Detective Conan Manga Files 787-789: (Another Kogorou)

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Who did it?

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Conan
7
16%
Ran
0
No votes
Sonoko
0
No votes
Sera
3
7%
Kogorou
1
2%
The old lady
3
7%
The other Kogorou
3
7%
The lady resident
10
22%
The old man resident
11
24%
The young man resident
5
11%
The dead man
1
2%
The granddaughter
0
No votes
The old woman's husband
1
2%
 
Total votes: 45
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MaitreDétective wrote: It's been 200 cases Gosho became lazy
If Gosho's lazy, then what do you use to describe Yoshihiro Togashi ?

Here, have a look at this :

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Gosho's schedule is probably somewhat similar in terms of how much time is spent for each activity.

http://mastersofmanga.com/2010/07/interviewaoyama/
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It’s so hard I cannot sleep for more than three hours a day (laughs).
Based on that, I doubt 'lazy' is the right term here.
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He meant lazy as to write another BO case or interesting case I think. But I don't agree with it. Gosho even went to London to put together an faithful representation of the London case.
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leokiko wrote: He meant lazy as to write another BO case or interesting case I think. But I don't agree with it. Gosho even went to London to put together an faithful representation of the London case.
Perhaps you're right. But I still find it really unfair to say he's lazy. Saying what he writes doesn't suit your taste is fine, since it'a matter of opinion afterall, so is saying that he writes very little BO cases since that's pretty much a fact, but saying he's been 'lazy for 200 cases' is an easy statement which also seems to be false based on the little information we have about the way Gosho (and mangaka in general) work and live.
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Wakarimashita wrote:
leokiko wrote: He meant lazy as to write another BO case or interesting case I think. But I don't agree with it. Gosho even went to London to put together an faithful representation of the London case.
Perhaps you're right. But I still find it really unfair to say he's lazy. Saying what he writes doesn't suit your taste is fine, since it'a matter of opinion afterall, so is saying that he writes very little BO cases since that's pretty much a fact, but saying he's been 'lazy for 200 cases' is an easy statement which also seems to be false based on the little information we have about the way Gosho (and mangaka in general) work and live.
Maybe he's just prone to writer's block. I mean we can't expect Gosho to come up with BO plot whenever the readers want him to; it doesn't work that way.
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Wakarimashita wrote:
leokiko wrote: He meant lazy as to write another BO case or interesting case I think. But I don't agree with it. Gosho even went to London to put together an faithful representation of the London case.
Perhaps you're right. But I still find it really unfair to say he's lazy. Saying what he writes doesn't suit your taste is fine, since it'a matter of opinion afterall, so is saying that he writes very little BO cases since that's pretty much a fact, but saying he's been 'lazy for 200 cases' is an easy statement which also seems to be false based on the little information we have about the way Gosho (and mangaka in general) work and live.
Yes... it doesn't matter what type of case he does, in the end he still worked hard to come out with every single one of them. So lazy is unfair to say, that's true.
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leokiko wrote: He meant lazy as to write another BO case or interesting case I think. But I don't agree with it. Gosho even went to London to put together an faithful representation of the London case.
Perhaps you're right. But I still find it really unfair to say he's lazy. Saying what he writes doesn't suit your taste is fine, since it'a matter of opinion afterall, so is saying that he writes very little BO cases since that's pretty much a fact, but saying he's been 'lazy for 200 cases' is an easy statement which also seems to be false based on the little information we have about the way Gosho (and mangaka in general) work and live.
Maybe he's just prone to writer's block. I mean we can't expect Gosho to come up with BO plot whenever the readers want him to; it doesn't work that way.
That readers DO have an effect on which cases Gosho does. He said it in an interview:"I decide when I feel it's time (laughs). Maybe fan letters have a pretty significant influence. I get stuff like “I want to read about Shinichi and Ran's childhood!â€
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Wakarimashita wrote:
leokiko wrote: He meant lazy as to write another BO case or interesting case I think. But I don't agree with it. Gosho even went to London to put together an faithful representation of the London case.
Perhaps you're right. But I still find it really unfair to say he's lazy. Saying what he writes doesn't suit your taste is fine, since it'a matter of opinion afterall, so is saying that he writes very little BO cases since that's pretty much a fact, but saying he's been 'lazy for 200 cases' is an easy statement which also seems to be false based on the little information we have about the way Gosho (and mangaka in general) work and live.
I was referring to lazy in the sense that he opted out of having other characters suspicious of Conan this particular case when the set up was perfect for it.
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Rather than saying Gosho is lazy, I'd say I'm lazy... not having enough motivation... :P lol
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Wakarimashita wrote:
leokiko wrote: He meant lazy as to write another BO case or interesting case I think. But I don't agree with it. Gosho even went to London to put together an faithful representation of the London case.
Perhaps you're right. But I still find it really unfair to say he's lazy. Saying what he writes doesn't suit your taste is fine, since it'a matter of opinion afterall, so is saying that he writes very little BO cases since that's pretty much a fact, but saying he's been 'lazy for 200 cases' is an easy statement which also seems to be false based on the little information we have about the way Gosho (and mangaka in general) work and live.


What I meant by that, is not that he isn't working a lot, but that compared to early cases, the recent ones aren't as astute and ingenious.
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ssjup81 wrote: Hm, this case was interesting, but I want to know why they didn't have Mouri himself get suspicious.  You know, maybe have Ran mention, "Good thing Conan-kun called you, dad.  Because of you, the case was solved."  He'd be like, "Eh?"

Personally, I felt that Gosho was a bit lazy.  The set up for this case would've been perfect for the others to get suspicious of Conan.  I was really surprised that Takagi or Satou wasn't.
Well Conan only told the impostor that the real Kogorou solved the case, right? Then he told Ran he asked Shinichi about the case and the impostor.
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ssjup81 wrote:
Wakarimashita wrote:
leokiko wrote: He meant lazy as to write another BO case or interesting case I think. But I don't agree with it. Gosho even went to London to put together an faithful representation of the London case.
Perhaps you're right. But I still find it really unfair to say he's lazy. Saying what he writes doesn't suit your taste is fine, since it'a matter of opinion afterall, so is saying that he writes very little BO cases since that's pretty much a fact, but saying he's been 'lazy for 200 cases' is an easy statement which also seems to be false based on the little information we have about the way Gosho (and mangaka in general) work and live.
I was referring to lazy in the sense that he opted out of having other characters suspicious of Conan this particular case when the set up was perfect for it.
Except how do you know it's lazy?  Gosho sets stuff up waaaaayyyy in advance most of the time.  Just because Ran wasn't instantly suspicious doesn't mean she won't remember and it'll add to her suspicions later.  As for Takagi, he might be purposely not figuring out who Conan really is because he thinks (correctly) that he'll be over his head. 
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Wakarimashita wrote:
MaitreDétective wrote: It's been 200 cases Gosho became lazy
If Gosho's lazy, then what do you use to describe Yoshihiro Togashi ?

Here, have a look at this :

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Gosho's schedule is probably somewhat similar in terms of how much time is spent for each activity.

http://mastersofmanga.com/2010/07/interviewaoyama/
that's a waaaay too full packed sched :o
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I remember that graph, or something like it, turning up in a volume of Yuu Yuu Hakusho. Put my friend right off being a mangaka.
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So why was Ran thinking about a piano?
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