[Files 775-777] Target on Tape

[AICHAN]

[quote="Conan 48:69"]
File 777 Super-long spoilers

Spoiler:

コナン 皆ã

[veganica]

Spoiler: translation: super-long spoilers

コナン 皆ã

[red.orchid]

Funny. Is karan and Chekhov MacGuffin one and the same person? Because what karan has just said is exactly (word by word) what Chekhov MacGuffin quoted and replied me the other day at DCW. Brilliant thought as ever.
Thanks for the long Spoiler. This is the longest Spoiler I have ever seen.

[red.orchid]

Spoiler:

"the earprint which comes from the ear's shape

it's one of its kind for every human."

This amused me, never heard about earprints before. Do they actually work?


So the middle-aged couple are the kidnappers for real. And the rug is the target.

[leokiko]

Spoiler:

So, nothing plot related again except for a 1 page Sera appearence? Thank you(FUUUUUUUUUUU-) Gosho, really.

[ssjup81]

Well, nice to know that I figured out who the culprits were. Back in my other post, I mentioned,

Spoiler:

that it was the older couple because they had the magnifying glass, and while pretending to examine the vase, were actually examining the rug.

[Dus]

As expected by Chekhov, this is probably the only explanation for staging a kidnapping that makes sense. It's still rather an absurd plan, since they would still become suspicious (as they quickly did). And since Agasa didn't know the carpet's value, he wouldn't have noticed if it had been exchanged for one of inferior quality in his absence.

[AICHAN]

thanks for translating the spoiler...
well the only interesting part is when Sera appeared...I thought Okiya would appear also...
congrats for the people who solved the case...I admire you^^

[Kor]

Yeah, it's pretty complicated. About the only way I can make it make sense is to assume the criminals are one of the pairs of appraisers who wanted to steal one of Agasa's items (the rug). The problem with just going in, stunning Agasa, and taking it is that suspicion will naturally first fall on the appraisers who visited Agasa. Therefore, the pair had to come up with some other plan to try to steal the rug without Agasa realizing it, and make it look like random, unknown people were the culprits to avoid placing suspicion on themselves. Not wanting to actually kill anyone, they came up with this strange plan involving a desperate lost cat search in order to take the genuine rug and plant a fake rug so nobody will realize that the goal all along was the rug. If they just took the rug and Ayumi, then dumped Ayumi without the rug, it would be easier to realize that the cat thing was just some excuse they made up.

Regarding which pair are the culprits, I think the middle aged couple are the baddies.
If Agasa is going to talk to anyone about his schedule, kids, and stuff, this topic would be most natural for a middle aged couple. The young girls might find it weird and the father son team made Agasa angry so pleasantries are unlikely.
In terms of their investigation methods, the middle aged couple not touching the pot is weird because makers marks are often placed on the bottom. The girl pair didn't seem very professional, like they didn't know what they were doing. The father son team did seem to know what they were doing though they didn't bring a magnifying glass, but they didn't accept Agasa's offer to buy the rug and the vase at 50000 yen (~$615 USD). I don't think the culprits would bother to stage a kidnapping for a rug worth less than that.
Finally the middle aged couple also suggested that Agasa take the vase to a real appraiser which would get him out of the house, but also not show it to anyone else, perhaps because they are worried someone might mention the rug. The way the father son team reacted to Agasa's offer, I bet they knew the value of the carpet, but they walked out on it. They also joked about how "people without an eye for these things are sad", which would most certainly goad Agasa into trying harder to get a good evaluation, not the reaction thieves would want. The girl duo didn't mention the rug at all.

If you are going to post someone else's theory, the least you could do is credit them for that 
http://www.detectiveconanworld.com/foru ... __p__60515

[KaitoGirl]

Amazing...

[1Kaito]

Yeah, it's pretty complicated. About the only way I can make it make sense is to assume the criminals are one of the pairs of appraisers who wanted to steal one of Agasa's items (the rug). The problem with just going in, stunning Agasa, and taking it is that suspicion will naturally first fall on the appraisers who visited Agasa. Therefore, the pair had to come up with some other plan to try to steal the rug without Agasa realizing it, and make it look like random, unknown people were the culprits to avoid placing suspicion on themselves. Not wanting to actually kill anyone, they came up with this strange plan involving a desperate lost cat search in order to take the genuine rug and plant a fake rug so nobody will realize that the goal all along was the rug. If they just took the rug and Ayumi, then dumped Ayumi without the rug, it would be easier to realize that the cat thing was just some excuse they made up.

Regarding which pair are the culprits, I think the middle aged couple are the baddies.
If Agasa is going to talk to anyone about his schedule, kids, and stuff, this topic would be most natural for a middle aged couple. The young girls might find it weird and the father son team made Agasa angry so pleasantries are unlikely.
In terms of their investigation methods, the middle aged couple not touching the pot is weird because makers marks are often placed on the bottom. The girl pair didn't seem very professional, like they didn't know what they were doing. The father son team did seem to know what they were doing though they didn't bring a magnifying glass, but they didn't accept Agasa's offer to buy the rug and the vase at 50000 yen (~$615 USD). I don't think the culprits would bother to stage a kidnapping for a rug worth less than that.
Finally the middle aged couple also suggested that Agasa take the vase to a real appraiser which would get him out of the house, but also not show it to anyone else, perhaps because they are worried someone might mention the rug. The way the father son team reacted to Agasa's offer, I bet they knew the value of the carpet, but they walked out on it. They also joked about how "people without an eye for these things are sad", which would most certainly goad Agasa into trying harder to get a good evaluation, not the reaction thieves would want. The girl duo didn't mention the rug at all.

If you are going to post someone else's theory, the least you could do is credit them for that  >:(
http://www.detectiveconanworld.com/foru ... __p__60515

Spoiler:

Isn't this your real theory  ::) -->

Spoiler:

watching the second part 776 file

i conclude to this decision

that the aim of kidnapping was neither to challenge or target ayumi or agasa or haibara but its related to person who is from a rich family i think this going to be a interestig case and this time too sera appeared

whats up with sera????????

i think she knows somethings fishy with the shinichi villa

OMG! wats okiya doing in shinchi house and wats the aim of those persons

the case isn't so straight forward as it seems

also why the kidnappers took care of ayumi and then why did they change their voice using helium gas

\actually they helped ayumi and also disguised as kid does always wile robbing

BUT i think the aim is there conan is the actual target this time but its not the BO for sure as conan says

also ran's mother has somthing to do with it

and come to think of it

sera with pace she is travelling to fnd the true identity (thats wat i think is sear's aim) as i doubt if she is doubting conan to be as shinichi kudo

all question to be answered in the nest file 777

wait for that file and wats going in the mind of sera

Attributed quote to original author - Abs.

[shihokudo]

haha YES!!
a few friends suspected that they switched the rugs, its probably true...
Why is Sera in it then?

[xpon]

Spoiler:

Sera in camisole ?

[KaitoGirl]

what is a camisole?

[GinRei]

Google it.