Do u think Shinichi will tell Ran the truth of Conan?

[Quiet Lurker]

Actually Ran probably already figured out that Shinichi is Conan, she has doubts about it. (She's just waiting for undeniable proof.) In all likelihood, she would probably obtain this before Conan brings down the Organization.
If Conan ever manages destroy the Organization, he has full intention of telling Ran the truth (Vol 4 File 7) but not beforehand.

Unfortunately for all you romantics out there, when Ran learns of the truth (either by Conan telling her for by figuring it out herself) most likely she would dump Shinichi, ESPECIALLY if there is not antidote for APTX-4869:
- Ran has her mother's temper, which means that there is a high likelihood she would dump Shinichi over a misunderstanding. (like how Eri divorced Kogoro)
- Ran is DEFINITELY going to be unhappy when she finds out that Conan has been regularly tranquilizing the two closest people to her (Kogoro and Sonoko) in order to use them to solve his cases.
- Conan is indirectly the reason why her family is not back together. By convincing Kogoro that he is a "great detective" with the Sleeping Kogoro setup, Conan has caused Kogoro to become arrogant (i.e. bragging to other women about his great "detective skills") which invariably negatively affect Kogoro's relationship with Eri. (Vol 17 File 5)
- Conan hiding the truth definitely hurts Ran. If she finds out the truth, she would believe that he is being insensitive to her feelings. (i.e. "How could you deceive me for so long" or "What do you mean you didn't know doing this would hurt my feelings")
- If Conan cannot change back, there is no reason for them to continue their relationship.

If Ran finds out Conan's identity before he destroys the Black Organization, it would pretty much spell the end for their relationship.

[Rellik]

ooohhh, breaking up, neva thought of tat one, i don't want it to happen but that doesn't mean it definitely won't.

ur reasonin r very gd, but i'd say even if they break up, they'd get back together in the end, i mean, breaking up forever seems a bit too far with just those reasons?
And besides, Shinichi has a thing with girls even if his not as much of a charmer as Kid 

[mitsuhiko2]

Unfortunately for all you romantics out there, when Ran learns of the truth (either by Conan telling her for by figuring it out herself) most likely she would dump Shinichi, ESPECIALLY if there is not antidote for APTX-4869:

If there's no antidote(which there is) Conan wouldn't tell Ran.

- Ran has her mother's temper, which means that there is a high likelihood she would dump Shinichi over a misunderstanding. (like how Eri divorced Kogoro)

Kogoro deserved it. He's a womanizer. Shinichi has eyes for nothing except cases, which is why Ran loves him.

- Ran is DEFINITELY going to be unhappy when she finds out that Conan has been regularly tranquilizing the two closest people to her (Kogoro and Sonoko) in order to use them to solve his cases.

She'll think it served him right. And she'll think it's funny to tease Sonoko about it. And Sonoko will tease Shinichi about it if she finds out.

- Conan is indirectly the reason why her family is not back together. By convincing Kogoro that he is a "great detective" with the Sleeping Kogoro setup, Conan has caused Kogoro to become arrogant (i.e. bragging to other women about his great "detective skills") which invariably negatively affect Kogoro's relationship with Eri. (Vol 17 File 5)

And he didn't before then?

- Conan hiding the truth definitely hurts Ran. If she finds out the truth, she would believe that he is being insensitive to her feelings. (i.e. "How could you deceive me for so long" or "What do you mean you didn't know doing this would hurt my feelings")

She already thinks that because he's stayed away for so long, but she still wants him to come back.

[x64_02]

I think Ran will figure it out again and this time have proof.  When she gets mad and storms to confront Conan, he does something heroic/selfless that puts him out of the picture for a while and makes Ran realize how much he loves her.  Somehow it will become obvious that Conan was protecting her and the whole aggressive Ran phase can play out so that by the time Conan comes back into the picture, Ran will pretend not to know about his identity.  This could go on for a long time, or if there is outcry from the fans, Conan could do something slightly pervy like try to take a bath with Ran and as he gets into the tub, she slaps him and shouts, "Shinichi!" thus ending any delusions Conan had about the state of his deception.

[Rellik]

This could go on for a long time, or if there is outcry from the fans, Conan could do something slightly pervy like try to take a bath with Ran and as he gets into the tub, she slaps him and shouts, "Shinichi!" thus ending any delusions Conan had about the state of his deception.

i'd lose all respect to Conan if that happens lol

[Aluecard]

that be so funny tho if she dont say a thing 
lol if that ever hapens  tho   like in i think eposde 28 wen he is force by her to take a bath  weth her

By aluecard at 2008-07-11


jaja just find it funy if its hapens  1 more time that make 2
(Rellik) it did ardy 1 time  so far  did you know¿ this

[battleforged]

Omfg no ones is paying attention to what i have said. Quiet Lurker, she had doubts that Conan was Shinici but that was until she saw Shinichi and Conan in the same room(which Haibara was dreesed up as Conan. You can verify this in episode 191) so after seeing that she confirmed that Conan was Conan and Shinichi was Shinichi. I don't know if Conan could possibly hold on much longer not telling her, as he really wanted but that once he was going to, Haibara stopped him in doing so. There are two possibilities into this faction. He could either tell her as Conan, as he can't hold it in much longer or else he could wait until he turns back to Shinichi again and then he would tell her. This faction will end something like this.

You said that when Ran finds out the truth she would dump him. This can never happen as they were MEANT for each other. She will DEFINITELY take it seriously, that i'm sure off, but then things will work out. Btw there DEFINITELY is an antidote as i had explained in my last post(do you even read what other people write? i don't think so cause if you did you would know what i had written about the antidote in my last post).

Don't you know anything Quiet Lurker ? The reason why Eri divorced Mouri was because he was a "Womanizer"(like someone has described him), always flirting with women, teasing them and what so ever, but he used to do these things before Mouri became a Famous Detective and that he was all the time boasting about it, thanks to Conan. If Mouri was all the time bragging it wasn't Conan's fault. Let me give you an example. If i find you a girlfriend i will be successful right ?(take now the same case that Conan used the sleeping Kogoro, that it helped him to be successful in his work). Although i found you a girlfriend you don't need to brag about it now do you ?(now this is the same. Although Conan helped him to become famous he didn't need to brag about it did he ?). Therefore i have stated and proved that it was DEFINITELY not Conan's fault


P.S)Aluecard that would be episode 27 what you were referring to keep in touch m8

[Aluecard]

ya now that you tell me it is  27 thanks for correcting me  XD 

[Rellik]

Everything is possible, u can't say she definitely won't dump him. If Gosho calls for it, Shinichi could even have a final battle with the organisation on the moon.

[mitsuhiko2]

The point is, Gosho's making this manga for the fans, not himself, so he's not going to want to turn them all off at the end and get them mad at him.

[battleforged]

Rellik, you can try hard as much as you want but you won't manage to find a way out of this, so just give in. There's too much evidence in what i said is right and that there is a very high probability that it will happen. Ran loves Shinichi SOOOOOOOO much and therefore she won't dump him as he means the world to her. Even if she wants to dump him, she just don't have the heart to do so. Having a final battle with the organization on the moon ? :S Come on man get real. If you don't know what you're going to say, just don't say anything at all, instead of saying something which will sound really stupid.

[sdf1macross]

She'll be happy to know, but I really want to know how is she gonna handle the fact that they have bathed together without her knowing that Conan was Shinichi, she is gonna be SOOO mad 

[Rellik]

I'm not rely tryin since i'm not the one typing long paragraphs. And i know what i'm saying.

Even if u show me a mountain of evidence saying Ran won't dump Shinichi, that doesn't mean the chances of Ran actually dumping Shinichi goes to 0% unless one of the evidence includes Gosho saying that won't happen.

I'm saying that even if the chances of Ran dumping Shinichi is like 0.01%, it is still called a possiblity, that's all i'm saying, i'm not arguing with u because i don't want this to happen myself, i'm just accepting the facts that there is a small (tiny) chance Ran is going to dump Shinichi.

Now just calm down.

[Quiet Lurker]

Wow, I know that Conan x Ran fans would get upset, but I didn't realize that the reaction would be so... discordial.

Omfg no ones is paying attention to what i have said. Quiet Lurker, she had doubts that Conan was Shinici but that was until she saw Shinichi and Conan in the same room(which Haibara was dreesed up as Conan. You can verify this in episode 191) so after seeing that she confirmed that Conan was Conan and Shinichi was Shinichi. I don't know if Conan could possibly hold on much longer not telling her, as he really wanted but that once he was going to, Haibara stopped him in doing so. There are two possibilities into this faction. He could either tell her as Conan, as he can't hold it in much longer or else he could wait until he turns back to Shinichi again and then he would tell her. This faction will end something like this.

Ran DID suspect Conan's identity even after the occasion you mentioned during which Conan and Shinichi appearing together. See Vol 47, File 2 or Episode 399 in the anime.

Conan "got away" with it by giving Ran his cellphone number, but it places another piece of the puzzle in play.
This act nearly revealed the truth when Ran attempted to call him during the Appearing Magic Case (Vol 47, File 9). If Hattori had not covered for him, Ran would have definite proof of his identity.
Ran would definitely figure it out eventually (she has already came up with the conclusion 4 times so far).
After all: "When you have eliminated all which is impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth."

You said that when Ran finds out the truth she would dump him. This can never happen as they were MEANT for each other. She will DEFINITELY take it seriously, that i'm sure off, but then things will work out. Btw there DEFINITELY is an antidote as i had explained in my last post(do you even read what other people write? i don't think so cause if you did you would know what i had written about the antidote in my last post).

The "antidote" is not permanent, although the effect may recover with time, eventually Conan will not be able to change back.
Case and point:
- After drinking a small amount of Chinese vodka, Conan was able to return to Shinichi long enough to solve a case. (Vol 10 File 5)
- The effect decreased significantly after the first exposure, to the extent that several times the original quantity no longer have any effect. (Vol 10 File 8)
The "antidote" was created from ingredients extracted from Chinese vodka. (Vol 26 File 8) Hence the antidote cannot be permanent due since it is counteracted by antibodies in the body, thus the effect will eventually get weaker.

If Conan brings down the Black Organization, he has full intention of telling Ran the truth regardless of whether he is able to change back. (Vol 4 File 7 and Vol 37 File 7)
As for Ran's reaction should Conan turn out to be Shinichi, even she doesn't know. (Vol 47 File 4)

Given that the best case scenario would be Conan destroying the Black Organization and finally telling Ran the truth, Ran discovering the truth herself would result in less than optimal conditions since Conan cannot reveal the true nature of his "ongoing investigation" otherwise Ran would become entangled with the Black Organization. The situation can get messy very quickly.

Don't you know anything Quiet Lurker ? The reason why Eri divorced Mouri was because he was a "Womanizer"(like someone has described him), always flirting with women, teasing them and what so ever, but he used to do these things before Mouri became a Famous Detective and that he was all the time boasting about it, thanks to Conan. If Mouri was all the time bragging it wasn't Conan's fault. Let me give you an example. If i find you a girlfriend i will be successful right ?(take now the same case that Conan used the sleeping Kogoro, that it helped him to be successful in his work). Although i found you a girlfriend you don't need to brag about it now do you ?(now this is the same. Although Conan helped him to become famous he didn't need to brag about it did he ?). Therefore i have stated and proved that it was DEFINITELY not Conan's fault

Don't be abusive, attacking other people's character does not make your arguments any more valid.

As for your comment: Did Eri leave Kogoro because he is a womanizer or did Kogoro become a womanizer because Eri left him?
According to Eri's hairdresser's comments, it seems that Kogoro and Eri broke up because of a singular incident: "Your quarrel with him is groundless." (Vol 59 File 4)
Supposedly, one of the movies goes into Kogoro and Eri breakup in greater detail, but I cannot comment on it without watching first. Supposedly the breakup is not entirely Kogoro's fault, which makes it even more tragic.

As for the incidents in which Conan using the Sleeping Kogoro setup has ruined Eri and Kogoro's chance of getting back together:
- Vol 17 File 4-5, Kogoro recovered Eri's wedding ring and intended to return it to her, but Conan used Kogoro to solve a case which resulted in a couple of nurses interupt an otherwise opportune "moment."
- Vol 59 File 4, Conan knocking out Kogoro has caused him to miss Hasaka's comments on how Eri still cared for him.

Conan did not create Sleeping Kogoro so Kogoro could become a successful detective, he did so because eventually a case may lead him to the Black Organization (Vol 1 File 2), not exactly a selfless reason.
Since he did so without permission, Ran CAN rightfully blame him for ruining her efforts in bringing her parents back together. (Both of the cited cases are in fact Ran's "Parent Traps")

[GinRei]

As for your comment: Did Eri leave Kogoro because he is a womanizer or did Kogoro become a womanizer because Eri left him?
According to Eri's hairdresser's comments, it seems that Kogoro and Eri broke up because of a singular incident: "Your quarrel with him is groundless." (Vol 59 File 4)
Supposedly, one of the movies goes into Kogoro and Eri breakup in greater detail, but I cannot comment on it without watching first. Supposedly the breakup is not entirely Kogoro's fault, which makes it even more tragic.

Second movie says the reason they split was because her cooking is so horrendous that he refuses to eat it.  This being right after he shot her in the leg as seen earlier in the movie, and she made him dinner despite the pain.  Sad part is, his actual words were "Fool, if you have time to make things like this, go and sleep!", which is saying more about him being worried for her recovery.