Detective Conan Manga Files 781-786: (Eye for an Eye)

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Who dunnit?

Poll runs till December 29th, 2052, 10:51 am

Ran
3
3%
Heiji
2
2%
Kogorou
0
No votes
Sera
1
1%
Wakamatsu Kouhei (company president)
2
2%
Conan
3
3%
Kazuha
3
3%
Wakamatsu Serika (the wife)
19
16%
Wakamatsu Ikurou (the son)
9
8%
Shiina Masashige (senior managing director)
10
8%
Fujinami Sumio (chief designer)
8
7%
Satake Yoshimi (secretary)
19
16%
Yonehara Sakurako (housekeeper)
27
23%
Someone else
1
1%
Takagi
2
2%
Megure
1
1%
CSI Gosho
8
7%
 
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Agreed lol the wife is gonna be the next victim!
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Since we still have 5 suspects, Gosho could indeed probably kill the wife.
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The wife is gonna die, most definitely. Between the very obvious "hey you can borrow my eye drops!" and "here, borrow my pen!" it's like he's setting it up to show us potential suspects (likely it'll be neither of those two, since they're the obvious ones).

As for the son's killer... not sure yet. Highly suspicious of the wife, but if she's slated to die next... it's possible someone else killed the son and will kill her. (Or the son killed the husband, the wife killed the son and someone else kills the wife. That would be interesting. :P)

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just read file 783
it is certain that next victim is the wife. Moreover son is the first murderer ,and it is quite clear that murderer#2 is the wife
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PhoenixTears wrote: The wife is gonna die, most definitely.
^This
PhoenixTears wrote: Or the son killed the husband, the wife killed the son and someone else kills the wife. That would be interesting. :P
^This
PhoenixTears wrote: Also: very excited to see Yamato, Uehara and Koumei!  ;D
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Now most of you thinks the wife is not real curprit. There have 2 situations when there is 3 or more suspects in a case:

1) Usually the least chance for the suspect to commit crime turned out to be real curprit.
2) Usually when one of the suspects laughed when someone is dead is not the real curprit

Which side are you choose?

Look like entering the wife's room next time, they think she is asleep, when trying to wake her up, she is found dead, just like Diplomat Murder Case.
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sonoci wrote:
PhoenixTears wrote: The wife is gonna die, most definitely.
^This
PhoenixTears wrote: Or the son killed the husband, the wife killed the son and someone else kills the wife. That would be interesting. :P
^This
PhoenixTears wrote: Also: very excited to see Yamato, Uehara and Koumei!  ;D
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This story is getting interesting.. this will likely end after 6 files..

So obvious that the wife is next in line to be killed..
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Do they always need to repeat what they hear by the phone?
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i agree that the wife/mother might die but when she did that evil laugh i'm thinking she might be the killer since the least likely is usually the one.
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BO Member: Pina Colada wrote: i agree that the wife/mother might die but when she did that evil laugh i'm thinking she might be the killer since the least likely is usually the one.
I agree with that. She got a lot of things from other people, so she might die in next chapter, but her laugh is a proof that she killed the son at least. I remember there were a few cases where the culprit laughed or smiled after killing somebody when he/she thought that he/she was safe and nobody would discover the truth. I don't see the point of laughing if she's simple happy that her husband and stepson were killed. I mean, if she's innocent she should watch out, right?

My theory (version 1.1):
1) The wife didn't kill her husband, BUT maybe she manipulated the son to kill his father. I think she told the son that he would get the company, if he killed his father. The son was stupid, so he bought it and killed the father with his stepmother's help who covered him. Proofs that she took part in murder:
- she lied about tiles - that nobody will see them anymore, but actually there's a bathroom with these tiles --> she wanted to cover the truth about optical illusions
- she told the maid to use normal phone to call police - she wanted to have time to wash the letters left by victim
- when the son said to her that he will become the president, she simply agreed with him, but after his death she said it was nonsense --> proof that the stepmother gave him kind of promise
- quarrel between father and son, but it turned out that this was stepmother's mistake in calculation - I bet she did it in purpose, so somebody would see it and tell police later and negative relations between father and son would grow

2) Creepy scene at house in Osaka - there's no way that it was prepared by the son, nor the stepmother. I've a feeling that not the culprit wrote a letter to Heiji, but a person who discovered the truth about the murder and wanted to show some hints to great detective - hints about optical illusions and bloody letters on the floor. Who did that? Dunno. Maybe it was a person who would kill the wife??

3) The son was killed - we're sure that there was nothing about the cake, so how come he got poisoned? Simple - on the picture he ate the cake and THEN he licked his thumb. Probably he had a poison on his hand. How? Dunno, cause we don't know what he did before he met Conan and others.

4) Anybody noticed that the housekeeper is really helpful here? Isn't it suspicious? I wonder if she's the person who discover the truth and made creepy scene in Osaka or if she's Kaito Kid or if she's the bad one who will kill the wife. As I saw there were a lot of cups with black tea made by housekeeper...

Till now there are all my thoughts about the case. Hope we will get something more in next chapter, cause it's even more interesting...
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I think the culprit who killed the son used the Jastrow Illusion which causes two identical figures/shapes to appear to be different sizes....it fits in with the disappearing dying message being part of an optical illusion as well.
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I think Chekhov already pointed that out on DCW, but anyway, the cakes slices are laid out in the right way for it, though it looks like it was the housekeeper who put the slices in that position. (You can see it in the background of the bottom right panel of page 15). But... that's just confusing 'cause she was being very helpful with the first case, also, I've no idea for what the motive would be and she's too cute to be the culprit of any of the murders. And this doesn't explain the wife's random laughing either.
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