Finally, after over 750 chapters...

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Re: Finally, after over 750 chapters...

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Heh! I really appreciate that you all liked my scenario. I was also interested to learn that it was a scuicide as well.
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I also like that scenario :D

In addition, I too don't think it's cheating the reader to have it be a suicide, especially if there are enough hints for people to make the conclusion. ...Actually, I don't think suicide's the easy way out either. If anything, it almost seems it would be harder, especially with how Gosho writes the suicide cases. He makes it seem like murder...which would kind of be difficult to do successfully.

So far, he's done it, and that seems like an achievement to me  :-\
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doublemoonlight wrote: ^is it sad that I actually loled at this?  :D
Nope.  I did too. :D
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Heh! Thanks!
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Not to mention the story is reminiscent of soap operas! Kind of sad she killed herself, though. And bad timing for that research company. They should have told her personally and debriefed her and stuff, or gave her some post-result counselling or something.
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Does the Stradivarius case count?

Quoting from Volume 46 Chapter 6 page 4

"That is, the truth behind the serial murder cases starting from two years ago . . . (skipping to page 5)
Also, I'm afraid the death of Emi two years ago, and the death of Furito one year ago, should be included. (Skipping to page 14)
During the fight, my father accidentally fell off the stairs and was badly hurt. (skipping to the next page)
Ah, talking about this, when I saw Aunt Emi dying the same way as my father . . ."

there it is talking about an accidentally death that happened because no help was sent for.

Has that case fit?
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^ nope because that was the case in the past not the one Conan and more importantly readers were involved in.
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Re: Finally, after over 750 chapters...

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What about moonlight sonata? wasn't there a suicide too?
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queen misanagi wrote: Not to mention the story is reminiscent of soap operas! Kind of sad she killed herself, though. And bad timing for that research company. They should have told her personally and debriefed her and stuff, or gave her some post-result counselling or something.
I assumed she requested to know as soon as possible.  I also doubt she told them the specifics of her situation.  She requested verification that they were siblings, but didn't mention her intention to marry him.
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This case was predictable, I have to say it. But, at least is a change in the "default" - 3 suspects 1 is the murderer - that we have readed for the past how many files?. And, the murderer's motive was decaying too... I mean, they killed someone beacause of the most stupid things using complicated tricks... It was time for a change, and the suicide with a deep and important motive was a great one.
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Why count the number of chapters sine the last suicide case? o.O
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JareX wrote: What about moonlight sonata? wasn't there a suicide too?
Seiji did commit suicide, but it wasn't the case. It was the conclusion.
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the Moonlight Sonata case is also a special one, for it's the only case where the culprit successfully commited suicide after being found out. His death had a big impact on Conan, who swore to never let another culprit commit suicide before him ever again...
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KainTheVampire wrote: Why count the number of chapters sine the last suicide case? o.O
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I never counted the exact number of chapters... I was just pointing out the scarcity of suicide cases in this series...
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Re: Finally, after over 750 chapters...

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since Gosho's been criticized for lack of originality, a suicide case really brings a change of pace. Since it's been a while, many readers (including me) will disregard suicide option from the very beginning, and makes the ending more surprising.

introduction of new character is really good, especially if it involves with bourbon arc. it's been a while since last new character introduction (okiya)
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