Fake name? Akai Shuichi or Sera Masumi

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Yeah, I think that Sera being Akai's sister is a lot more likely than being his daughter, I mean, Akai's about 27 or somewhere close to it and Sera's 16 or 17 if she's in Ran's year at school.
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Yeah, I doubt Akai was a father at age 10.


Though it would certainly be an interesting twist.
Besides, didn't Gosho say she was someone's sister?  That would me Akai had two children. :-X
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also, if she was Akai's daughter, then he was involved with a third woman who neither Jodie or Akemi knew about... scandalous. :O
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Yeah, I can't see Jodie being too happy about that.
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Akonyl wrote: also, if she was Akai's daughter, then he was involved with a third woman who neither Jodie or Akemi knew about... scandalous. :O
Obviously it was Vermouth, who shrunk to Akai's age at the time (10) and got pregnant
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snuzzle wrote: Really, you think sister? I thought daughter. It would be pretty comforting to Jodie, I think, to have someone around who is Shuu's actual flesh and blood. But who knows? I think they're definitely related.

As regards to James' comment:
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There's a reason Gosho used those words. It wasn't incidental. Even though no doubt James was referring to his own eyes, I think Gosho was trying to steer us, the readers, to look at Sera's eyes. When we finally figure out who Sera is, all the hints and breadcrumbs dropped along the way will be obvious. I think this was supposed to be one of those clues, and a pretty heavy handed one at that. Are we close to finding out the truth?


Regardless of who she really is, James definitely knows. I think we can all agree on that.

And the name of the newest file... hmmm....
Actually this was the message I was trying to convey with this quote:
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Look at the last few pages of the most recent manga chapter release: chapter 780, page 14 to be more specific.  James Black-- "It took a lot of work to cultivate such eyes, you know..." So even a character in Detective Conan has pointed out that there is something special about Sera's eyes just as someone has said something about Shuuichi's eyes. It may not have been the same thing but it still points out the fact that the eyes are very unique and places focus on them. As for the cheekbones it may just be that the eyes might have been a better indicator of their similarity than the cheekbones. It may just be that both the similar eyes and cheekbones together might have made Sera look really unattractive.


But I wound up not wording things correctly and what I said gave the wrong message.  :(
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lol. Somehow Akai always struck me as being young thirties, not late twenties, so it made sense in my head. But I agree that sister is far more likely.
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Commi-Ninja wrote: Yeah, I can't see Jodie being too happy about that.
She is okay with it because the two of them are in an open relationship :P :D
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Eyes in Gosho's universe are like genetic proof! =p

I definitely tend to believe she's his sister.
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I would love to see sera turn out as akai's daughter!

I would just Love it! :D
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After I read the manga I did thouth that they are siblings..
Its true that the eyes are simmilar..

Well.. about fake names used by Rena && Akai
Mizunashi Rena = 007 .. thats what akai said
but no one said anything about the meaning of Moroboshi Dai
I'm not sure myself .. but

moro means Vulnerable , Fragile
boshi means hat or star .. of thumb

So Moroboshi would mean Fragile Star (or Fragile Hat)

dai means large , big ..

the conclusion ... ill let you do that :))
It might be a coincidence though .. and besides I might be wrong with my translation .........................................
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dumytru wrote: After I read the manga I did thouth that they are siblings..
Its true that the eyes are simmilar..

Well.. about fake names used by Rena && Akai
Mizunashi Rena = 007 .. thats what akai said
but no one said anything about the meaning of Moroboshi Dai
It has already been explained.

I expect Sera Masumi is going to be the fake name. (It was in the MSG anime.) I would like to add the caveat that Sera Masumi may be a witness protection name and thus not something Sera came up with herself. Since witness protection programs actually encourage the people to keep the same name initials to aid in remembering the new name, although the last name is different, Sera Masumi may be Akai M-something. (Any guesses?) Akai Shuuichi may be fake as well (a double fake), but I doubt it somewhat because Char's real name Casval Rem Deikun was already used in the formation of Akai's fake Black Org name, Moroboshi Dai, and in Okiya Subaru as well.
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Is that so? (Regarding the witness protection program). Although I suppose that is true for Jodie, in some ways. There seems to be some inconsistency as to whether Jodie actually accepted the witness protection program or not--likely not. She likely was just adopted, thus going by Jodie Saintemillion and Jodie Starling.

Indeed it would be easier for Sera Masumi to be the fake name.

It's interesting, though, how Sera's name seems to be setting her up to be a hero, rather than a villain. Though that's unconfirmed.
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Arisana wrote: It's interesting, though, how Sera's name seems to be setting her up to be a hero, rather than a villain. Though that's unconfirmed.
Akai (Char Aznable) and Camel (Lieutenant Dren) were both pure antagonists in the original Mobile Suit Gundam. Sayla Mass (Sera Masumi) was a pure protagonist. I don't think this means Sera is going to be bad though, because she is sure not being set up that way. That said, Bourbon should get named after Amuro Ray, the main protagonist, because it would be fitting considering the rivalry between him and Char (Akai).
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