debunk the theory. There are other possibilities, of course, if Gosho likes it.

P.S. This thread is originally about what the FBI knows. Not about whether Akai is introvert or extrovert or has personality disorders.

[D.]

Returning to what the FBI know topic ...

Does anyone from the FBI know about anyone from the police detectives? Agent Camel and Jodie may know about Takagi and Megure. Anyone else?

[sstimson]

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Returning to what the FBI know topic ...

Does anyone from the FBI know about anyone from the police detectives? Agent Camel and Jodie may know about Takagi and Megure. Anyone else?

Game Murder 270-272 Jodie -Takagi , Megure. And not may, know.
Busjack 287-289 Jodie, Akai - Takagi, Megure, and Sato , May to all as Sato was part of that case
James Black Kidnapping 325-327 James Black, Akai - Yumi, Sato, Takagi
The meaning of X 338-340 Jodie - Takagi, Chiba, Megure
Who  are you 341-343 Jodie - Takagi, Megure
Posche case 420 -422 Jodie - Takagi, Megure

That Brings us up to the Monster Party

@somone, reread this thread. Okiya in the red shirt case did not act like an introvert, but an extrovert. He did not stay behind like an introvert would do, instead he joined the crowd willing, again like what an extrovert, not introvert would do.

[Chekhov MacGuffin]

I don't think anyone is trying to refute the proposition that Akai is an introvert. The issue is that even though Okiya appears to not be as introverted as Akai, does not rule out the possibility that they are one person disguised as another.

"If it is there at work, it will be there at home. It is part of what makes a person who they are."
It certainly is there, but it doesn't mean that he can't cover it up. Yes, he needs to put in some effort to pull it off but doesn't mean that he can't do it. Assuming that Akai has melancholic personality, he is thus task-oriented and perfectionist to some extent.

He has a task at hand (protecting Conan so that he doesn't lose a precious ally to defeat the BO) and he will spend the effort to accomplish it in the most natural manner. For that matter, food is always the most convenient and natural way to build a relationship with one's neighbors (well, in Asia at least). Earning Agasa's and Ai's trust is a crucial part of his task (do I have to spell out why?).

Now, which one makes it easier for Okiya/Akai to earn Agasa's and Ai's trust so that he can help Conan?
a.) Coming over with a gesture of goodwill, realizing that neighbor "happens to be" in trouble and offering help
OR
b.) Coming over with "Hey I bugged your house. Heard you're in trouble. GET INTO MY CAR NOW!"

Not saying that what I said means that Okiya is 100% Akai, just that up to now there has been no contradiction strong enough to debunk the theory. There are other possibilities, of course, if Gosho likes it.

P.S. This thread is originally about what the FBI knows. Not about whether Akai is introvert or extrovert or has personality disorders.

This and what Sonoci pointed out so elegantly with a 4koma: coming over with food as an excuse every time something seems wrong isn't exactly the height of people skills. It's awkward. Haibara should know by now that Subaru is using a neighborly gesture (the same one over and over!) as an excuse to pry in, but what she doesn't know if how he knows when there is trouble.

Returning to what the FBI know topic ...

Does anyone from the FBI know about anyone from the police detectives? Agent Camel and Jodie may know about Takagi and Megure. Anyone else?

Takagi and Megure know Jodie and Camel well enough and vice versa. Akai and James Black have stayed unconnected and under the radar from the police for the most part.

[sstimson]

Akai must have answered questions about the Busjacking case

James at the moment might have escaped his kidnapping case, but to actuality try the case he will need to answer questions as well.

[mangaluva]

Did Akai use a false name when answering busjacking questions? I know Conan mentioned him being at the interrogation. Even if he was, though, I doubt he whipped out his FBI license; with the busjackers captured, I doubt the police did more than take cursory statements from the bus passengers. His statement's probably collecting dust in a back file, being literally the only contact that Akai's had with the police.

How long would the police search for James before giving up and assuming that he panicked and flew home? Hell, maybe he did take a quick flight out and then back in a little later. Again, with the criminals captured, it's not like they would be utterly depending on his statement to find anybody.