Forgive me if this has already been discussed to death.
Towards the end of 425 Jodie called Conan her favorite Detective. So that raises this question. Just how much did Conan tell her about the BO and everything including maybe himself. It is also clear that not everyone know the same amount. After all, James said he was thinking of scouting Conan for the FBI. Would he even scout Conan if he knew Conan was a Detective like Jodie does? After all in the DB case about Panda's and police cars Conan saved James. Again in the same episode, Jodie is watching Kir, but after the case, she for a moment thinks it is a dead end, until she sees Conan's worried face running after her, and just by that look decides that there might be more to Kir. All these things hint Conan told Jodie a lot about what is going on. I am wondering just how much.
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i think it's only akai who figured out conan=shinichi at max..... d rest i think don know.... dey ve excepted he is inhumanly smart kid.... sumfink stoppin dem frm cumin up wid d question straight....
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It just to me it seem Jodie must know something to have her change her mind like that. Also it I remember right is the question of when "fake" evidence was being set up to make us think she was BO are the pictures in her bathroom cabinet.
She might have been told by both Haibara and Conan their true story. Remember before the ghost pirate episode, the FBI was looking into the BO and sherry / Haibara.
She might have been told by both Haibara and Conan their true story. Remember before the ghost pirate episode, the FBI was looking into the BO and sherry / Haibara.
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Jodie calling Conan her favorite detective has nothing to do with nor does it imply Conan told Jodie anything about the BO or his identity. Jodie likes Conan because he's awesome. Jodie knows Conan is a good detective and is interested in the BO for some unknown reason and even Vermouth is interested back. She saw Conan's reaction after the Ding Dong Dash and assumed that maybe he was investigating the same thing as they were and found something. He was near Kir's place when that occurred. Jodie doesn't need to know Conan's secret identity or why Conan is even involved with the BO to figure that out.sstimson wrote: Forgive me if this has already been discussed to death.
Towards the end of 425 Jodie called Conan her favorite Detective. So that raises this question. Just how much did Conan tell her about the BO and everything including maybe himself. It is also clear that not everyone know the same amount. After all, James said he was thinking of scouting Conan for the FBI. Would he even scout Conan if he knew Conan was a Detective like Jodie does? After all in the DB case about Panda's and police cars Conan saved James. Again in the same episode, Jodie is watching Kir, but after the case, she for a moment thinks it is a dead end, until she sees Conan's worried face running after her, and just by that look decides that there might be more to Kir. All these things hint Conan told Jodie a lot about what is going on. I am wondering just how much.
As for James thinking of scouting Conan to the FBI, obviously James and Jodie talked about what happened at the Vermouth showdown and earlier interactions.
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Another yes , but
Jodie said they were watching Vermount back when she was play acting the school doctor. Way back before the FBI entered the picture but for Ran metting Akai in NY. They were watching KIR from back then as she was Visiting a little too offen, ok. I can not agree with this statement
And I am going to add this: the pictures in her bathroom. They are of Kudo during his temp return, And A picture of Conan.
That picture ( Chapter 343 page 18 ) suggest to me that there is a good chance that Jodie also figured it out and Off page told Conan and then Conan told her the whole story.
Ran even makes a comment about it ( Chapter 435 page 3)
Akai know about Haibara when he said "Besides its still out of question to have me face that brown haired girl" and he said this to Jodie (chapter 434 page 13)
Face facts. If they know about Haibara being Sherry and that she shrunk, is it really unlikely to also connect Conan to Shinichi.
And as Conan took Haibara place, is it hard to believe that they know the BO is behind the shrinking, and why Conan is interested in them?
Note another thing Akai statement to Jodie ( and yes he might be talking about Sharon being Vermount ) "No one would probably believe the truth" (also Chapter 434 Page 13) that could include Haibara being Sherry and Conan being Shinichi. I really think thee is more going beind the scene then you are seeing. I think it likely at least two of the FBI know the whole story.
Jodie said they were watching Vermount back when she was play acting the school doctor. Way back before the FBI entered the picture but for Ran metting Akai in NY. They were watching KIR from back then as she was Visiting a little too offen, ok. I can not agree with this statement
because Ding Dong Dash was completely over. She was watching so she knew that. As this event happened after The huanted party, they know Conan is interested in the BO.She saw Conan's reaction after the Ding Dong Dash and assumed that maybe he was investigating the same thing as they were and found something
And I am going to add this: the pictures in her bathroom. They are of Kudo during his temp return, And A picture of Conan.
That picture ( Chapter 343 page 18 ) suggest to me that there is a good chance that Jodie also figured it out and Off page told Conan and then Conan told her the whole story.
Ran even makes a comment about it ( Chapter 435 page 3)
Akai know about Haibara when he said "Besides its still out of question to have me face that brown haired girl" and he said this to Jodie (chapter 434 page 13)
Face facts. If they know about Haibara being Sherry and that she shrunk, is it really unlikely to also connect Conan to Shinichi.
And as Conan took Haibara place, is it hard to believe that they know the BO is behind the shrinking, and why Conan is interested in them?
Note another thing Akai statement to Jodie ( and yes he might be talking about Sharon being Vermount ) "No one would probably believe the truth" (also Chapter 434 Page 13) that could include Haibara being Sherry and Conan being Shinichi. I really think thee is more going beind the scene then you are seeing. I think it likely at least two of the FBI know the whole story.
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The situation is definitely peculiar. If the FBI has no idea why and in which way Conan is connected to the BO, it is hard to believe that they would involve a 7-year old in a fight against a highly lethal organization.
The only reasons I can come up with (right now) are:
+ He outsmarts them all and they have to acknowledge that fact.
+ They assume (correctly) that he would fight either way and is probably a lot safer, when around them. (What they might forget is that the same applies to them: they are a LOT safer, when he is around)
This, of course, might be enough to do so.
To the question, if they know something:
First of all, Conan wouldn't have told them anything about the APTX 4869... he still falls often into childish ways of talking around Jodie and (if we accept the general consensus by Chekhov, that Okiya is Akai) he also tries to prevent that Akai finds this connection. Remember, he told Ran to keep quiet around Okiya. Thus, I doubt that they could have more than suspicions at the moment.
But there you might be right:
+ Akai apparently knows that Shiho shrunk, thus he should be able to make this inference about Conan, although he might not know, who Conan originally was.
+ Jodie has seen pictures of Shinichi and Conan, has seen them both deducing... thus, she also has enough material to make this inference... then again, she saw Conan and Shinichi at the same time during the school play... and then again, after Conan ripping Ai's face from his own she knows that that doesn't mean anything...
- Jodie, while admiring her favorite detective, still sometimes doubts his ingenuity... or maybe she simply can't follow him...
So... to sum up: they should be suspicious, they might even be positive about it, but Conan definitely hasn't told them the truth!
The only reasons I can come up with (right now) are:
+ He outsmarts them all and they have to acknowledge that fact.
+ They assume (correctly) that he would fight either way and is probably a lot safer, when around them. (What they might forget is that the same applies to them: they are a LOT safer, when he is around)
This, of course, might be enough to do so.
To the question, if they know something:
First of all, Conan wouldn't have told them anything about the APTX 4869... he still falls often into childish ways of talking around Jodie and (if we accept the general consensus by Chekhov, that Okiya is Akai) he also tries to prevent that Akai finds this connection. Remember, he told Ran to keep quiet around Okiya. Thus, I doubt that they could have more than suspicions at the moment.
But there you might be right:
+ Akai apparently knows that Shiho shrunk, thus he should be able to make this inference about Conan, although he might not know, who Conan originally was.
+ Jodie has seen pictures of Shinichi and Conan, has seen them both deducing... thus, she also has enough material to make this inference... then again, she saw Conan and Shinichi at the same time during the school play... and then again, after Conan ripping Ai's face from his own she knows that that doesn't mean anything...
- Jodie, while admiring her favorite detective, still sometimes doubts his ingenuity... or maybe she simply can't follow him...
So... to sum up: they should be suspicious, they might even be positive about it, but Conan definitely hasn't told them the truth!
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All I can say Is I am certain that at least Jodie knows. She make a comment during the Haunted Ship case that for me iced it. She said something like is the Brown hair Girl, the same person as the adult photo. She know shrinking is possible. She also know Conan is too smart for his own good, and then there is her own quote" He is my favorite Detective". Not the words child, or young, or even teen. But the word Detective with no qualifiers. And because of that case Jodie likely asked the question off screen as Conan would have told her the truth. There are times to avoid unwanted attention, it is better to tell the truth. Jodie likes her questions answered, If Conan did not tell her the truth, I sure he would have a lot of unwanted attention that might be more dangerous then telling her.
And why not? The Bo is already their enemy. The FBI has most of the pieces. There is no reason not to tell them, and that way Conan can help even though he just a "KID".
Also they also said "For now, we let him (Conan) protect her (Haibara), not something that normally the FBI would do. Again it you look, the clues are there.
And why not? The Bo is already their enemy. The FBI has most of the pieces. There is no reason not to tell them, and that way Conan can help even though he just a "KID".
Also they also said "For now, we let him (Conan) protect her (Haibara), not something that normally the FBI would do. Again it you look, the clues are there.
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Technically, she only asks Vermouth, if Haibara is the same person as Shiho. Vermouth never gave her an answer. Actually Vermouth hasn't answered a single question of Jodie, despite the fact that she was confident to put a bullet between her eyes. Thus, no confirmation about the possibility of shrinking there.
Then, and this might just be my opinion, if she knew his secret, it would be rather stupid to give his fingerprints to the police as they might figure it out (Takagi might have). I know she wasn't thinking rationally at this point, because of her feelings for Akai, but still.
Last but not least... there is a reason, why he shouldn't tell the FBI. He can't be sure if the BO has a spy among them. Of course, if we assume that, it would be reckless to show his detective skills around them. Nevertheless I believe Conan is aware that as soon as he tells another person the flow of this information is out of his hands and that is why he is prone to keeping his and Ai's secret.
I agree with you that they might/should be suspicious, that they might even 'know' (like the Catholic church knew that the earth was disc), but in my opinion Conan hasn't confirmed this story to anyone from the FBI (not even between pages).
Then, and this might just be my opinion, if she knew his secret, it would be rather stupid to give his fingerprints to the police as they might figure it out (Takagi might have). I know she wasn't thinking rationally at this point, because of her feelings for Akai, but still.
Last but not least... there is a reason, why he shouldn't tell the FBI. He can't be sure if the BO has a spy among them. Of course, if we assume that, it would be reckless to show his detective skills around them. Nevertheless I believe Conan is aware that as soon as he tells another person the flow of this information is out of his hands and that is why he is prone to keeping his and Ai's secret.
I agree with you that they might/should be suspicious, that they might even 'know' (like the Catholic church knew that the earth was disc), but in my opinion Conan hasn't confirmed this story to anyone from the FBI (not even between pages).
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Okay, how about this? We know Vermouth bugged Asaga house. If Jodie bugged Vermouth house then she would hear what vermouth heard. Question: How did Jodie know Vermouth called Asaga as Dr Araide on the night of the monster party to get Haibara saying Dr Araide call her and ask her to pick up Haibara (We know that was a lie). Now think about that. How did Jodie know that Vermouth was making her move unless Vermouth house was bugged. If so then Jodie knows everything as Conan was talking and Vermouth listening about Him being Shinichi and Haibara being Sherry.
Fingerprint thing is unavoidable. Conan sometimes is in the right place to touch something the murder ends up using, and the police want to know whos' fingerprints are on that object, and so they must have his fingerprints. There is no way around it.
I am thinking and saying this. Others like Heiji, Jodie, Vermouth, and Akai learned about his status either from bugging devices, or figuring it out. Once that happens, Conan gains nothing from not telling them, and then they are likely to try to find out why when they told him they knew, he deny it. This is a time when it best to be up front and tell the whole story.
Fingerprint thing is unavoidable. Conan sometimes is in the right place to touch something the murder ends up using, and the police want to know whos' fingerprints are on that object, and so they must have his fingerprints. There is no way around it.
I am thinking and saying this. Others like Heiji, Jodie, Vermouth, and Akai learned about his status either from bugging devices, or figuring it out. Once that happens, Conan gains nothing from not telling them, and then they are likely to try to find out why when they told him they knew, he deny it. This is a time when it best to be up front and tell the whole story.
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I am pretty sure we saw Jodie listening to Vermouth's hideout at some point, thus explaining how she kew Vermouth was going to make her move. On the other hand, Vermouth knew they entered her hideout and probably bugged it, so I am guessing that she wanted Jodie there.
Regarding Jodie hearing what went on in Agasa's house I claim: didn't happen. But there I might be wrong, since I didn't look up all the evidence. However I searched for a picture and found it at the beginning of the Haunted Ship Case, where Vermouth is listening to them with headphones on, meaning there is no sound of it in her hideout.
Since I believe Vermouth was aware of the bugs, she wouldn't let Jodie hear any of the truth. Conan, Ai and Agasa didn't just discuss their shrinking in the house, but also any information they have on the BO, which in Sherry's case should still be a mouthful. I can't see Vermouth taking the risk that Jodie gets to hear those information.
And up to now you have carefully avoided to answer a very vital question: why doesn't Conan want Okiya to know anything about Shinichi?
Since we all assume that he is Akai, there should be no problem knowing anything about Shinichi, if he in fact knows that Conan is the afore-mentioned Meitantei. And if Akai doesn't know, Jodie doesn't know either, that's axiomatic ^^.
But you are definitely right on your last point: if they confronted him, it would be smarter to just admit to it and try to reduce information leakage. Because unlike Ran they have the means to prove it.
Regarding Jodie hearing what went on in Agasa's house I claim: didn't happen. But there I might be wrong, since I didn't look up all the evidence. However I searched for a picture and found it at the beginning of the Haunted Ship Case, where Vermouth is listening to them with headphones on, meaning there is no sound of it in her hideout.
Since I believe Vermouth was aware of the bugs, she wouldn't let Jodie hear any of the truth. Conan, Ai and Agasa didn't just discuss their shrinking in the house, but also any information they have on the BO, which in Sherry's case should still be a mouthful. I can't see Vermouth taking the risk that Jodie gets to hear those information.
And up to now you have carefully avoided to answer a very vital question: why doesn't Conan want Okiya to know anything about Shinichi?
Since we all assume that he is Akai, there should be no problem knowing anything about Shinichi, if he in fact knows that Conan is the afore-mentioned Meitantei. And if Akai doesn't know, Jodie doesn't know either, that's axiomatic ^^.
But you are definitely right on your last point: if they confronted him, it would be smarter to just admit to it and try to reduce information leakage. Because unlike Ran they have the means to prove it.
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I am getting close to adding proof that Jodie know about Conan being Shinichi. The FBI and Akai was definely listen to Calls that went to Asaga. His phone was Bugged. Now either the FBI is listening to the Bug that the Bo planted, or they planted their own.
First I will show Vermouth listening to Conan talking at Agasa's Place. (Chapter 429 Page 8). The same page shows that Vermouth knows.
Now for an FBI bug. This one is a phone Bug. And that is a panel where Akai is listening in (chapter 422 Page 15). If that bug is set in the room and is not just a tap then the FBI (Akai) can also hear the "private" discussions going on in that room.
As I just showed, we know Akai at least is listening in. Akai comment in an earlier chapter (Chapter 419 Page 18) shows that he thinks that Haibara is Sherry, his comment "It is too alike" when looking at a picture of Haibara. Also a Vermouth/Araide phone bug he is listening to (Chapter 422 Page 5)
Now we come to Jodie. I will show my reasoning why I am sure she knows, but first I might need to lay some background.
Heiji in chapter 343 Page 16 shows us another clue of the truth about. He said "She does not seem like a bad person" suggesting that Jodie is not a BO member and can not be Vermouth. Remember even though Conan is not as sure, that Heiji thoughts are correct. Now in the same case (Chapter 343 Page 18), Jodie mentions Kudo Shinichi, and she has Pictures of both Kudo and Conan without his mask. (So as smart as we know she is, she might have noticed the differences in face features between Conan unmasked and Haibara with a mask acting like Conan). Note she also has a partly covered up photo of Dr. Araide, who she knows as we will learn later is Vermouth.
By the end of Chapter 354 we should know that Akai is Fbi (chapter 354 page 18)
Back to Jodie. Look at Chapter 422 Page 4, Jodie has seen Vermouth picture of sherry and is think of that when she thinks"maybe its...her (unthought but clear) Next we go to Chapter 426 Page 7) Ran start talking about Shinichi without using his name. Jodie comes up with that.
Next page (Chapter 426 Page 8) Jodie suggest that Conan like Shinichi is stubborn, maybe a minor clue, that she knows the truth.
from this you should be able to see bugs planted. I know Akai was listening to Vermoth, I am guessing that he and Jodie as they both work for the FBI would share information
I am also sure by the End of the Ghost ship both Jodie and Akai know all.
As far as Okiya, I still think he is what he is a graduate student and nothing more. But if is possible that the stuff was hidden not just from him , but another possible visit from the BO. We know the Haibara came twice and marked him dead, but like I think with KIR, that information became suspect after Haibara left the BO and they might well check it again. It would be really bad if any old pictures were left behind showing Shinichi in Grade School. That could tip off the BO to where Conan is now.
So maybe you will see why I disagree with you. There are hints all over the place that at least Akai and Jodie know. And if you are right about vermouth being careful about what she said, this question.
How was Jodie able to pick up Conan dress as Haibara if she had not Intel that the BO was making their move? She knows that Vermouth called them and said he was on the way over. Jodie lied in saying she was told by the doctor to pick them up because he had car trouble.
that should show that at least in Asaga house there is a bug, the only question is, is it the kind of bug that can hear what is going on around it? Let me add to this. I am sure that as at times Asaga was using a cell phone, that bug would have to be in vermouth phone. And again very few cases before the Ghost ship, we can see the FBI is listening in.
I am getting close to adding proof that Jodie know about Conan being Shinichi. The FBI and Akai was definely listen to Calls that went to Asaga. His phone was Bugged. Now either the FBI is listening to the Bug that the Bo planted, or they planted their own.
First I will show Vermouth listening to Conan talking at Agasa's Place. (Chapter 429 Page 8). The same page shows that Vermouth knows.
Now for an FBI bug. This one is a phone Bug. And that is a panel where Akai is listening in (chapter 422 Page 15). If that bug is set in the room and is not just a tap then the FBI (Akai) can also hear the "private" discussions going on in that room.
As I just showed, we know Akai at least is listening in. Akai comment in an earlier chapter (Chapter 419 Page 18) shows that he thinks that Haibara is Sherry, his comment "It is too alike" when looking at a picture of Haibara. Also a Vermouth/Araide phone bug he is listening to (Chapter 422 Page 5)
Now we come to Jodie. I will show my reasoning why I am sure she knows, but first I might need to lay some background.
Heiji in chapter 343 Page 16 shows us another clue of the truth about. He said "She does not seem like a bad person" suggesting that Jodie is not a BO member and can not be Vermouth. Remember even though Conan is not as sure, that Heiji thoughts are correct. Now in the same case (Chapter 343 Page 18), Jodie mentions Kudo Shinichi, and she has Pictures of both Kudo and Conan without his mask. (So as smart as we know she is, she might have noticed the differences in face features between Conan unmasked and Haibara with a mask acting like Conan). Note she also has a partly covered up photo of Dr. Araide, who she knows as we will learn later is Vermouth.
By the end of Chapter 354 we should know that Akai is Fbi (chapter 354 page 18)
Back to Jodie. Look at Chapter 422 Page 4, Jodie has seen Vermouth picture of sherry and is think of that when she thinks"maybe its...her (unthought but clear) Next we go to Chapter 426 Page 7) Ran start talking about Shinichi without using his name. Jodie comes up with that.
Next page (Chapter 426 Page 8) Jodie suggest that Conan like Shinichi is stubborn, maybe a minor clue, that she knows the truth.
from this you should be able to see bugs planted. I know Akai was listening to Vermoth, I am guessing that he and Jodie as they both work for the FBI would share information
I am also sure by the End of the Ghost ship both Jodie and Akai know all.
As far as Okiya, I still think he is what he is a graduate student and nothing more. But if is possible that the stuff was hidden not just from him , but another possible visit from the BO. We know the Haibara came twice and marked him dead, but like I think with KIR, that information became suspect after Haibara left the BO and they might well check it again. It would be really bad if any old pictures were left behind showing Shinichi in Grade School. That could tip off the BO to where Conan is now.
So maybe you will see why I disagree with you. There are hints all over the place that at least Akai and Jodie know. And if you are right about vermouth being careful about what she said, this question.
How was Jodie able to pick up Conan dress as Haibara if she had not Intel that the BO was making their move? She knows that Vermouth called them and said he was on the way over. Jodie lied in saying she was told by the doctor to pick them up because he had car trouble.
that should show that at least in Asaga house there is a bug, the only question is, is it the kind of bug that can hear what is going on around it? Let me add to this. I am sure that as at times Asaga was using a cell phone, that bug would have to be in vermouth phone. And again very few cases before the Ghost ship, we can see the FBI is listening in.
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The FBI had Agasa's house bugged. Jodie did it when she came over with Araide to treat Haibara. Akai could hear what Agasa was saying to in 41-9 (422) The FBI heard the conversation with Araide on Agasa's end. That's how Jodie knew to intercept.Divin wrote: I am pretty sure we saw Jodie listening to Vermouth's hideout at some point, thus explaining how she kew Vermouth was going to make her move. On the other hand, Vermouth knew they entered her hideout and probably bugged it, so I am guessing that she wanted Jodie there.
Regarding Jodie hearing what went on in Agasa's house I claim: didn't happen. But there I might be wrong, since I didn't look up all the evidence. However I searched for a picture and found it at the beginning of the Haunted Ship Case, where Vermouth is listening to them with headphones on, meaning there is no sound of it in her hideout.
Since I believe Vermouth was aware of the bugs, she wouldn't let Jodie hear any of the truth. Conan, Ai and Agasa didn't just discuss their shrinking in the house, but also any information they have on the BO, which in Sherry's case should still be a mouthful. I can't see Vermouth taking the risk that Jodie gets to hear those information.
And up to now you have carefully avoided to answer a very vital question: why doesn't Conan want Okiya to know anything about Shinichi?
Since we all assume that he is Akai, there should be no problem knowing anything about Shinichi, if he in fact knows that Conan is the afore-mentioned Meitantei. And if Akai doesn't know, Jodie doesn't know either, that's axiomatic ^^.
But you are definitely right on your last point: if they confronted him, it would be smarter to just admit to it and try to reduce information leakage. Because unlike Ran they have the means to prove it.
As for why Conan isn't telling Akai about his identity, he could be merely erring on the side of caution considering that the Org has gotten the better of the FBI a few times, even with Akai's help. That said, Conan would not have put Okiya in Shinichi's house if he wasn't willing to take the risk Okiya would find out about Shinichi's identity. Conan is pretty sure Akai recognizes Haibara as Shiho, so it isn't much of a leap to suspect Conan is like her as well. Okiya probably already knows Conan is Shinichi anyway.The photo albums and things were probably hidden well before Okiya came (not in reaction to Okiya), maybe after the Vermouth arc, because Conan didn't know Okiya would have his house burnt down and Conan didn't have time to hide things before giving Okiya the key.
Okiya being a graduate student does not explain his involvement with the Black Organization (recognizing them talking about them) and the FBI (following them to the dept store, knocking Jodie over to prevent her from following Scar Akai), the "Org scent" Haibara detects (She has never had a false positive), Conan's trust in Okiya let him move in next door, nor how Okiya mysteriously knew that Conan's glasses were tracking glasses and located detective badges. (Conan hasn't used the tracking function at all between Okiya's introduction and the 252 case, and the Detective boys haven't used even the communications function anywhere where Okiya could possibly overhear until the 252 case.) Why would a graduate student bug Agasa's house and then follow the DB/Haibara when potential trouble (Sera) appears?sstimson wrote: As far as Okiya, I still think he is what he is a graduate student and nothing more.
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The house was bugged. That means the FBI hear the exchange at Chapter 429 Page 8. We can see her listening. And you just told me the FBI is listening as well. So the hearer would know as well. There is no reason for either side to think it a lie. That shows the at least Akai at this point learned the truth, since Conan basically said it out right.
Now while it not obvious, as we know Jodie has been keeping very close tabs on Vermouth, and I think it likely that Vermouth's place has also been bugged. Remember Jodie knew before Vermouth started impersonating Dr Araide, that she would. (Chapter 433 Page 5)
Then the next page, Jodie Questions "But is she really that woman in the picture" and
"The Boy is certainly cool, but he is not a 'GUY' but a 'KID', right?" In those question shows she knows the truth, she just wants Vermouth to confirm it. It asking something you know just to hear you are right kind of question.
So from this case I summit two more I know Conan is Shinichi candidates: Akai, and Jodie.
The question of did they tell their boss James Black is at this point uncertain.
Now while it not obvious, as we know Jodie has been keeping very close tabs on Vermouth, and I think it likely that Vermouth's place has also been bugged. Remember Jodie knew before Vermouth started impersonating Dr Araide, that she would. (Chapter 433 Page 5)
Then the next page, Jodie Questions "But is she really that woman in the picture" and
"The Boy is certainly cool, but he is not a 'GUY' but a 'KID', right?" In those question shows she knows the truth, she just wants Vermouth to confirm it. It asking something you know just to hear you are right kind of question.
So from this case I summit two more I know Conan is Shinichi candidates: Akai, and Jodie.
The question of did they tell their boss James Black is at this point uncertain.
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Re: What does the FBI know
How can you be so sure that jodie's question about Conan being a kid not a guy was the type of question that she knew the answer of and just wanted to make sure?
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Re: What does the FBI know
Choice of words. If She was asking if that if would be more like this"The Boy is certainly cool, but how can he a 'GUY'? He's just a 'KID', right?
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